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In order for that to work teams will have to start out rebounding us. Those missed 3s might as well be post entry passes given how many of those rebounds let to outbacks and trips to the free throw line.
Last night in the broadcast, either Eric or Rebecca mentioned that, in re South Carolina, someone has coined a term something like shot-pass. Meaning that to get the ball inside, they might’s well shoot it as pass it

It’s all tongue-in-cheek, of course, but it’s only funny if there’s a grain (in this case, more like a chunk) of truth in it.
 
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I think MD will be better, but right NOW they seem to be experiencing some of what ails TN. Trying to get all those new pieces to gel. Meyers was Myers. The rest seemed unsure of their roles in the offense. Some just looked scared. Their guards had some nice and surprising dribble drives, but no one cut to take a pass. Lot of standing around at or near 3-point land. And Miller was out so that made MD easier to defend. Despite the loss, I did think they exposed a chink in SC's armor...push the tempo and don't allow them to set up on defense. Gia Cooke kept pushing it at them, but she needs to finish better. But she's just a freshman. And ZONE is definitely the way to play SC who was 28% from 3. Having said that, Stanford has the pieces to actually play SC man to man and mix up defenses. An advantage in that SC has essentially a freshman starting at PG.

MD shot 30% for the game and scored 55 points though.

I'm not sure how big an opening that really was. Though 7 point margin in second half was probably a pretty good outcome down Miller.

But I think they mostly tired themselves out with the pressure..

South Carolina did the turn the ball over a lot but it wasn't really a result of full court pressure. Mostly it was execution and decision making in the half court against zone.

Maryland played really hard and has talent and some athletes. Im sure they will be a factor in the BiG
 
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SC's defense and size will simply overwhelm most teams. The are so long and athletic at every position. Offense was painful at times with the ball just floating around the perimeter looking for an entry pass while all of Maryland was clobbering Boston inside. I'm no basketball expert, but wouldn't it make sense for Beal/Johnson/Fletcher to simply take 1-2 dribbles and get to about 15 feet and either dribble into an open midrange, or draw a defender and create more space for Boston inside? Or kick it out to a shooter so they can catch in rhythm? The redundancy of throwing it around the perimeter rarely seemed to work, though Beale/Cooke were able to knock down looks outside. Johnson didn't play well but I'm excited to watch her play this year. She looks extremely long/athletic. Cardoso played great, Boston was Boston.

Maryland put up a valiant effort through the first half but fell apart in the 3rd. They're just not nearly as talented without Miller out there and are a completely different team than they've been the past few years. Briggs was very underwhelming after a lot of excitement about her coming this year. Meyer was quite good in the first but tailed off in the second half. She didn't get enough helped. I liked the aggressiveness of freshman Cooke. I still think they could be a Big Ten title contender if Miller returns and Briggs steps up.
 
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I really thought South Carolina looked terrible last night? Maryland ran out of steam with some injuries midway through the third quarter but it was a close game up until that point with their best player on the bench.

SC guard play is atrocious and they struggle to get the ball inside outside of missed shots. I don’t know how this is the best team in the country and if it is then it’s a very down year for WCBB. Yikes.
 
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I think Stanford gets overlooked in this area. With players like Belibi, Iriafen, Pretchel (sic?), they have players who are not afraid of contact. Betts could be a lot more physical than some expect even as a freshman. There's a reason she was a starter for the U19 squad when she was the youngest player on the roster. Combine this with their ability to shoot outside, being physical and outrebounding may not be enough.

Seeing both Beal and Cooke shot 3s last night was nice to see. If this continues, it could add another wrinkle to how South Carolina's offense works. This is the type of chess match I love to see in college basketball.
I just can't picture Stanford taking on any contact. They are more of a finesse team.
 
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I really thought South Carolina looked terrible last night? Maryland ran out of steam with some injuries midway through the third quarter but it was a close game up until that point with their best player on the bench.

SC guard play is atrocious and they struggle to get the ball inside outside of missed shots. I don’t know how this is the best team in the country and if it is then it’s a very down year for WCBB. Yikes.

They sure do win pretty though.
 

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I just can't picture Stanford taking on any contact. They are more of a finesse team.
Have you watched them? Despite being thin, Brink has always been an aggressive player and is a lot stronger than she appears. Iriafen is wiry but is also plenty strong and doesn't shy away from contact.
 
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Maryland held up until the third which I thought was a good sign considering the roster situation. I don't think many expected the game being a 6 point difference at half. The freshman will give fans something to be excited about this season.

My only gripe was the guard Cooke driving to the hoop as many times that she did. Not sure if it's a habit or that she saw something because all I saw was a lot of South Carolina in the paint.
This is Gia Gooke's game. She is super super fast but she plays out of control. When she learns to harness that great speed, she'll be really good.
 

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I really thought South Carolina looked terrible last night? Maryland ran out of steam with some injuries midway through the third quarter but it was a close game up until that point with their best player on the bench.

SC guard play is atrocious and they struggle to get the ball inside outside of missed shots. I don’t know how this is the best team in the country and if it is then it’s a very down year for WCBB. Yikes.
Atrocious is a bit harsh for a 25 point win on the road. The offense isn’t pretty but their defense is top notch and they dominate the glass.
 
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Atrocious is a bit harsh for a 25 point win on the road. The offense isn’t pretty but their defense is top notch and they dominate the glass.

25 point win on the road with the other players best player injured on the bench and the other top players in and out of the game with injuries. It was a six point game halfway through the third quarter.

I should say atrocious offensively though. It’s embarrassing to have a backcourt you completely sag off of at this level. They will need to learn to shoot or pass during the season if they want a chance to repeat because last nights strategy isn’t going to work against top teams of with their best players playing.
 
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I really thought South Carolina looked terrible last night? Maryland ran out of steam with some injuries midway through the third quarter but it was a close game up until that point with their best player on the bench.

SC guard play is atrocious and they struggle to get the ball inside outside of missed shots. I don’t know how this is the best team in the country and if it is then it’s a very down year for WCBB. Yikes.

Literally the second game of the season on the road against a top 20 opponent. Didn’t really expect the game to be pretty especially this early. Despite that they scored 81 points. Teams better hope the guards don’t find their shots because it’ll be pretty much over if they do.
 
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This is Gia Gooke's game. She is super super fast but she plays out of control. When she learns to harness that great speed, she'll be really good.
Is it Gooke or Cooke? I don't want to get her name wrong.
 
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Literally the second game of the season on the road against a top 20 opponent. Didn’t really expect the game to be pretty especially this early. Despite that they scored 81 points. Teams better hope the guards don’t find their shots because it’ll be pretty much over if they do.
You don’t “find” your shot. Their technique and form aren’t good across the board. The problems they have are ones that need to be solved in the off season not during the season. South Carolina was my favorite womens team last year it’s a shame they have such issues this year because I don’t think they’ll be much fun to watch.
 
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You don’t “find” your shot. Their technique and form aren’t good across the board. The problems they have are ones that need to be solved in the off season not during the season. South Carolina was my favorite womens team last year it’s a shame they have such issues this year because I don’t think they’ll be much fun to watch.
You absolutely can find your shot it’s called Rhythm. Raven going 0-4 probably won’t happen much and same for Kierra. Those two went a combined 0-10 and 0-6 from 3.They’re obviously not fully healthy so the team isn’t at their best just yet. Despite that they won big. Stanford will be a big test but I doubt they win by 10+ like you predicted. When that game comes around SC would have played 2 tough games to prepare them. Stanford not so much. We’ll see.
 
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You absolutely can find your shot it’s called Rhythm. Raven going 0-4 probably won’t happen much and same for Kierra. Those two went a combined 0-10 and 0-6 from 3.They’re obviously not fully healthy so the team isn’t at their best just yet. Despite that they won big. Stanford will be a big test but I doubt they win by 10+ like you predicted. When that game comes around SC would have played 2 tough games to prepare them. Stanford not so much. We’ll see.
They don’t have rhythm problem though. They have a form and range problem. Their shooting issues need to be addressed with thousands of reps over multiple offseasons. It’s not an inseason fix. They also don’t have the vision or skills in passing into the post. That can be worked on but only to an extent during the season. That’s why I’m so bummed watching them, their issues give them a ceiling and I don’t think it’s as high as last year.

I also wouldn’t say Maryland is a top 20 team without their best players so I don’t think the test was a great as it seems on paper.
 
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South Carolinas team last year shot in the 40% range most of the season so their offense is never that pretty. It’s their defense that wins games. I’m ok with whatever works to get the win! If you want to watch pretty basketball pick another team but you may not be watching that team come late March!
 
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They don’t have rhythm problem though. They have a form and range problem. Their shooting issues need to be addressed with thousands of reps over multiple offseasons. It’s not an inseason fix. They also don’t have the vision or skills in passing into the post. That can be worked on but only to an extent during the season. That’s why I’m so bummed watching them, their issues give them a ceiling and I don’t think it’s as high as last year.

I also wouldn’t say Maryland is a top 20 team without their best players so I don’t think the test was a great as it seems on paper.

Clearly you only watched one game. Whether you believe it or not Maryland was definitely a test for SC and they will be for UConn as well. That was a good team. They definitely can work through shooting and passing as they did last year as well. If you don’t think a team can grow throughout the season idk what to tell you.
 
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You don’t “find” your shot. Their technique and form aren’t good across the board. The problems they have are ones that need to be solved in the off season not during the season. South Carolina was my favorite womens team last year it’s a shame they have such issues this year because I don’t think they’ll be much fun to watch.
These were all “issues” last year so I’m not sure what you’re seeing now that you didn’t see then…
 
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These were all “issues” last year so I’m not sure what you’re seeing now that you didn’t see then…
They had 20 assists on 30 made baskets last night. I don’t think we’ve ever had that many assists on baskets before. And the turnovers were mostly off of ticket tack offensive fouls or traveling after rebounds. I’m not worried, once the PGs get adjusted we’re going to be fine. Shooting, passing and defense included.
 

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SC's defense and size will simply overwhelm most teams. The are so long and athletic at every position. Offense was painful at times with the ball just floating around the perimeter looking for an entry pass while all of Maryland was clobbering Boston inside. I'm no basketball expert, but wouldn't it make sense for Beal/Johnson/Fletcher to simply take 1-2 dribbles and get to about 15 feet and either dribble into an open midrange, or draw a defender and create more space for Boston inside? Or kick it out to a shooter so they can catch in rhythm? The redundancy of throwing it around the perimeter rarely seemed to work, though Beale/Cooke were able to knock down looks outside. Johnson didn't play well but I'm excited to watch her play this year. She looks extremely long/athletic. Cardoso played great, Boston was Boston.

Maryland put up a valiant effort through the first half but fell apart in the 3rd. They're just not nearly as talented without Miller out there and are a completely different team than they've been the past few years. Briggs was very underwhelming after a lot of excitement about her coming this year. Meyer was quite good in the first but tailed off in the second half. She didn't get enough helped. I liked the aggressiveness of freshman Cooke. I still think they could be a Big Ten title contender if Miller returns and Briggs steps up.
No. If you are South Carolina you don't change a thing on the offensive end. Cardoso and Boston were basically shooting layups last night and at one point were collectively 13 of 13 on FGA attempts and SC had a 2X advantage in rebounding. The rest of the SC starters were 9 for 30. If you are a SC opponent you have to give yourself a chance by: 1) Crowding the feet of Boston and Cardoso. What that means is your defensive position is to always have one foot between their two feet. 2) Pressure the SC passers have them make that pass off the bounce or with a hand in the face. South Carolina is basically using this pair the same way that Vic used Teaira McCowan -when you need a basket throw it towards the corner of the basket because no one has a defender big enough to defend up there. Boston and Cardoso are much more skilled than McCowan was and they get enough baskets the conventional way.
 
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I really thought South Carolina looked terrible last night? Maryland ran out of steam with some injuries midway through the third quarter but it was a close game up until that point with their best player on the bench.

SC guard play is atrocious and they struggle to get the ball inside outside of missed shots. I don’t know how this is the best team in the country and if it is then it’s a very down year for WCBB. Yikes.
Because SC can look "terrible" and still dominate.
 
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25 point win on the road with the other players best player injured on the bench and the other top players in and out of the game with injuries. It was a six point game halfway through the third quarter.

I should say atrocious offensively though. It’s embarrassing to have a backcourt you completely sag off of at this level. They will need to learn to shoot or pass during the season if they want a chance to repeat because last nights strategy isn’t going to work against top teams of with their best players playing.

Yes, really embarrassing. Lol.
 

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