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NB is going to play starting or not, KLS,DJB,NC are going to play, what you fail to realize is the defensive side of the ball, unless we are going to play a lot of zone with NB it maybe hard to play her more than 15-20min a game, with the others he will be able to defend every position in man 2 man with switching etc. how many 6'5" centers will uconn have to deal with in 2015 to 2019, ask yourself if NB could guard KLS,DJB,NC because that might be the type of players she may have to guard on defense

???? How many 6'5" centers ? Butler will NOT have ANY problems in conference play on the defensive end. And the opponents in the tougher OOC games will have a center about her size anyway. BTW, UConn seemed to do pretty well with 6'5" Dolson at center. In fact, a case could be made that UConn was at least as effective with the big lineup (Dolson, Stewart and Stokes) as with the smaller lineup. I didn't notice problems of smaller forwards taking advantage of UConn's bigs. Could Butler guard KLS,DJB or NC ? Probably not but which centers can ? Does that mean that 6'5" players are destined to ride the bench ? And what about the reverse ? How effective would a smaller player be stopping Butler inside ? I think not playing Butler because of a concern with her defense is a solution in search of a problem. And to think, she won't suit up until the 2015-2016 season ! Well, why wait to see what happens when it can be decided now. ;)
 
Gdfather...
<<it's all message board material because none of us really knows how it will turnout>>
Exactly! It is all speculation... and even from game to game.
What we have is the clay from which beautiful porcelain can be made. A Summer of practices will tell El Maestro what he has in various combinations. And what he'll pull out of his hat to craft each game plan is conjecture.
(Whether Butler is adept enough to mirror a Dolson high post set-up passer won't be confirmed until Geno sees if it can be mastered. But, I do believe he has telegraphed that he does see the potential for it.)
We have long experienced the little man behind the curtain and his pulling of levers. UConn customarily may have one set of five on the floor to start a game. Give it the four minute (sometimes less) audition... then... add a little speed, switch an assignment, throw in a 3/4 press unit... Tinker, try, & modify.
We have two more years of the ultimate "swiss-army-knife" of bball players. Too tall for most guards, too fluid for most "traditional" centers, and enough range to make opposing forwards weep.
Two more years of the pesky 'lil defender on (Mo)jet skis... an awesome fly in other teams' ointment... Four inches shorter than harrass-Faris, but a nervous-dervish that turns others lazy passes to breakaway deuces.
And when ANYONEs energy level tapers... Geno can play the next card in the deck.
See a hole in some team's defense... Add four minutes of 6-4" or a left-handed slasher (Moment of silence for BBanks, here).
We've got the clay comin', we've got the mad-potter, a few fiery practice months and... I think... we'll have a nice set of dishes to eat other folks' lunch.
 
Butler came to UConn as a transfer and I'm sure she didn't come to sit the bench or have limited minutes. We all were talking about a big post player and when Wilson and Turner went elsewhere we were all concerned. We got lucky to get a player like Butler with her proven record. With that said post players take time to develop however Butlers numbers for a freshman in a conference tuffer then the AAC are extraordinary. She will be very good and maybe a great player before Geno finishes with her development.

All this discussion about playing minutes can work against us. We all know parents recruits AAU coaches and opposing college coaches read this board and they can use our discussions of lack of playtime to keep players from coming to UConn. When you talking about a top 10 recruit by name from a class a year or two from now and remarking that she will sit the bench or will not play significant minutes is exactly one of the reasons why Asia Durr is waiting to commit. With our incoming freshman class of 4 guards/wings has her wondering who else will come to UConn and where she fits in and how many minutes she will play. She is ranked 1 or 2 depending on the poll and she is waiting. If shes waiting to commit what do you think kids coming up are looking at? As great as it would be for a girl to play on this UConn team she will want to play not sit.

We dont know who will start and how many minutes who will get because we dont know who might be injured, who might not be developed and who might play another position and who might be in a slump. Our 2015 class has 3 top 10 recruits and if Durr commits we have 4. If in the class of 2016 UConn gets 3 more verbals we know that Geno cant play over 5 at a time. So yes there will be shared minutes. Now what about the rest of the roster? Sharing minutes is huge. We dont know how many minutes anybody will get. It makes me uncomfortable when I read threads saying that a recruit wont start or wont play or there isnt enough room for her because I know there are people who read this board who believe what is written and that can work against us. JMO
 
eric- no offense my friend but you didn't read one of my earlier posts (or at least my first post my very 1st three sentences) which got this started which means you have totally misunderstood what I was saying. Thank you Godfather for your post abotu Boykin. Eric all I said is below in italics and aded to that premise throughout all my posts as to not automtiacly pencilling in NB. I did say NB could wind up as a star too. I said I have not seen them play. It's just that I am not sold as most of you are that it is so obvious that NB will start and get 25+ minutes. So as my 1st 3 sentences said in italics:

There has been a lot of talk of just "penciling in" Natalie as a starter and a near lock for 25 miintues. etc. I don't agree with that at all. It is possible sure.

And by me being in the minority as you suggest that is soooo irrelevant because I believe so many like me haven't watched Natlie and DJB live to make an accurate assessement. Nowhere has Geno said NB will start, has he? Regarding Geno's game changer comment - I made a post stating how Geno once compared Gillain Goring in some manner or spoke of her in a manner to Hakeem Olajuwon. And I can't recall one post that showed a comment that Geno said NB is a lock to start.

What I have suggested is that a poster such as Godfather could be right. Boykin could be a top 5 player or better. That is more relevant than others offering their opinion based on not watching any of them at all but just have "a feeling." I think Godfather did- and Fuller spoke very highly of DJB as well. So I'm not as confident as you- or slu etc. Big deal.

I don't want to get into a long drawn out fight here of what was said and wasn't. I realize to go back and read my comments and slu's and read Godfather's etc - it isn't worth it. So I'm done. IMO my point has ran it's course. There is no further point to rehash other than - You have your opinion I have mine. I am not saying NB won't start or won't be a star. And Geno's comment of her being a game changer imo is so irrelevant that I don't put much stock in it at all. If that makes me in the minroity so be it. But I have never known Geno to give any player anything. It has to be earned. Which then means Natalie is NOT assured of any starting slot. Therefore anyone that disagrees with my last underlined statement is in the minority imo.
Well I was only replying to your post which had 2 factual inaccuracies. As for misunderstanding, again, Geno thinks she's going to be terrific. I'll take my cues from him over posters on here, myself included!
 
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I agree with you - she has proved herself at the college level. She has proven herself at the mid-level college level. while the Big East is above mid-level - to get to championship level they are average at best. The difference of the final four teams caliber of play and overall the Big East- they are an average conference. You can get 15 and 15 vs a 65 ranked team. It doesn't mean you are going to get 10-10 vs a top ten team. We're on a different planet than a team like DePaul. A player like Brianna Banks could average double digits in the new Big East. And I believe most of us believe she is a fine player. But UCONN - and competing against other super super teams- it's an entirely different animal.

I just don't believe one can tie in mid college level and make it sound so assured she can lock in 25 minutes on the team like UCONN. Can she? Absolutely. And I believe she can be a star. I just don't believe she is as near of a lock as most of you. And I do believe if she came off the bench - and provided 15 minutes for example on championship teams maybe even close to 20 for example- I would not even close think of that as a failure either.
80% of the teams that UConn will play throughout the regular season will be no better than the teams in the Big East that Butler competed against AND DOMINATED. She's coming to UConn where she will have a year to integrate into the program, get appreciably better coaching and weight training and competing every day in practice against some of the most talented kids in the country. She has a marvelous work ethic and good physical skills (running the floor well, soft hands, etc) and somehow you speak of her as being a fine player as long as she's only playing against mid-major (Big East) teams but suggest that she'll lose minutes because you somehow feel that she won't be able to cope against better teams?????? It seems in reading some of your posts that you are all over the map with your opinions and there is a weird inconsistency. One minute you speak as if you have consummate knowledge of every scope of women's basketball and the next you're relying on opinions of a couple of posters who I had never heard of or read about before as if they brought the tablets off the Mount! You seem to suggest that you'd prefer smaller players playing the front line like we had with Task Force (2001) when we had multiple players playing the center and forward spots that were in the range of 6'1 thru 6'3. It obviously worked out well but had Geno had an accomplished player or players with size like Rebecca or Kara or Tina or Stef, I doubt that he would have used that smaller lineup as extensively as he did. Geno is undoubtedly going to have a lot of options with incoming talent and he loves flexibility and multi skill players but you act as if Stef would have have struggled for minutes if she were the transfer center coming into Storrs next season instead of Butler. You must remember that as a freshman, Stef didn't put up anywhere near the numbers that Butler did against primarily the same level talent though I know a couple of the stellar teams that Stef played against (Notre Dame and Louisville) were no longer in the Big East. Even if you feel Butler would have been completely shut down against these teams (which is unrealistic), her overall numbers wouldn't have changed that drastically. Why don't you and others give this girl some slack???? She has talent and yet you and others suggest that she is just some journeyman talent, competing against mediocrity to attain numbers. Evidently you assume that Geno's buddies and whose opinion he revers who coach DePaul and Villanova don't know anything about basketball skills and abilities when they see it???? They raved about Butler but still many here question her skill set or her ability to improve. If you had played and coached basketball all your life and had seen Butler play on numerous occasions and saw her exposed against talented teams, maybe, just maybe, I'd put a little stock in what you have to say but that isn't the case, is it? You are just making assumptions based on second hand information from WHO?????? If you are going to speculate, why don't you try and speculate in a positive manner instead of denigrating someone who you aren't even familiar with. The people around her can't say enough about her work ethic and her willingness to push herself continually to get better and better even when she was the UNANIMOUS winner of the freshman of the year award in her conference. Instead, there's bashing of a conference that we just left. Did you think the Big East conference sucked last year when we were in it???
 
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Butler came to UConn as a transfer and I'm sure she didn't come to sit the bench or have limited minutes. We all were talking about a big post player and when Wilson and Turner went elsewhere we were all concerned. We got lucky to get a player like Butler with her proven record. With that said post players take time to develop however Butlers numbers for a freshman in a conference tuffer then the AAC are extraordinary. She will be very good and maybe a great player before Geno finishes with her development.

All this discussion about playing minutes can work against us. We all know parents recruits AAU coaches and opposing college coaches read this board and they can use our discussions of lack of playtime to keep players from coming to UConn. When you talking about a top 10 recruit by name from a class a year or two from now and remarking that she will sit the bench or will not play significant minutes is exactly one of the reasons why Asia Durr is waiting to commit. With our incoming freshman class of 4 guards/wings has her wondering who else will come to UConn and where she fits in and how many minutes she will play. She is ranked 1 or 2 depending on the poll and she is waiting. If shes waiting to commit what do you think kids coming up are looking at? As great as it would be for a girl to play on this UConn team she will want to play not sit.

We dont know who will start and how many minutes who will get because we dont know who might be injured, who might not be developed and who might play another position and who might be in a slump. Our 2015 class has 3 top 10 recruits and if Durr commits we have 4. If in the class of 2016 UConn gets 3 more verbals we know that Geno cant play over 5 at a time. So yes there will be shared minutes. Now what about the rest of the roster? Sharing minutes is huge. We dont know how many minutes anybody will get. It makes me uncomfortable when I read threads saying that a recruit wont start or wont play or there isnt enough room for her because I know there are people who read this board who believe what is written and that can work against us. JMO
You are so, so right! All this speculation about minutes is so totally counter productive because we can't fill out a lineup card nor can Geno, as of this moment. When the basketball season starts and practices commence Geno will start evaluating the various skills and abilities of everyone on the team. Based on their work ethic, their skillset and their ability to integrate and develop chemistry, he'll formulate a starting lineup and as he sees fit, he'll award minutes in the best interests of the team. He may have conceived notions coming in but it'll actually be who does what and how well that will determine who plays how much! Case closed. All the speculating in the world won't change anything and it may do harm, as you've said. Some people believe everything they read and if some recruit thinks the cards are stacked against them and they won't have a fair chance to compete for minutes, then they may decide to look elsewhere. Minutes should be awarded based on competition and I'm sure Geno will do just that so lets stop some of this nonsense right now.
 
All this discussion about playing minutes can work against us. We all know parents recruits AAU coaches and opposing college coaches read this board and they can use our discussions of lack of playtime to keep players from coming to UConn.

I'm guessing players and parents can figure out which rosters are stacked with numbers and talent, and probably don't need to read this forum to figure it out. It's pretty simple math when you have 200 minutes and 12 quality or high quality players. We're not divulging secret info.

And with all dues respect, we have no idea why Durr is waiting to make her decision. Her arrival at UConn or elsewhere would effect others, not the other way around. She isn't sitting behind lesser talent.
 
I'm guessing players and parents can figure out which rosters are stacked with numbers and talent, and probably don't need to read this forum to figure it out. It's pretty simple math when you have 200 minutes and 12 quality or high quality players. We're not divulging secret info.

And with all dues respect, we have no idea why Durr is waiting to make her decision. Her arrival at UConn or elsewhere would effect others, not the other way around. She isn't sitting behind lesser talent.
Agree. If players/parents are basing their college selection on message boards.......OMG, heaven help them. I mean if many on here don't think conference affiliation has little effect, then something as trivial as message board chatter really should have no effect whatsoever.
 
You seem to suggest that you'd prefer smaller players playing the front line like we had with Task Force (2001) when we had multiple players playing the center and forward spots that were in the range of 6'1 thru 6'3. It obviously worked out well but had Geno had an accomplished player or players with size like Rebecca or Kara or Tina or Stef, I doubt that he would have used that smaller lineup as extensively as he did.
Actually Geno did have a player with size, although not on the Lobo, Wolters, Charles or Dolson level (but then I don't think Butler is quite at that level either) in Sauer. As a senior she did not start. Cash/Jones/Williams did, because they were better. I think Butler can be good, not sure if she'll be at the AA level though. Which is fine. If she ends up a JMoore/Schumacher level player, I'll be very happy.

Not saying Butler won't start, but saying there is precedence of starting younger/smaller/more talented (if that is the case) players.
 
Actually Geno did have a player with size, although not on the Lobo, Wolters, Charles or Dolson level (but then I don't think Butler is quite at that level either) in Sauer. As a senior she did not start. Cash/Jones/Williams did, because they were better. I think Butler can be good, not sure if she'll be at the AA level though. Which is fine. If she ends up a JMoore/Schumacher level player, I'll be very happy.

Not saying Butler won't start, but saying there is precedence of starting younger/smaller/more talented (if that is the case) players.

Me too. And I think that is a reasonable expectation given her fine freshman year. AA is conceivable but not reasonable to expect.
 
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Me too. And I think that is a reasonable expectation given her fine freshman year. AA is conceivable but not reasonable to expect.
That makes sense to me. Moore was a starter for at least a year or two, and who can forget Kelly's block party in 2000-whatever when she went bonkers against Tennessee. It was epic.

But to be fair, Kelly never averaged more than 6.5 PPG or 4.5 RPG in her entire college career. I get what people are trying to say regarding expectations, or Natalie's ceiling, but I think the Moore comparison is more apt.

Jessica averaged about 9.5 PPG and 6.5 RPG over her last 3 years of college (her freshman numbers were more modest). If Natalie can do that over her 3 remaining years, I would sign up for that... (but I still think her numbers will be bigger than that, especially on the rebounding side)...
 
Butler came to UConn as a transfer and I'm sure she didn't come to sit the bench or have limited minutes. We all were talking about a big post player and when Wilson and Turner went elsewhere we were all concerned. We got lucky to get a player like Butler with her proven record. With that said post players take time to develop however Butlers numbers for a freshman in a conference tuffer then the AAC are extraordinary. She will be very good and maybe a great player before Geno finishes with her development.

All this discussion about playing minutes can work against us. We all know parents recruits AAU coaches and opposing college coaches read this board and they can use our discussions of lack of playtime to keep players from coming to UConn. When you talking about a top 10 recruit by name from a class a year or two from now and remarking that she will sit the bench or will not play significant minutes is exactly one of the reasons why Asia Durr is waiting to commit. With our incoming freshman class of 4 guards/wings has her wondering who else will come to UConn and where she fits in and how many minutes she will play. She is ranked 1 or 2 depending on the poll and she is waiting. If shes waiting to commit what do you think kids coming up are looking at? As great as it would be for a girl to play on this UConn team she will want to play not sit.

We dont know who will start and how many minutes who will get because we dont know who might be injured, who might not be developed and who might play another position and who might be in a slump. Our 2015 class has 3 top 10 recruits and if Durr commits we have 4. If in the class of 2016 UConn gets 3 more verbals we know that Geno cant play over 5 at a time. So yes there will be shared minutes. Now what about the rest of the roster? Sharing minutes is huge. We dont know how many minutes anybody will get. It makes me uncomfortable when I read threads saying that a recruit wont start or wont play or there isnt enough room for her because I know there are people who read this board who believe what is written and that can work against us. JMO
Agree, this discussion is getting a little old, I'd say.
 
It's amazing to me that people can jettison a player-- Butler, accomplishments as an effect of "mid-majors" competition. Isn't the AAC just as mid-major as the BE? And what about all those "mid-major" players (EDD, f. upex) who have graduated to the WNBA and lighting it. Were they not as good as their stats showed? IMHO, Butler and Kia are the two proven players we have coming in next year. All others are potential. Of course the former ones have to adjust to their current situation.
 
It's amazing to me that people can jettison a player--
I don't think anyone is jettisoning a player. Just some of us think she will be a good player, maybe not "the next coming". And for me that isn't based on where she played as a freshmen.
 
I don't think anyone is jettisoning a player. Just some of us think she will be a good player, maybe not "the next coming". And for me that isn't based on where she played as a freshmen.

That's nice of you. I would have a problem sorting the 4 pages into "good" vs "the next coming". The supplement would end up in an untitled bin. Questions are posed to her statistics, will she ever start, play back up to a 6,2 player, is G'Town a div 1... At best, there is a quiet reserve regarding this player that haunts none of the others. All I have in my hands to spin are her stats from a div 1 school- will she be "the next coming"? Reminds me of the White King (from Alice in Wonderland) who asks Alice to look along the road to see if his messenger is coming: 'I see nobody on the road, said Alice. 'I only wish I had such eyes,' the King remarked in a fretful tone. 'To be able to see Nobody! And at that distance too! Why, it's as much as I can do to see real people, by this light!' Telling a story in the place of the null class.
 
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That's nice of you.
I'm a nice guy.

Questions are posed to her statistics, will she ever start, play back up to a 6,2 player, is G'Town a div 1... At best, there is a quiet reserve regarding this player that haunts none of the others.
hmmmm, there doesn't seem to be a lot of over the top talk about Edwards. I think there is a bit of quiet reserve on her.
 
I think she is a starter from the moment she becomes eligible to when she decides to leave. Nothing behind that except a former coach ( Jim Lewis) who thought she had potential to play in the WNBA, an opposing coach's (Doug Bruno) assessment that she has the potential to be a great player and her current coach's opinion that she can be a game changer. I have seen her play a couple of times (tv) and I liked her game. I just remember that she altered a lot of shots and ran the floor well.

oops.....talking about Natalie Butler.....this was meant as a reply to meyers7
 
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Dolson came into Connecticut a little out of shape,but with skills.With the proper coaching and work ethic,she became an AA and first round WNBA draft choice.
Butler comes in to Connecticut as a very good college player,and will have one year of learning the system,finding out what is expected of her work ethic,time in the weight center,advise on her eating habits,etc.
Geno is right,and we will all see that,that she will be a game changer.

I totally agree with Tony C.It is futile to discuss minutes of any present or future basketball player at Connecticut.

We have no idea who will grow in the system,and who will not.Injuries almost always happen year to year,and someone will rise above to take some or all of those minutes lost.

On top of that,the Connecticut coaching staff,can develop a player's strengths,expose their weaknesses and correct them,and guide them into what is best to getting them to success,both team wise and individually.

I have never read any past or present player say that any time spent at Connecticut was a waste of time.Trust in Geno and staff should be in our thoughts,period.
 
I think she is a starter from the moment she becomes eligible to when she decides to leave. Nothing behind that except a former coach ( Jim Lewis) who thought she had potential to play in the WNBA, an opposing coach's (Doug Bruno) assessment that she has the potential to be a great player and her current coach's opinion that she can be a game changer. I have seen her play a couple of times (tv) and I liked her game. I just remember that she altered a lot of shots and ran the floor well.

oops.....talking about Natalie Butler.....this was meant as a reply to meyers7
I hope she is all those things. I just don't think, from what I've seen of her, that she is on the Charles/Dolson/Lobo level. I think she can be very good, and even maybe have a career in the WNBA. That would be great. I just don't see an AA or NPOY in her future. I could be (and would be happy to be) wrong.
 
I hope she is all those things. I just don't think, from what I've seen of her, that she is on the Charles/Dolson/Lobo level. I think she can be very good, and even maybe have a career in the WNBA. That would be great. I just don't see an AA or NPOY in her future. I could be (and would be happy to be) wrong.
We don't need her to be Charles or Dolson but we do need her to be Kelly S. or Jessica Moore (who had a nice career in the WNBA) and with what she showed so far in college she should be able (with UConn coaching and all we read about her work ethic, etc) to do that.
Now, if she does become a game changer....all the better :)
 
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We don't need her to be Charles or Dolson but we do need her to be Kelly S. or Jessica Moore (who had a nice career in the WNBA) and with what she showed so far in college she should be able (with UConn coaching and all we read about her work ethic, etc) to do that.
Now, if she does become a game changer....all the better :)
Absolutely agreed. (in fact I think I said as much somewhere in one of these threads :cool:)
 
80% of the teams that UConn will play throughout the regular season will be no better than the teams in the Big East that Butler competed against AND DOMINATED. She's coming to UConn where she will have a year to integrate into the program, get appreciably better coaching and weight training and competing every day in practice against some of the most talented kids in the country. She has a marvelous work ethic and good physical skills (running the floor well, soft hands, etc) and somehow you speak of her as being a fine player as long as she's only playing against mid-major (Big East) teams but suggest that she'll lose minutes because you somehow feel that she won't be able to cope against better teams?????? It seems in reading some of your posts that you are all over the map with your opinions and there is a weird inconsistency. One minute you speak as if you have consummate knowledge of every scope of women's basketball and the next you're relying on opinions of a couple of posters who I had never heard of or read about before as if they brought the tablets off the Mount! You seem to suggest that you'd prefer smaller players playing the front line like we had with Task Force (2001) when we had multiple players playing the center and forward spots that were in the range of 6'1 thru 6'3. It obviously worked out well but had Geno had an accomplished player or players with size like Rebecca or Kara or Tina or Stef, I doubt that he would have used that smaller lineup as extensively as he did. Geno is undoubtedly going to have a lot of options with incoming talent and he loves flexibility and multi skill players but you act as if Stef would have have struggled for minutes if she were the transfer center coming into Storrs next season instead of Butler. You must remember that as a freshman, Stef didn't put up anywhere near the numbers that Butler did against primarily the same level talent though I know a couple of the stellar teams that Stef played against (Notre Dame and Louisville) were no longer in the Big East. Even if you feel Butler would have been completely shut down against these teams (which is unrealistic), her overall numbers wouldn't have changed that drastically. Why don't you and others give this girl some slack???? She has talent and yet you and others suggest that she is just some journeyman talent, competing against mediocrity to attain numbers. Evidently you assume that Geno's buddies and whose opinion he revers who coach DePaul and Villanova don't know anything about basketball skills and abilities when they see it???? They raved about Butler but still many here question her skill set or her ability to improve. If you had played and coached basketball all your life and had seen Butler play on numerous occasions and saw her exposed against talented teams, maybe, just maybe, I'd put a little stock in what you have to say but that isn't the case, is it? You are just making assumptions based on second hand information from WHO?????? If you are going to speculate, why don't you try and speculate in a positive manner instead of denigrating someone who you aren't even familiar with. The people around her can't say enough about her work ethic and her willingness to push herself continually to get better and better even when she was the UNANIMOUS winner of the freshman of the year award in her conference. Instead, there's bashing of a conference that we just left. Did you think the Big East conference sucked last year when we were in it???

Buzzyboy - read all the below posts in italics I made previously on this thread before you posted to me. I did not suggest she was a journeyman when I said below in italics. I'm not sold in being as confident as you and many others that she is going to start and get 25+ minutes especially in her very first year which I got the impression the poster "slu . . . ," was doing. And nowhere did I say " I prefer smaller centers." I did say below that Geno will play his best. That's much diffeent that your post saying to me "You seem to suggest that you'd prefer smaller players playing the front line . . . " I prefer the best players. So if it's Natalie - fine - great super!!! Here are the posts.

And I'm not sold that NB is better than the other recruits coming in. Though it wouldn't surprise that much if she is better than all of them overall at center and gets 25 minutes

He is going to "ride" hard his best players as complete players. If Natalie is among his best - fine.

Butler is "ideal" but I believe Geno plays the better player… No reason why Butler couldn't be similar IF Boykin is better (and what do you think I meant if Boykin isn’t better?).

And I don’t believe just because Butler is a junior means it’s so obvious she is going to be better than 6’2 soph Boykin


So if I'm saying she can start on Ct how am I not cutting her slack? It's just not obvious to me. I am not saying you or anyone else is wrong. Anyhow I don't want to get into a back-and-forth on this thread. If you want to have last word go for it. If you want to pm me or if anyone else sure- go ahead - and if so for anyone - let's be civil. And we can go back-and-forth but make no mistake no way do I believe NB can't be a big-time star . To repeat for me - just me - I'm not sold it is so obvious though. If for you it is- great!
 
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If you want to pm me or if anyone else sure- go ahead - and if so for anyone - let's be civil.
Being civil includes not distorting somebody else's handle -- as in "Bussboy" [sic].
 
If you want to pm me or if anyone else sure- go ahead - and if so for anyone - let's be civil.
Being civil includes not distorting someone else's handle -- as in "Bussboy" [sic].
 
Being civil includes not distorting somebody else's handle -- as in "Bussboy" [sic].

I didn't mean it. Sorry.

Sorry buzzyboy. I changed mine from up top. Sorry.
 
Buzzyboy - read all the below posts in italics I made previously on this thread before you posted to me. I did not suggest she was a journeyman when I said below in italics. I'm not sold in being as confident as you and many others that she is going to start and get 25+ minutes especially in her very first year which I got the impression the poster "slu . . . ," was doing. And nowhere did I say " I prefer smaller centers." I did say below that Geno will play his best. That's much diffeent that your post saying to me "You seem to suggest that you'd prefer smaller players playing the front line . . . " I prefer the best players. So if it's Natalie - fine - great super!!! Here are the posts.

And I'm not sold that NB is better than the other recruits coming in. Though it wouldn't surprise that much if she is better than all of them overall at center and gets 25 minutes

He is going to "ride" hard his best players as complete players. If Natalie is among his best - fine.

Butler is "ideal" but I believe Geno plays the better player… No reason why Butler couldn't be similar IF Boykin is better (and what do you think I meant if Boykin isn’t better?).

And I don’t believe just because Butler is a junior means it’s so obvious she is going to be better than 6’2 soph Boykin


So if I'm saying she can start on Ct how am I not cutting her slack? It's just not obvious to me. I am not saying you or anyone else is wrong. Anyhow I don't want to get into a back-and-forth on this thread. If you want to have last word go for it. If you want to pm me or if anyone else sure- go ahead - and if so for anyone - let's be civil. And we can go back-and-forth but make no mistake no way do I believe NB can't be a big-time star . To repeat for me - just me - I'm not sold it is so obvious though. If for you it is- great!
Okay, maybe we had a misunderstanding. No problem. I agree that Geno will play the best player or at least the player best for the situation at hand. I'm not giving Butler any minutes (you mentioned 25) because she'll have to earn it like everyone else. Whether she gets 5 minutes or 30 minutes will depend on how much she has to offer. My whole thing was the suggestion by a number of posters to dismiss what she did in her freshman year at Georgetown because of the level of competition (or lack thereof) she played against. I felt, based on what had been said about her by reputable coaches (some of whom are Geno's good buddies) that she has talent and ability that should only get better considering her work ethic and who she'll be being coached by beyond the fact that she'll be competing in practice against some exceptional players. It all bodes well for her and for UConn and I'd be surprised (and disappointed) if she doesn't become a very good center who will be able to contribute a good deal. I'm sure there might be times where Geno might feel that a more mobile player would be the answer against a particular lineup but in general, I'm optimistic that she'll be a lot more than adequate. I feel she'll contribute but as to how much, we won't know until we see her in November of 2015 after she's had a few games under her belt but I do like what I've heard from basketball people who've seen her play.
 
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