SMU to Face Postseason Ban

[Walker11]

I think the punishment is fine, the timing is horrible, and the fact that UNC will likely get a slap on the wrist for far worse is infuriating.

 

[Towney007]

Not surprised. SMU as an athletic department and Larry Brown have had so many issues with the NCAA over the years. Not shocked at all...

 

[AZHuskiePop]

Yeah, I've been saying for a while now that Syracuse's penalties were much harsher than people were making them out to be, but these SMU penalties are a little extreme. I wasn't really paying any attention the entire process, but I wasn't expecting a post-season ban.

Silver lining is that this makes the AAC tournament a little easier for us.

In the light of the UConn Ban, for an offense that's actually much less severe.
Cuses ban was less severe. For violations grossly more flagrant.
If UConn's ban was identical.
(Keep in mind we already were being penalized for an awful APR in 2008 by loss of scholarship. Plus we lost Scholarships from the Nate Miles fiasco. So our numbers from 2008 2013 are about the same as theirs.)
We essentially were punished again when they rolled out a new punishmement of a four year average that included 2008. Remember if they included the current year
That year would have been dropped from the moving average.
we would have complied. It was essential that the NCAA go back somehow to 2008. Even though our APR improved in the next three years. It wasn't enough to offset that awful year.
Let's look at the way our punishment rolled out
We would have been suspended for Drummonds freshman year. A year were JC was ill and the team although hugely talented underachieved.
JC steps down KO takes over
It would have been over.
(My personal opinion is that the APR ban was made up specifically to punish Jim Calhoun for getting around the scholarship ban by getting Drummond to walk on.
It was a personal vendetta.)
No one would have been allowed to transfer . Without sitting out a year.
Would Drummond declare if we were eligible his sophomore year?
Would Lamb declare ?

Even if they did we would have had a much better team in 2013 ,played in the last Big East tournament and made some noise in the NCAA's.
Recruiting was impacted over the course of a couple of years
Most importantly ,the UConn story for every game for a three year period was:
1They will be suspended next year. Everyone is deserting the ship.
2They are playing for nothing
3 There team was decimemated by last year's punishment. UConn will never recover.
4. Through in the breakup of our conference
Cuse has lost scholies and last year disaster came and went.
I think one senior was thrown under the bus for the good of the Fruit.
Does that seem like equity.

 

[MexicoHusky]

Are we the only program banned for actual grades?

 

[geordi]

No, you guys don't understand. North Carolina is being punished by banning SMU and taking scholarships away.

 

[CallMeBruce]

No, you guys don't understand. North Carolina is being punished by banning SMU and taking scholarships away.

This "joke" is repeated 4 or 5 times on every page about NCAA sanctions, and it hasn't been funny once.

 

[Jaker]

Rules have always been an annoyance to Larry, won't be surprised if he retires before the season starts.

 

[CL82]

This "joke" is repeated 4 or 5 times on every page about NCAA sanctions, and it hasn't been funny once.

Disagree. I'm sure it was funny once, not in this thread, but if you go back far enough, it probably was hysterical.

 

[Jaker]

Brown, Boehiem, Williams and Calipari all deserve the Kelvin Sanction type punishment.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

That was UNC's penalty.

Emmert & Company figure Larry Brown coaches University of No Classes.

 

[August_West]

This "joke" is repeated 4 or 5 times on every page about NCAA sanctions, and it hasn't been funny once.

Its funny 'cause its true.

 

[CardiacAndre7]

Interesting scenario here...

Seth Greenberg‏@SethOnHoops
Scenario. SMU seniors Moore Tolbert and Kennedy withdraw and enroll in an institution that is on quarters and had yet to begin classes

Depaul, Lousiana Tech and a bunch of west coast schools do this.

 

[Pudge]

UCLA starts this week

 

[gwhuskyfan]

Wow...Dickie V with the hottest of hot takes: ban Larry Brown from coaching ever again in college

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...arry-brown-banned-coaching-college-basketball

 

[Stainmaster]

Wow...Dickie V with the hottest of hot takes: ban Larry Brown from coaching ever again in college

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...arry-brown-banned-coaching-college-basketball

This coming from the guy who believed that Boeheim was framed? Enough is enough, put him out to pasture and let him focus on his charity work.

 

[johnhuskies95]

This coming from the guy who believed that Boeheim was framed? Enough is enough, put him out to pasture and let him focus on his charity work.

He's so transparent. If you're friends with him you could buy players for all he cares. But if you don't like him then he'll bash you.

 

[A10 fan]

Larry Brown is a Tar Heel. Thus, the Tar Heels have been punished. The NCAA is so clever!

 

[Rocktheworld]

Who didn't see something like this coming the minute SMU hired Larry Brown?

 

[Vuce]

Wow...Dickie V with the hottest of hot takes: ban Larry Brown from coaching ever again in college http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...arry-brown-banned-coaching-college-basketball

Let's see what he says about cryin Roy. I bet he defends him to the end.

 

[UConn990411]

Its funny 'cause its true.

Not in this case.

Whether UNC gets a fair punishment is a different story, but SMU got this penalty for being a slimy program.

 

[Rocktheworld]

And now Dana O'Neil piles on. Over/under on the wait before the Goodman article comes out?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...all-coach-larry-brown-gets-punished-yet-again

 

[August_West]

Not in this case. Whether UNC gets a fair punishment is a different story, but SMU got this penalty for being a slimy program.

No doubt. Not diminishing SMUs griminess, but at the same time anytime ncaa punishes someone else not named UNC ( and after the Syracuse slap on wrist) you have to laugh at the hypocrisy.

 

[JonnyRI]

Its funny 'cause its true.

Is there any truth to story on zagsblog that the scholarships smu is losing will be given to Kentucky?

 

[Rocktheworld]

No doubt. Not diminishing SMUs griminess, but at the same time anytime ncaa punishes someone else not named UNC ( and after the Syracuse slap on wrist) you have to laugh at the hypocrisy.

And when was the last time anything significant happened to an SEC school?

 

[UConn990411]

No doubt. Not diminishing SMUs griminess, but at the same time anytime ncaa punishes someone else not named UNC ( and after the Syracuse slap on wrist) you have to laugh at the hypocrisy.

Without a doubt.

Conservatively speaking, UNC should lose at least one title and face at least one postseason ban. If that doesn't happen, SMU should sue (they won't, but they should).