- Joined
- Sep 2, 2011
- Messages
- 3,174
- Reaction Score
- 3,756
I saw much of the same from Whitmer in game 1 and that was enough for me to say move on.Whitmer was not good enough under the status quo. The status quo has changed.
I saw much of the same from Whitmer in game 1 and that was enough for me to say move on.Whitmer was not good enough under the status quo. The status quo has changed.
Whitmer was not good enough under the status quo. The status quo has changed.
We just saw Whitmer against BYU. He was awful.
And Casey was terrific?
We are arguing for Boyle over Whitmer. Only if CC is out for the long term.And Casey was terrific?
whats long term?We are arguing for Boyle over Whitmer. Only if CC is out for the long term.
I can't believe this is going on.
No, Boyle shouldn't start, and if we're in the position against Stony Brook, where come the 4th quarter, a back breaking turnover can cost us the game, Chandler Whitmer is the least of this program's problems.
Again, silly question, and one that has been answered by others already, and the answer is: Don't f----king lose to Stony Brook.
whats long term?
I would say more than half the season. We have seen enough of Whitmer and if Boyle is not the answer then let's find that out as well. If not, then Diaco can go with one of his own next year.whats long term?
The season. Or forever.
This isn't just about Stony Brook Carl. Its about the remainder of the season. I don't see how Boyle could be any worse than Whitmer. If he is as good or better, which I think he is, why wouldn't we get him reps?
The real question should be, do you believe Whitmer is better than Boyle? That's what we're really talking about. My answer is that I don't.
I would say more than half the season. We have seen enough of Whitmer and if Boyle is not the answer then let's find that out as well. If not, then Diaco can go with one of his own next year.
I just don't understand why anyone believes Whitmer is good enough based on what we've seen.
But I don't see how anyone could see this as an "obvious" choice..
And is playing Whitmer building for the long term? He is a Senior.Because Whitmer didn't play in a vacuum. I look at the fact he got worse while he's been our QB, and I blame two people. Those two people are gone, and I think he can get better. I don't blame him for the offense. I realize he has faults, but he also has some tools to build on. He's never gotten good protection. He's never had a reliable running game. And he's been asked to do some epically stupid things (lining up at WR) and he's done all of it, and has handled himself with dignity and respect. I think with this schedule and a better ground game, he can get us to 6 wins.
Burning a redshirt isn't building long term, it's playing for today. If we're going to build long term, we should redshirt Boyle, not play him. Boyle will be a better 5th year senior than true sophomore.
And is playing Whitmer building for the long term? He is a Senior.
Ok, let's say CC is done due to concussions. We play Whitmer the rest of the year and he maybe gets us 6 wins and that's a big maybe. Then what for next year. We go into a season with no QB with any experience and go through growing pains all over again. I saw as many positives from Boyle last season as I did Whitmer. Whitmer is damaged goods and we saw that against BYU as he did not stand in the pocket and immediately started running for his life. Who cares about the redshirt right now. What if Boyle was RS last year, would you then be in agreement that Boyle should get the nod?
Couldn't disagree more. We can't afford to sacrifice any more years at this point. Unless you know when the next realignment windown will be and when the "last" realignment window will be. If we win 6 with Whitmer and 4 with Boyle, you play whitmer and take your six. If Boyle is as good or better, my guess is we wouldn't have been redshirting him in the first place.
This thread. I mean....this thread!!!
Whitmer is better than Boyle currently. We also need to create an extra year separation between Boyle and Cochran (likely), if we believe that Boyle is the future...which I do. The fact that we are on page 3 of this thread is mind-boggling to me, but hey, anything's possible on the Boneyard...
I don't know either. I guess I'm just one of those who believes you get better by playing
I saw much of the same from Whitmer in game 1 and that was enough for me to say move on.
We just saw Whitmer against BYU. He was awful.
I don't know either. I guess I'm just one of those who believes you get better by playing and that redshirting and sitting a year and then stepping in next year won't make him a better player because he sat and watched.