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Should Azzi Start over Caroline?

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How about we start Caroline and Azzi and Christyn and Nika and Evina and then we can have Liv be first off the bench. :rolleyes:
 
Geno will go with the same starting lineup but play the players that ”have it going” that night, as Geno would say. Some teams have players that are just a bad matchup for some Huskies. If that Husky is having a off night, Geno now has enough options that he can find someone who’s on.
You are usually right. And Geno is pretty consistent with what he likes to do in first and third quarters. I think, however, that very soon AZZI has to be a starter. That Tennessee game was no fluke. And she is so much more than a shooter.
 
Pretty easy question, what do you want to dictate from the start of the game? Defensive intensity.
Conversely, what is one of the greatest of weapons to have off the bench? A shooter who can change the complexion and momentum of a game in a heartbeat.
I have no idea what will happen but IMO, Muhl continues to start and a shooter comes off the bench. It has nothing to do with who is “better”, it is what is best for the team. We shall see……….
 
You are usually right. And Geno is pretty consistent with what he likes to do in first and third quarters. I think, however, that very soon AZZI has to be a starter. That Tennessee game was no fluke. And she is so much more than a shooter.
She can be a starter next season. Regular season ends in 20 days. Probably not the time to start making changes to the line up and rotation unless a health situation requires it. If she's getting 25-30 minutes a game I don't think it matters.
 
I seriously doubt Geno is going to change his starting line-up (barring further injuries) until Paige returns at a high degree of her abilities. If Azzi continues to display her full potential, then he could move her into his starting 5 at tourney time. Although it's nice to have a big-time scorer coming off the bench, it's also great to repeatedly smack teams in the mouth immediately starting a game. Geno salutes loyalty, so I don't see him sitting a senior who has given her best for four years. I recall Caroline Doty (one of my favorites). He started her as a senior when she simply no longer had the abilities due to injuries. He rewarded her for all that she had given him throughout her career here.

Someone questioned if I had ever played the game, because I responded to a question as to who cares who starts. My response was, "the players". All athletes have ego. Starting in a team sport has been ingrained into our minds from the time we first began to play the game. Players (with equal or better talent) can accept a lesser role for the good of the team depending upon the situation. One of those might be, a four-year starter being left in the line-up. They can reasonably accept it as long as they are getting a fair amount of playing time. But ALL players worth their salt want to start!
 
Barring injury, Geno is not going to change the lineup just for the post-season.
 
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@HuskyNan - So what does that mean? Do you seriously think he's not going to start Paige if & when she's healthy?
 
Azzi lost a lot of playing time due to injury which Carol filled in for.
If not for the injury, Azzi may have very well become a starter.
Azzi was given priority PT before Carol early in the season, which may continue in the future.
Geno will have his reasons and his favorites depending on the team needs & circumstances.
I don't think that Geno wants to create any conflicts, and will strive to make everyone happy.
 
Barring injury, Geno is not going to change the lineup just for the post-season.
Agree. This is what my daughter's HS soccer coach did EVERY post season. He pretty much stuck with the same starting 11, and then used subs sparingly. Then, all of a sudden, he'd go all head gamey and change things up, and the team which usually had a 12-2 record or something like that, couldn't adapt and would get washed out in 1st round of state tourney. It was frustrating as hell, as we had coached a vast majority of these players in travel league, and couldn't figure it out, other than he wanted the season to be over so he could move on and coach his winter sport. SMH.
 
YES! YES! A million times yes! Azzi shoots a MUCH higher percentage, specifically .211 points higher from 3 and is able to involve other teammates into the game. Caroline doesn't. We fell in love with Caroline because she filled a void no one else could. Azzi is flat out a better player with much higher upside. Next season it will be a moot point, but if the goal this year is to win a national championship, Azzi gives a chance to do that that Caroline simply does not.

Since you're throwing percentages around, you must be aware that Caroline's 2pt shot is 14% more accurate than Azzi's? That their overall field goal success rate is only 3.5% different? That Caroline has a 25% higher assist rate than Azzi(involve other players)? A 2.1% better FT completion than Azzi's ridiculous 80%? A 30% higher rebound rate?

It's not measurable, but I think, at this point in their college careers, Caroline is a slightly better defender man-to-man.

Points ain't nearly everything and it's not a slam dunk which of these two very talented players contribution would be more valuable against a specific opponent.

But if points are everything to you, Azzi's points per minute rate is 88% of Caroline's. (.436 vs .495)
 
@HuskyNan - So what does that mean? Do you seriously think he's not going to start Paige if & when she's healthy?
If you don’t bold the name, you should be able to tag someone with our software. @NU2BY Start typing the @ then a few letters of the handle and the option of posters’ names should come up

Of course, Paige, but she should be back before then. But whatever lineup Geno uses in the preseason he will most likely stick with in the postseason, barring injury or illness
 
Since you're throwing percentages around, you must be aware that Caroline's 2pt shot is 14% more accurate than Azzi's? That their overall field goal success rate is only 3.5% different? That Caroline has a 25% higher assist rate than Azzi(involve other players)? A 2.1% better FT completion than Azzi's ridiculous 80%? A 30% higher rebound rate?

It's not measurable, but I think, at this point in their college careers, Caroline is a slightly better defender man-to-man.

Points ain't nearly everything and it's not a slam dunk which of these two very talented players contribution would be more valuable against a specific opponent.

But if points are everything to you, Azzi's points per minute rate is 88% of Caroline's. (.436 vs .495)
I just care about who the better player is and we all know for a fact that it's Azzi. All that matters to me is who is best able to help UConn win a national championship. I got news for you. It ain't Caroline. The only reason Caroline has played is because Azzi was injured. As far as all your stats go, they are a waste of time and worthless. Let's get a larger sample from Azzi before we try to get cute with the numbers.
 
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I'm not sure that Carol will continue scoring at such a torrid pace.
As the team has matured, others are beginning to step up which may impact how many shots Carol takes.
There will probably be player pairings that come in & out of the games to compensate for other scorers who are all key pieces.
Azzi & Carol have slightly different skill sets that do overlap, but Azzi seems to shoot better from the outside and Carol seems to have some better inside moves.
They complement each other and the whole team has the same goal.
Since they're not adversaries, the fans shouldn't be either.
Azzi has a lot of international experience playing with Team USA which shouldn't be held against her just because she sustained a nuisance injury.
Azzi needs more PT to get fine tuned, and Geno was also part of the Olympic circuit so he knows all about Azzi's skills and is sympathetic towards those selected.
And that's why he probably favored her from the beginning, along with what happens in practice and what he sees on the court during games.
Plus he listens to advice from his staff.
Not every player can become an All American, but Geno will help both of them try to become one.
The rest is up to fate.
 
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YES! YES! A million times yes! Azzi shoots a MUCH higher percentage, specifically .211 points higher from 3 and is able to involve other teammates into the game. Caroline doesn't. We fell in love with Caroline because she filled a void no one else could. Azzi is flat out a better player with much higher upside. Next season it will be a moot point, but if the goal this year is to win a national championship, Azzi gives a chance to do that that Caroline simply does not.
I disagree Azzi can shoot , but she should not start Caroline and Nika are stoppers. They are needed in the beginning of games to shut these other teams down, Azzi just is not close to either one at defense. It should be Paige , Caroline ,Nike , Christyn and ONO to start and the others of the bench when the game slows down, this is a better balance. The teams with more than one big post player has to be dealt with differently, but we have the players to handle them. Defense first, stop there minds , then take it to them offensively . Paige is the last cog to fit in the machine. go get them UCONN.
 
If you don’t bold the name, you should be able to tag someone with our software. @NU2BY Start typing the @ then a few letters of the handle and the option of posters’ names should come up

Of course, Paige, but she should be back before then. But whatever lineup Geno uses in the preseason he will most likely stick with in the postseason, barring injury or illness
Thanks for the tip, but I liked bolding the name. However, I now see why I shouldn't. Sorry.
 
As far as all your stats go, they are a waste of time and worthless.
Wow. This is extremely rude...

Azzi shoots a MUCH higher percentage, specifically .211 points higher from 3
Here you use a very specific stat that suits your opinion but...
Let's get a larger sample from Azzi before we try to get cute with the numbers.
...you say this a couple posts later. "Hi Kettle? This is Ag, you're black"
 
Since you're throwing percentages around, you must be aware that Caroline's 2pt shot is 14% more accurate than Azzi's? That their overall field goal success rate is only 3.5% different? That Caroline has a 25% higher assist rate than Azzi(involve other players)? A 2.1% better FT completion than Azzi's ridiculous 80%? A 30% higher rebound rate?

It's not measurable, but I think, at this point in their college careers, Caroline is a slightly better defender man-to-man.

Points ain't nearly everything and it's not a slam dunk which of these two very talented players contribution would be more valuable against a specific opponent.

But if points are everything to you, Azzi's points per minute rate is 88% of Caroline's. (.436 vs .495)
Good stuff. Do you have an ETA of the stats spreadsheet post UT?
 
Since you're throwing percentages around, you must be aware that Caroline's 2pt shot is 14% more accurate than Azzi's? That their overall field goal success rate is only 3.5% different? That Caroline has a 25% higher assist rate than Azzi(involve other players)? A 2.1% better FT completion than Azzi's ridiculous 80%? A 30% higher rebound rate?

It's not measurable, but I think, at this point in their college careers, Caroline is a slightly better defender man-to-man.

Points ain't nearly everything and it's not a slam dunk which of these two very talented players contribution would be more valuable against a specific opponent.

But if points are everything to you, Azzi's points per minute rate is 88% of Caroline's. (.436 vs .495)

I see it's already updated....Thanks!!
 
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I just care about who the better player is and we all know for a fact that it's Azzi. All that matters to me is who is best able to help UConn win a national championship. I got news for you. It ain't Caroline. The only reason Caroline has played is because Azzi was injured. As far as all your stats go, they are a waste of time and worthless. Let's get a larger sample from Azzi before we try to get cute with the numbers.
Do you know the difference between an opinion and a fact? You stated your opinion that that Azzi is a better player but “we” don’t all know that.

Stats are a wast of time and worthless? Only because you don’t like them. :rolleyes:
 
This won’t happen but I would use Paige as the PG with both AZZI and CD. Paige can penetrate, score and pass. Either Azzi or CD can score. CW, EW, Nika off the bench if defense becomes an issue.
 
I would start Liv, Dorka, Caroline, Paige, and Azzi if they all were healthy to this point. However, I would bring Paige and Azzi off the bench at least through the end of the regular season, maybe into the sweet 16. This would be my five to end a close gamer.
 
You stated your opinion that that Azzi is a better player but “we” don’t all know that.

"We" all do know it. It's just that some of us don't want to admit it.

It seems that due to the stubbornness of some, that this topic could be debated well past where it should be. Because of my overwhelming maturity I am going to drop this conversation for now. I don't have a deep seated compulsion to get the last word on a subject. I do reserve the right however, to return to this topic in a couple of weeks with a well deserved and earned, "I told you so." ;)
 
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