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Paige at point also largely relegates KK and Chen to the bench.

This was issue from last year, Nika was a pure pass first point, so if Paige played point where did Nika play?

Paige off the ball gives most flexibility to get most out of the whole team.

Plus the offense is very flexible, plenty of options to have Paige and even Sarah show up at point for a posession.

What Paige at point does offer, however, this year is a big positionless lineup of Paige, Azzi, Ash, Aubrey, Sarah with Morgan as #6. Interesting, but I'm not sure we will see this one.
 
Or maybe have Paige the best point guard in the country actually play as the point bgustd
I would actually like to see that at times. Paige sees the floor unlike anyone else in the country. She will not waste a break by dribbling it away like our PGs do too often.
 
…but in my opinion Bueckers should be the PG
This is a recurring idea, and I get it. But I’m not sure Geno’s offense really depends on the PG in the way this thought presupposes. I mean, which of the various PG responsibilities are we thinking of when we say this? I can think of a few on offense and defense.

1. Bringing the ball up the court and maybe even breaking the press
2. Initiating the half court offense
3. Distributing the ball off dribble penetration
4. Initiating the transition offense
5. Making sure there’s court balance on the offensive end in case there’s a turnover
6. Guarding the opposing PG

I’ll stop there. Paige can clearly do all of these. And with typical PGs, if they pass the ball and it doesn’t result in an immediate score, the offense may stall until the ball is back in their hands. This is a natural sentiment I can understand. I think we all feel like we want the ball back in Paige’s hands as soon as possible. At least we used to feel that way until Sarah came along and Azzi returned.

Also if Paige is given all of these assignments, it might limit her on both ends of the court. For example, as PG we might not want her to shoot from the corner or drive the baseline, since it would take her out of defensive balance. And if we have her guard the opposing PG exclusively, it might sap some energy that could be used defending in the lane or on the wing.

Obviously this a question of balance and compromises have to be made. In the 1st quarter of this game Paige spent the first 5 mins guarding Jada Eads as if she were a PG and it was quite effective. And she stayed mostly at the top of the key and Handed Eads off to Azzi or Kaitlyn. But at other times, she guarded Faith or Messiah Hunter and switched between the wing and the 4. When Geno put Morgan and Sarah in the frontcourt, Paige switched with everyone, 1-5. There’s good reason to think this is Geno’s most effective defense, but he’s clearly experimenting with having Paige defend the point.

On offense, and in response to SHU’s press, Paige often brought the ball up the court alongside Azzi, KK or Kaitlyn, and this makes sense since they are the best ball handlers. And Paige did initiate and distribute as PG would, but she also took several shots from the wing or drove into the lane. The 3-woman game with Azzi and Sarah was very effective early on and was often initiated from the wing In the first half. With Ash on the floor instead of Azzi, these same patterns were visible.

All in all, the PG position appears to be dissolved among several players — Kaitlyn, KK, Paige, Morgan, even Sarah — and I’m not sure how much sense it makes to think Geno should reconstitute the traditional form of the point guard.
 
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Not a lot to add ...

Congrats to Paige for reaching 2,000 points. She'll probably finish in the top 5 in UConn history.

My local girl Azzi looked really good, both defending and scoring. The ball goes from her hands through the net in no time at all.

Sarah came back from her first single-digit game and made 20+ look easy.

Ash played hard, grabbed loose balls, and made shots.

Aubrey can still beat everyone down the floor. What a weapon! It was great to see her back.

Great ball movement and shooting. Plus lock-down defense. Pretty much everyone looked good. Beating a solid team by 60 is crazy.
 
Some thoughts on the Seton Hall game;
  • In the words of Dorothy and Geno, “There’s no place like home!”
  • UConn WBB is steeped in history. Today there was more UConn history as Paige became the fastest player to reach 2,000 pts, in just 102 games, 6 games faster than Maya. Paige is the embodiment of perseverance and she has been an absolute joy to watch.
  • In 2019 I was in awe seeing Aubrey light up the scoreboard as well as the stat sheet in her last 4 HS games, all of which were played a short drive from my home. Seeing her on the court again following yet another major injury, playing against her mom & dad’s alma mater was wonderful. I suspect that I wasn't the only UConn fan to get emotional when Aubrey sprinted down the court on the break in the 4th qtr, catching a pass in stride for a fastbreak layup. :)
  • I know there was some concern expressed on the BY about UConn’s 3-pt shooting. In today's game the Huskies were 17/32 (53%). Nuff said… :cool:
  • There are times when UConn’s ball movement is mesmerizing for fans as well as opposing defenses. The sequence during the 2nd qtr when every UConn player touched the ball as it was fired around the court, ultimately ending up in Ice’s hands for an easy layup, was a thing of beauty.
  • After a somewhat quiet game vs St John's, Sarah was back to being Sarah with 23 pts (9/11) and 11 rebounds while giving Faith Masonius fits (3/15 with 9 turnovers). In fairness, Sarah did get some help on Masonius as both Morgan & Aubrey took a turn hounding the Pirate’s leading scorer.
  • Today's game was the first that we've really seen UConn's 3-headed monster with Paige, Azzi & Sarah combining for 59 pts. Here we come.....:eek:
  • Villanova is up next for the Huskies, also at Gampel. Good luck to the Wildcats in trying to slow down these Huskies at home….:confused:
Additionally,If I did my math correctly our non-starters “bench” accounted for 34% of the total points.
 
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I think Bozzello (sp?) used it as a teaching moment. UConn is the yardstick other Big East teams use to measure themselves by
I agree with you because I posted this earlier in this thread about SH pressing in the 4th quarter "I guess the coach, who I like, was running a practice using UConn as his practice players."
I believe that the post of mine that you replied to was me responding to someone that commented on my earlier post.
Clear as mud?
 
Watching the game today, I love what I saw. The Big 3 (Sarah, Paige, & Azzi) were on point! The supporting cast did their part and looked pretty decent there. You can see the growth in the player's game. For example. I have been on record with being on the fence about Morgan. Over the last 5-6 games, I am impressed. She has a high motor and not afraid to get into the paint. She had some nice plays out there today. Huge shoutout to Morgan. Also, I love that we are going deep with the bench. This is going to pay dividends down the road.

Way to go, Huskies!!
 
We have actually started to look decent in games even with Paige, Sarah, and Azzi on the bench. That wasn't the case earlier this season. We had no ability to score with 5 bench players in the game. That looks like it has changed.
 
Congrats to Jana El Alfy on taking less than 10 games to figure out which way to bang the game opening jump ball. Well done. And a shoutout to another freshman, Morgan Cheli, she just gets it. I knew her BB IQ and fundamental skills were better than most incoming freshmen but at the rate she's adjusting to the physicality and pace of play, by tournament time she is going to be a serious factor in the short rotation. Nothing bothers her and she plays her butt off.
I noted to myself how many times that I saw Morgan Cheli on the
court floor after diving after loose balls. A "HUSKIE" looking for
a "Bone". IMPRESSIVE! Go Girl, GO!!!
 

Amid all the fanfare, UConn put together its best performance of the season against Seton Hall. The Huskies dominated from the jump and never let up en route to a 60-point win — their largest margin of victory since 2020-21.
The Huskies also made some a key tweak on the offensive end.

“The last couple days of practice, we slashed our offensive playbook a lot. I think there were way too many things to choose from,” Auriemma said. “We gave them a bar menu instead of the whole dinner menu. We just scaled it down to four or five things that we wanted to do and just stuck with those the entire game. I think that the confidence and the flow comes from that.”

As a result, UConn put up its second-highest point total of the season — despite scoring just 12 points in the fourth quarter with its reserves running the show.

“I think less is more sometimes,” Bueckers said.
 
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I don't think she should be trying to finish or even thinking about finishing. Get the ball up court to Azzi, Paige or Sarah and now Aubrey and sometimes Morgan all of whom know how to get ahead of the defensive rebound. Problem is neither Chen nor Arnold are true point guards and KK is still trying to do what she did in high school and Chen is trying to do what she did last year. I'm not being critical, just realistic. Nika would average 12 assists a game with this team.
Some might argue that the more players that are a threat, the less pressure there is on the few that shoot. Thus, everyone gets better shots.
 
when will other Big East teams be competitive? 2nd place Creighton lost to UCLA by 29.
They never will be. UConn will end up moving to a power 4 but even there you only have a handful of great teams out of 14-16 teams. Money will only maket gap between the good and the bad teams widen and unfortunately that is where the sports world is headed.
 
Azzi and Sarah a playing fantastic basketball right now. The are both not hesitating at all on offense and both doing and excellent job on defense. To me Sarah is the Player of the Year and Freshman of the Year in the Big East and that lead seems to be growing as the season moves into the second half.

Paige on the other hand to me has another gear that she can still move up to when she needs to. Yesterday she flexed a little bit of her game but I think she will have to do a lot more in the tournament and I am confident she will. Yesterday the big three scored 59 playing half the game, that is pretty amazing.
 
They never will be. UConn will end up moving to a power 4 but even there you only have a handful of great teams out of 14-16 teams. Money will only maket gap between the good and the bad teams widen and unfortunately that is where the sports world is headed.
Kind of off-topic, but with the court rulings and the NCAA's (and also the court's) mandate to honor the splitting of money evenly between men and women, it will be hard for many of these smaller schools to maintain any sort of athletic department beyond a handful of sports.
 
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Some might argue that the more players that are a threat, the less pressure there is on the few that shoot. Thus, everyone gets better shots.
Disagree. No one gets a better shot when the point guard is dribbling instead of passing. If you think that KK or Chen keeping the ball by dribbling and trying to force instead of passing up ahead on a break somehow creates better shots for anyone else on the team I strongly dispute that. If the break gets pushed by passing, with the offensive talent on this team, you neutralize the post issue that we have and create open shots. As I pointed out above, a slight advantage by the offensive player after receiving the ball leads often to a drive or great shot by our Triple Threat and Ash also.
 
I subscribe to the view that nothing is ever as bad or as good as it seems at the time. Having said that, though, this was a great effort by the entire team in the "piranha on a roast" mode. So important for Q to see a shot go in!:)
The final score of the game to which you refer (Sweet 16 in 2016 against Vic Schaefer's Mississippi State team) was 98-38 as I recall, remarkably similar to yesterday's final score.

Of course, Mississippi State was a much better team than Seton Hall.
 
Not a lot of analysis here. The Huskies shot lights out and were relentless defensively. Seton Hall was way out of their element early.

I didn’t think Sarah played badly against St. John’s. Today, though, she reminded us again what an All-American looks like. I was surprised and I should not have been that she got the assignment to guard Masonius.

He would never do it but Geno could sub hockey style. How many Big East games could Arnold, Shade, Cheli, Brady and Aubrey win as a starting five?

I thought Allie and Q took advantage of their playing time.
I don't think we should undervalue Alli. She is learning the defense and beginning to play it well. She is a fine passer and has a high BB IQ. Her shooting is at the top level. Once she stops being humble and shy, she can blossom into a star.
 
I’ve got to say, Ash is a warrior in the paint going for rebounds. She boxes out really well and fights off bigger players, often tipping the ball to a teammate. She’s listed as 5-10 in the roster but I think that’s generous.
What I don't think I have ever seen commented on is that Ash, besides being maybe the best Husky at boxing out (Morgan is very good also), also has spring in her legs, probably due to her training while in high school.
 
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Not a lot of analysis here. The Huskies shot lights out and were relentless defensively. Seton Hall was way out of their element early.

I didn’t think Sarah played badly against St. John’s. Today, though, she reminded us again what an All-American looks like. I was surprised and I should not have been that she got the assignment to guard Masonius.

He would never do it but Geno could sub hockey style. How many Big East games could Arnold, Shade, Cheli, Brady and Aubrey win as a starting five?

I thought Allie and Q took advantage of their playing time
We gotta..er...umm... yeah, that. Maybe...whatever...
What’s your solution to the problem, then?
IWell, how about the "Catholic 7" who split off from the original BE to form their own basketball-only conference step up by investing in their future by increasing the funding of the womens' basketball programs and players including their women's basketball facilities and at a minimum to match the investment from all sources in the mens' basketball programs.

 
One thing I noticed was all the bruising on Ms Cheli body. I know a couple of them (bruises) were from cupping, but damn the girl must love contact
I didn’t see Morgan’s bruises but I did see a bunch of them on Sarah’s upper arms. She’s constantly being grabbed but they can’t stop her

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I don't think we should undervalue Alli. She is learning the defense and beginning to play it well. She is a fine passer and has a high BB IQ. Her shooting is at the top level. Once she stops being humble and shy, she can blossom into a star.
I agree. It's about the defense for her playing time as you note. Allie has a very fluid, effortless shot and she has several moves and shots in her repertoire. If she wants to get on the floor she has to get down on the floor like Morgan. She can be a very big weapon in the right circumstance.
 
I agree. It's about the defense for her playing time as you note. Allie has a very fluid, effortless shot and she has several moves and shots in her repertoire. If she wants to get on the floor she has to get down on the floor like Morgan. She can be a very big weapon in the right circumstance.
I don't think anyone underestimates Alllie. She may very well end up being a future All-American with that shooting stroke.

Morgan just has advantage this year as a 'glue player' being able to defend 1-5.

When next year's team is a core of KK, Ash, Morgan and Alllie mixing in stars like Sarah and ?., Allie will really shine, as she is also a complete basketball player.

I've said before if end of my bench is Allie and Q, I feel pretty good about the team.
 
I rewatched a highlight video of the game and that buzzer beating three at the end of the 3rd quarter by Allie is really remarkable. It may be the best catch and shoot I’ve ever seen. She moves into position and shoots as she falls away from the hoop. It isn’t rushed. It’s a settled move. This is definitely the kid who impressed her HS coach by shooting (and logging) 1,000 shots a day each summer.
 
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