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hoopsfan22 said:
If she wants to be semi-close to home and be the #1 big on her team while getting the best education (depending on major), then ND makes the most sense. If she wants the best coaching available to become the best basketball player she can be because that's her intended career, then UConn has the edge.
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Just a shame that all of us UConn grads have had to struggle through life with a sub-standard education. Fortunately, I can have all these posts read to me.;)
 
JonathanXIV said:
Just a shame that all of us UConn grads have had to struggle through life with a sub-standard education. Fortunately, I can have all these posts read to me.;)
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:eek: yea but... the ND grads can afford to pay someone to read it to them.
 
I don't want to start a NEW post on this but I was just thinking this wek I haven't seen a post from @bags27 for a long time. Hopefully he's ok! What is the word? Thanks!
 
CocoHusky said:
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It is times like these when I miss @bags27 because as a former college professor at an Ivy league institution he would remind us all that an education is what you make of it. However... the position that there is only a "marginal" difference in education between ND and UCONN (for the general/average student ) is an untenable one. As politically incorrect as this may sound Sedona will be majoring in basketball at which ever school she chooses, therefore UCONN is a superior choice. :D
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Yes Bags would settle this argument. I too have always made the case that outside of a school’s alumni network and endowment, you get out what you put in. For the record US News rates ND #18. UConn ranks lower at #63, but still in the upper 20% of all US universities.

As far as UConn being a basketball university, I suspect Geno and Chris Daily would object strenuously. Maybe we should ask Molly Bent how she feels about that characterization.

Finally, I will acknowledge that UConn’s top WBB players come to Storrs primarily for basketball, which is exactly the same reason why ND’s players go to South Bend. In fact, outside of Stanford, there’s not a major D1 program where academics are the primary concern of top basketball recruits.
 
oldude said:
Yes Bags would settle this argument. I too have always made the case that outside of a school’s alumni network and endowment, you get out what you put in. For the record US News rates ND #18. UConn ranks lower at #63, but still in the upper 20% of all US universities.

As far as UConn being a basketball university, I suspect Geno and Chris Daily would object strenuously. Maybe we should ask Molly Bent how she feels about that characterization.

Finally, I will acknowledge that UConn’s top WBB players come to Storrs primarily for basketball, which is exactly the same reason why ND’s players go to South Bend. In fact, outside of Stanford, there’s not a major D1 program where academics are the primary concern of top basketball recruits.
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Well I definitely did not (nor would I Ever) say this or characterize UCONN this way: " A basketball university".
 
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pvdoggy said:
I am curious, what does it mean to opt out of the BY?
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To not actively post, reply, disagree, agree, chop it up, hit the like button or not, check on your BY point total....
 
CocoHusky said:
To not actively post, reply, disagree, agree, chop it up, hit the like button or not, check on your BY point total....
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OK thanks. I thought somehow there is a way to delete yourself from the BY that I am not aware of. What the heck does BY points do for a person anyway? Why would you want more of it?
 
pvdoggy said:
OK thanks. I thought somehow there is a way to delete yourself from the BY that I am not aware of. What the heck does BY points do for a person anyway? Why would you want more of it?
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:eek:OMG!
1) Because BY points are convertible to others forms of currency.
2) For the same reason you keep score during a basketball game. How else would you determine a winner? :D
 
hoopsfan22 said:
Our academic peers are more like Texas and Penn State, while ND's is more like Rice and Wash U in St Louis. Different league for sure. Again depends on major, but in general terms. If she's majoring in basketball then UConn has the advantage. In terms of proximity to home, DFW to Storrs is a 5-6 hour journey all in. Probably a little more than half that to ND.
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Just a slight correction. Sedona lives just north of Austin so she would fly out of Austin Bergstrom airport. Add an hour to your travel time.
 
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CocoHusky said:
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It is times like these when I miss @bags27 because as a former college professor at an Ivy league institution he would remind us all that an education is what you make of it. However... the position that there is only a "marginal" difference in education between ND and UCONN (for the general/average student ) is an untenable one. As politically incorrect as this may sound Sedona will be majoring in basketball at which ever school she chooses, therefore UCONN is a superior choice. :D
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I can pinch hit for @bags27, as another former professor from an Ivy League institution. Yes, education is what you make of it. The top schools provide access to better resources, and importantly, a peer group that inspires you to succeed. Then you have a network that can help you through life. Same story with UCONN and basketball - better resources, great peer group, a reputation of excellence and a family of former players, many excelling at the very pinnacle of the game. You can still make it from other institutions but ....
 
Topdawg said:
I can pinch hit for @bags27, as another former professor from an Ivy League institution. Yes, education is what you make of it. The top schools provide access to better resources, and importantly, a peer group that inspires you to succeed. Then you have a network that can help you through life. Same story with UCONN and basketball - better resources, great peer group, a reputation of excellence and a family of former players, many excelling at the very pinnacle of the game. You can still make it from other institutions but ....
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UCONN stars go on to do pretty well in WNBA. And the really legendary ones, if you aspire to be so, are now getting jobs in the NBA not to mention broadcasting and coaching in womens game. Great recruiting material.
 
Topdawg said:
I can pinch hit for @bags27, as another former professor from an Ivy League institution. Yes, education is what you make of it. The top schools provide access to better resources, and importantly, a peer group that inspires you to succeed. Then you have a network that can help you through life. Same story with UCONN and basketball - better resources, great peer group, a reputation of excellence and a family of former players, many excelling at the very pinnacle of the game. You can still make it from other institutions but ....
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I miss Bags. :(
 
Topdawg said:
I can pinch hit for @bags27, as another former professor from an Ivy League institution. Yes, education is what you make of it. The top schools provide access to better resources, and importantly, a peer group that inspires you to succeed. Then you have a network that can help you through life. Same story with UCONN and basketball - better resources, great peer group, a reputation of excellence and a family of former players, many excelling at the very pinnacle of the game. You can still make it from other institutions but ....
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This pinch hit was a home run!
 
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I'm not feeling good about our chances. No special reason. Just doubt. Hope I'm wrong. I know I claimed her but.....
 
So let’s assume Prince chooses UConn, what do we have on the court. Does she split time with ONO? Do they both start? If they do, who sits? If Danger, Walker and CW are given, who gets the other two slots? What if the Tennessee transfer gets a waiver? Does she start? An interesting problem. Makes for a deep bench.
 
Shaffer0011 said:
So let’s assume Prince chooses UConn, what do we have on the court. Does she split time with ONO? Do they both start? If they do, who sits? If Danger, Walker and CW are given, who gets the other two slots? What if the Tennessee transfer gets a waiver? Does she start? An interesting problem. Makes for a deep bench.
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Prince will have played very little in over a year by the time the season starts. Even assuming she's given a waiver to play this season and is healthy enough to do so, she'd probably be coming off the bench. She's still just a freshman as well.
 
CocoHusky said:
This pinch hit was a home run!
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Your response too was out of the ball park. Few arguing over ND, Stanford, Uconn, etc see the point you delivered. College at any institution is as much or as little as YOU make of it. Add to that your 9th inning homer was--(paraphrasing) Basketball players are in these schools to enhance their skill set for Europe or the W. Not too shabby!! Points I wish I used but shall remember.
 
Sluconn Husky said:
Prince will have played very little in over a year by the time the season starts. Even assuming she's given a waiver to play this season and is healthy enough to do so, she'd probably be coming off the bench. She's still just a freshman as well.
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Rare players ever walk into Geno's studio of artistic excellence as a starter. Z comes readily to mind: Skilled, experienced, div One ready but not exactly as Geno foresaw her play. That goes for 5 new players. If anyone of them starts we will know we have an exceptional player or she's the current best.
 
Shaffer0011 said:
So let’s assume Prince chooses UConn, what do we have on the court. Does she split time with ONO? Do they both start? If they do, who sits? If Danger, Walker and CW are given, who gets the other two slots? What if the Tennessee transfer gets a waiver? Does she start? An interesting problem. Makes for a deep bench.
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Just my ignorant opinion: I suspect if Prince is game ready she will initially split time at the center with ONO In practice they will be developing a High Low game. OnO and Prince will both need some protection from overplaying and fouls until both prove they may play full games without more than 3 fouls. Some thing I prayed for these past 4 seasons.
 
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BroadwayVa said:
Just my ignorant opinion: I suspect if Prince is game ready she will initially split time at the center with ONO In practice they will be developing a High Low game. OnO and Prince will both need some protection from overplaying and fouls until both prove they may play full games without more than 3 fouls. Some thing I prayed for these past 4 seasons.
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Unfortunately it is the rare freshman forward indeed that gets an abundance of PT anywhere at a top 10 D1, but at UConn they're Unicorn's. Let's not forget, not only has she not had a freshman year so that she's lacking in experience, but not having played for so long means her conditioning is suspect. That alone will limit her PT anywhere.
 
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Posts take longer to develop. I don't see Prince and ONO splitting time. I see ONO getting 25+ MPG and Prince getting 15- MPG. Plus Prince is coming off an injury. She broke both bones in her leg (tibia and fibula) and I'm guessing (not a DR) it was pretty serious.

If she comes to UCONN and is eligible from day 1, she will be eased in IMHO. I could see her with <10 MPG her first year. But if she comes on gangbusters, I could actually see her and ONO on the court together.

Anyone know what one of our best defensive lineups was? It was Stewie, Stokes, and Dolson, Size, strength, athleticism, experience, and talent. ONO and Prince have different skills and offensive games so I could see them coexisting like the aforementioned 3 did. Or you want a current example, Cambage and Wilson.

Anyway when was the last time UCONN had too many post players? It's not a stretch to answer that as "never".
 
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Shaffer0011 said:
What do you all think about how the facilities affect incoming recruits. Gampel is a special place, but the XL Center is awful, old, and decrepit. It is not a recruitment advantage IMO.
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I didn't realize the players had to sit in the stands, walk the halls for concessions and bathrooms, park their car and find the right exit. What does matter is 10,000 fans show up in the XL Center to root them to victory and allows their NYC alumni/fans the ability to see them....:D
 
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It seems to me that Geno has a selling point with Prince (and any other post players that he recruits for 2020 or 2021) that no other coach can match. Any front court player should be salivating about the quality of passes that she will get from Chrystyn, Paige, Evina, Nika, and Anna over the next few years (and Crystal if the post player will be playing in 2019-20).

No one else will have that quality or quantity of passers to feed the post in the next few years.
 
JoePgh said:
It seems to me that Geno has a selling point with Prince (and any other post players that he recruits for 2020 or 2021) that no other coach can match. Any front court player should be salivating about the quality of passes that she will get from Chrystyn, Paige, Evina, Nika, and Anna over the next few years (and Crystal if the post player will be playing in 2019-20).

No one else will have that quality or quantity of passers to feed the post in the next few years.
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I feel we owe it to Rebecca Lobo to also point out that the best post entry passes come from another BIG, so Prince should expect some lovely dimes from Liv as well.
 
DefenseBB said:
I didn't realize the players had to sit in the stands, wall the halls for concessions and bathrooms, park their car and find the right exit. What does matter is 10,000 fans show up in the XL Center to root them to victory and allows their NYC alumni/fans the ability to see them....:D
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They don’t, but family and friends do. I think the facilities, location, ease of travel, hotels all play a small role. Her family will need to travel to see her play if she chooses UConn. Hartford is not easy to get to from any town USA. Sometimes it is the little things they push a decision one way or the other.
 
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