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Okay so we're 16-18 points behind this supposed holy trinity of WCBB this season (SC, Baylor, Oregon). Can we make up this deficit come NCAAT time? I sure believe we can even if Geno at this moment doesnt think so. I refuse to be a Debbie Downer and go along with this next season this and that nonsense. There is still basketball to be played and time to figure it out. I stand by my conviction that we can pull off something special in March. Not letting go of this season until the final whistle or buzzer goes off. Go Huskies!!! #alwaysbleedUCONNblue
 
One of the three, Baylor, Oregon, or SC will lose before they get to the Final Four. I believe it can be counted on. For some reason, UConn has made a number of teams look better than they actually are.
 
Some interesting stats not just of tonight's game, but of all 5 of the top-25 ranked opponents that CT has played this season:

First off, your top players this season have been Walker, Williams, Dangerfield, and Nelson-Ododa. They are your team's top scorers. In the other 18 games other than DePaul, Baylor, Tennessee, Oregon, and South Carolina, the offense has been:

Walker: 20.6 ppg (.500) FG%
Williams: 16.4 ppg (.496) FG%
Dangerfield: 14.7 ppg (.489) FG%
Nelson-Ododa: 11.6 ppg (.544) FG%

In the 5 top-25 games:

Dangerfield: 19.8 ppg (.456) FG%
Walker: 13.4 ppg, (.317) FG%
Williams: 10.0 ppg, (.318) FG%
Nelson-Ododa: 9.4 ppg, (.500) FG%

Dangerfield is a first-class warrior. A true leader as a senior should be. When the games get tougher she steps up her game. Unfortunately for whatever reasons both Walker and Williams have faded in the top games of the season.

Also, I look at Walker's production efforts in the games:

DePaul: 10-20 FG, 1-3 3PFG, 22 pts, 13 reb, 7 ast, 0 blk, 0 stl
Baylor: 5-20 FG, 3-8 3PFG, 18 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast, 0 blk, 2 stl
Tennessee: 3-15 FG, 2-5 3PFG, 9 pts, 6 reb, 1 ast, 0 blk, 1 stl
Oregon: 3-16 FG, 2-9 3PFG, 8 pts, 7 reb, 3 ast, 0 blk, 2 stl
South Carolina: 5-11 FG, 0-4 3PFG, 10 pts, 8 reb, 3 ast, 0 blk, 1 stl

Walker took 40 shots against DePaul and Baylor and scored a total of 40 pts in those games, but only took 42 shots in the next 3 games, scoring 27 total points

Williams' production is similar:

DePaul: 6-15 FG, 1-4 3PFG, 13 pts, 11 reb, 1 ast, 0 blk, 1 stl
Baylor: 8-17 FG, 0-5 3PFG, 21 pts, 9 reb, 1 ast, 0 blk, 0 stl
Tennessee: 4-14 FG, 0-1 3PFG, 9 pts, 7 reb, 0 ast, 0 blk, 3 stl
Oregon: 2-9 FG, 1-3 3PFG, 5 pts, 4 reb, 0 ast, 0 blk, 0 stl
South Carolina: 1-11 FG, 0-1 3PFG, 2 pts, 5 reb, 2 ast, 1 blk, 1 stl

Stronger efforts in the first 2 games, with 32 shots and scoring 34 total points, but only 34 shots in the next 3 games, scoring a total of 16 points in those games.

I think the issue right now is leadership in the bigger games, when there's a greater attrition. Beyond Dangerfield of course....
 
enigmatic said:
Okay so we're 16-18 points behind this supposed holy trinity of WCBB this season (SC, Baylor, Oregon). Can we make up this deficit come NCAAT time? I sure believe we can even if Geno at this moment doesnt think so. I refuse to be a Debbie Downer and go along with this next season this and that nonsense. There is still basketball to be played and time to figure it out. I stand by my conviction that we can pull off something special in March. Not letting go of this season until the final whistle or buzzer goes off. Go Huskies!!! #alwaysbleedUCONNblue
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If the team's own coach genuinely doesn't believe that the team is capable, the battle is over before it's begun.

It's always been Geno's MO to motivate players by facetiously saying things like "You'll never __" or "You're the worst __ in the country," This year, I don't get the sense that he's being facetious.
 
I though Liv all around played pretty well tonight. She forced Boston into five three pointers, she came into this game with zero attempts.

Much different from Oregon (at times) and Baylor games where I felt Liv pretty much got dominated, but then again, she was only going up against a freshman.
 
Carnac said:
Congratulations to Dawn Staley, her team and all of Gamecock Nation. I have nothing to add to what other posters are saying. We all saw the game. We all saw the same thing. I've said this before, I'll share it one last time this season: "When people or teams show you who they are, believe them".

After the first 10 minutes, the Huskies were never quite in the game. This exposed a cold hard truth, at this point of the season, or perhaps this year overall, THIS UConn team isn’t quite able to compete with or beat the country’s elite teams. On to South Florida on Sunday.
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Which brings up another question! Will the coaching staff be able to get this team’s confidence back in time to beat South Florida? You know they are going to smell blood in the water. The Huskies better bring a better attitude and forget tonight’s debacle or one of the most amazing records in Women’s Basketball history could fall!
 
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SCGamecock said:
You have been unnecessarily spicy lately. This will probably be my last time responding to anything you post.
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I apologize if it didn't come across well, but surely you can appreciate that your message doesn't either.
 
Plebe said:
If the team's own coach genuinely doesn't believe that the team is capable, the battle is over before it's begun.

It's always been Geno's MO to motivate players by facetiously saying things like "You'll never __" or "You're the worst __ in the country," This year, I don't get the sense that he's being facetious.
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Be that as may be, he still has to coach the rest of the season and go along with what happens. I'm not going to frustratingly wane over our adversities and I'm sure not going to surrender my optimism. I understand everyone is flustered, frustrated, or whatever it is they're feeling and feel free to differ its okay but I'm not giving up on this group.
 
No worries Plebe. It's always good to be made aware of the rules which I bypassed.
 
oldude said:
Several BY'ers have responded to my question with the same basic answer, “Anyone.” Here’s why I think that’s a bad idea.

Clearly Christyn had a bad game. The options to replace her were the freshmen, who played like deer in the headlights, or any of the other bench players (Kyla, Molly, Evelyn or Touly). IMO, it would have been unfair to any of the bench players to throw them to the wolves. What exactly is gained by, say, putting Kyla out there when she cannot possibly match up against the speed and athleticism of SC?

I think Geno had to stay with Christyn, let her experience all the bad that comes from playing badly in a loss, and hope that the bad taste that comes from it reaches into her heart, allowing her to find a new level of play she didn’t know she had in her.
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Next year will be interesting. If Paige is the point guard, Westbrook could be the two guard. Her sophomore year was certainly better. Nika is also not planning on playing mop-up minutes.
 
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enigmatic said:
Be that as may be, he still has to coach the rest of the season and go along with what happens. I'm not going to frustratingly wane over our adversities and I'm sure not going to surrender my optimism. I understand everyone is flustered, frustrated, or whatever it is they're feeling and feel free to differ its okay but I'm not giving up on this group.
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Well, I do appreciate and envy your optimism -- I need more of that in my life lol! Of course I want this team to get better and fulfill its potential, compete with confidence and end on a high note. Let's hope it happens.
 
Beginning with unrealistic expectations is sure to result in disappointment. Bottom line, that is what most fans and even the media did with respect to this present Uconn team. The same was done with CW and the overestimation of her abilities played a major role in the unrealistic expectations of the team.
 
oldude said:
Several BY'ers have responded to my question with the same basic answer, “Anyone.” Here’s why I think that’s a bad idea.

Clearly Christyn had a bad game. The options to replace her were the freshmen, who played like deer in the headlights, or any of the other bench players (Kyla, Molly, Evelyn or Touly). IMO, it would have been unfair to any of the bench players to throw them to the wolves. What exactly is gained by, say, putting Kyla out there when she cannot possibly match up against the speed and athleticism of SC?

I think Geno had to stay with Christyn, let her experience all the bad that comes from playing badly in a loss, and hope that the bad taste that comes from it reaches into her heart, allowing her to find a new level of play she didn’t know she had in her.
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Not sure why Makurat tonight and Ono in some past games can “earn” the bench but Williams needs to stay on the court to “find a new level of play” when she plays as poorly as she did tonight on both ends of the court.
 
Centerstream said:
Yup, Geno shot 36%, had a bunch of turnovers, etc.
Yup, it's on Geno. :rolleyes:
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Not referring to this game but to the team competitiveness. Talent level just isn’t up to levels to compete with the top 4 or 5 teams in the country.
So now we’ll look forward to the NCAA as an under dog probably from the elite 8 on. I’ll still route for them and wins will be that much sweeter. They are certainly capable to win those games but unlike previous years they’ll be underdogs particularly if they get to the final four. Geno is the best in history of the woman’s game and he’s probably already begun planning how get his team in the best position to win.
 
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Plebe said:
Well, I do appreciate and envy your optimism -- I need more of that in my life lol! Of course I want this team to get better and fulfill its potential, compete with confidence and end on a high note. Let's hope it happens.
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No need to envy but I do appreciate the appreciation ;) for my optimism. It's just how I dont let myself get disappointed in life and stay in a positive focus in general. But anyway, I wholeheartedly have accord with you that I want us to get better and reach the roof of our potential. The peak is there but were struggling to ascend and yes confidence is one of those factors. If we fail to reach the top then all I can say is we did what we could. Let's just hope we can go as high as we can.
 
Rblack335 said:
Dangerfield again carried the team offensively. I wish she could knock down some shots at the start of big games to settle things down for everyone else. But this performance should help get her name on the wall.

Walker played a bit better tonight but she isn’t a player that is capable of carrying a team. Last year she was a solid role player, and I think that’s where she is most comfortable.The most frustrating thing is her decision making. She has to be better.

The perplexing player to me is CW. Last year she had a huge game at ND, hit some threes down the stretch against Baylor, and was a major reason why we got to the final four. She even played well against ND In the final four. So this year I thought she was going to have a first team AA type campaign. She looked ready to play huge early against Baylor, but her season long shooting woes have seemingly crumbled her self confidence. A true finesse player, she gets completely taken out of games by her own confidence and others physicality. I hope she can figure it out because to me she is the difference.

Now that we have faced our big tests, my eyes say this is an elite eight team. I think they have the pieces to make a run, but it doesn’t look like they have the belief.
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C.W. Seems tired and lethargic. She doesn’t appear to be playing with the passion she displayed in her freshman year and her shot is definitely off. She wasn’t on campus most of the summer working out with her team mates. She seemed to go from tourney to tourney. To much basketball? If she doesn’t get her act together, she could lose her starting job to one of the incoming freshmen. Could it be something else?
 
Man we are so spoiled.Several fellow posters thought we would lose 3 or 4 games this year,including me,and that target has been reality,and all three teams we have lost to were or are number 1.All three teams have a roster with more experience,and have proven on any given night they can dominate.We have lacked the killer instinct most of the year,and it is what it is.However,whether we march through the tournament or not,there is little doubt that,in my opinion,that with Westbrook we may have different opinions of how we are this year.That was a huge loss in points put up with this team,with the rythym of the offence.I am expecting this present team to still get through the rest of the season in good standing,and maybe a surprise or two coming up in their favor.
Next year,the sun will be shining more brightly,and more exciting.But I would hope we do not give up on this team until the very end of the season.
 
DaBball said:
I though Liv all around played pretty well tonight. She forced Boston into five three pointers, she came into this game with zero attempts.

Much different from Oregon (at times) and Baylor games where I felt Liv pretty much got dominated, but then again, she was only going up against a freshman.
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Did not hurt that when Aliyah made her first 3, she probably thought she was Katie Lou . Still, I thought Liv was really competing. Especially on defense
 
In virtually all comments; 10 pages worth,
The coaching staff gets a virtual mulligan.

Do they bare no responsibility for the team's (sadly) consistent failure against
top teams?

I'm sure...even if we give them a pass; they are agonizing over their efforts.
 
msf22b said:
In virtually all comments; 10 pages worth,
The coaching staff gets a virtual mulligan.

Do they bare no responsibility for the team's (sadly) consistent failure against
top teams?

I'm sure...even if we give them a pass; they are agonizing over their efforts.
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or the coaching staff decided not to show Baylor, SC and OR our best plays in preparation for the FF. ;):rolleyes::oops:
 
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Reypl21 said:
Which is a spot they dont deserve and will probably not have the opportunity to earn. That two seed is typically the best 2 seed. I think UConn is a 3 seed. If they get the 4th one seed, the committee would be protecting them IMO
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The committee has protected Tennessee for the last 4 years by putting them in the tournament just to keep their streak going!
 
I think that we should blame everybody for this year: coaches, and players. I also noticed that people have been picking on Crystal especially. Well......great players play great surrounded by great players.....like Kia Nurse, Gabby Williams, Napheesa Collier, and Katie Lou Samuelson. Glad that she had that opportunity. Easier to coach as well.

Game is over folks. Now they have to play vastly inferior teams for the rest of the season until they are defeated in the Tourney.

This is what I have to say about that.
 
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oldude said:
Several BY'ers have responded to my question with the same basic answer, “Anyone.” Here’s why I think that’s a bad idea.

Clearly Christyn had a bad game. The options to replace her were the freshmen, who played like deer in the headlights, or any of the other bench players (Kyla, Molly, Evelyn or Touly). IMO, it would have been unfair to any of the bench players to throw them to the wolves. What exactly is gained by, say, putting Kyla out there when she cannot possibly match up against the speed and athleticism of SC?

I think Geno had to stay with Christyn, let her experience all the bad that comes from playing badly in a loss, and hope that the bad taste that comes from it reaches into her heart, allowing her to find a new level of play she didn’t know she had in her.
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From her own mouth she learned From the Oregon game!
 
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