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OT: Sarah Strong and FIBA U 18 Women's Americup 2024 games start Monday

Syla was on the senior qualifying team - do you mean Savvy? I'm not sure where she or Toby are - they aren't on the 3X3 team, either

On edit: Toby Fournier was born 10/3/05 and at 18 years old is too old for the U18 team (Under 18, for anyone who may not know what the U stands for)
Savannah "Savvy" Swords' birthday is 2/7/07
Syla Swords was born 1/28/06 and is 18 years old

Savvannah Swords' date of birth is January 18, 2008, she is U16 age, a little embarrassing that the Basketball Canada site displays the wrong date of birth. They made the mistake of repeating the same date as Marie Grace Talle. The best way to find out a player's date of birth is to type her name into a search engine and complete it with FIBA Profile. If she took part in a FIBA event, you're sure to get the right date. As for Savvy Swords, she should be with the U17 team at this summer's world championship.



There are two notable absentees for Canada, Syla Swords and Avery Howell, who is currently training with the senior team. You're right about Toby Fournier, she was born in 2005, as was Delaney Gibb (#77 ESPN class 2024). On the American side, the best players in the ESPN 2024 class who were born in 2005 and are not eligible are: Jaloni Cambridge, Allie Ziebell, Morgan Cheli, Maskenly Randolph and Olivia Olson. I couldn't find the dates of birth of Mikayla Blakes and Justice Carlton.



We're led to believe that if an athlete is in the same class as a player present at the championship, so are the others in the same class. The classes we have in the ESPN rankings are those of their entry into university, on the FIBA side its age on January 1st, in the case of this year's U18 the oldest players who can play at the Americas Championship were born on January 1st 2006. The best example of how this can be misleading is Sidney Douglas, who is in the class of 2028, yet she is the same age less than ten days behind Olivia Vukosa and Jerzy Robinson, yet when Sidney Douglas starts her freshmen season, the other two will be entering their third year.



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Savvannah Swords' date of birth is January 18, 2008, she is U16 age, a little embarrassing that the Basketball Canada site displays the wrong date of birth. They made the mistake of repeating the same date as Marie Grace Talle. The best way to find out a player's date of birth is to type her name into a search engine and complete it with FIBA Profile. If she took part in a FIBA event, you're sure to get the right date. As for Savvy Swords, she should be with the U17 team at this summer's world championship.



There are two notable absentees for Canada, Syla Swords and Avery Howell, who is currently training with the senior team. You're right about Toby Fournier, she was born in 2005, as was Delaney Gibb (#77 ESPN class 2024). On the American side, the best players in the ESPN 2024 class who were born in 2005 and are not eligible are: Jaloni Cambridge, Allie Ziebell, Morgan Cheli, Maskenly Randolph and Olivia Olson. I couldn't find the dates of birth of Mikayla Blakes and Justice Carlton.



We're led to believe that if an athlete is in the same class as a player present at the championship, so are the others in the same class. The classes we have in the ESPN rankings are those of their entry into university, on the FIBA side its age on January 1st, in the case of this year's U18 the oldest players who can play at the Americas Championship were born on January 1st 2006. The best example of how this can be misleading is Sidney Douglas, who is in the class of 2028, yet she is the same age less than ten days behind Olivia Vukosa and Jerzy Robinson, yet when Sidney Douglas starts her freshmen season, the other two will be entering their third year.



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Sarah Strong (through 4 games):
  • Minutes: 15.3 (7th)
  • EFFscore: 20.0 (1st)
  • Points: 9.3 (6th)
  • Rebounds: 9.3 (1st)
  • Assists: 3.3 (3rd)
  • Steals: 2.3 (Tie 1st)
  • Blocks: 0.8 (Tie 8th)
  • Turnovers: 1.0 (Tie 6th)
  • 2 Pt %: 70% (2nd)
  • 3 Pt %: 36.8% (4th)
  • FT %: 100% (1st)
  • FGA: 7.3 (Tie 6th)
Game 5: USA vs Argentina - Semi-Finals (Saturday, June 22 6:40pm)

Game 4: Quarter-Finals: USA vs Dominican Republic: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 3: USA vs Mexico: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 2: USA vs Puerto Rico: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 1: USA vs Brazil: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |
That efficiency score is first overall in the Americas under 18 tournament, which considering that some players (on other teams) were in the upper 20's in minutes is amazing. Probably the best overall measure is Efficiency/MPG. There Sarah is once again the standout. There were a few US players that had a higher efficiency rating pg than minutes, but the spread was highest for Sarah..
 
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Catching up on the thread while I wait for the game to start... should be around 6:40pm Eastern.

 
sarah already with 5 rebounds :eek: she might have a double double before the half at the rate she’s going.
 
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6 points (3/8 FG, 0/2 3-PT), 9 rebs, 2 steals, 1 assist in 14-1/2 mins
 
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Final score 109-32, Sarah was a little off today. USA only hit 1 three out of 19 attempts and still won by 77.
 
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Sarah Strong (through 5 games):
  • Minutes: 15.1 (8th)
  • EFFscore: 18.4 (2nd)
  • Points: 8.6 (6th)
  • Rebounds: 9.2 (1st)
  • Assists: 2.8 (4th)
  • Steals: 2.2 (3rd)
  • Blocks: 0.6 (Tie 9th)
  • Turnovers: 1.0 (Tie 4th)
  • 2 Pt %: 62.5% (3rd)
  • 3 Pt %: 33.3% (2nd)
  • FT %: 100% (1st)
  • FGA: 7.4 (Tie 6th)
Game 6: Canada vs USA - Final (Sunday, June 23 9:10pm)

Game 5: Semi-Finals: USA vs Argentina: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 4: Quarter-Finals: USA vs Dominican Republic: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 3: USA vs Mexico: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 2: USA vs Puerto Rico: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |

Game 1: USA vs Brazil: Overview | Boxscore | PlayByPlay | ShotChart | GameStats | Photos | Videos | News |
 
How about a PROSNOSTICATION Contest?
Here is the team comparison brought to you by FIBA:
Points per game: Canada 87.6 USA 109.4 Rebounds C 57 USA 65.4
Assists C 15.8 USA 26 two point % C 45.2 USA 57.1
three point % C 30.7 USA 27.6 Free throws C 55.7 USA 63.9
WOW... we're behind in 3 point % = DOOMED!
One head to head for another reference USA 97 to 51 over Brazil ( first game of
the Tournament) Canada 85 to 46 ( yesterday in the Semi-finals ). So:
USA 85 Canada 52 MOV 33! The difference? Strength of Roster and Dominance
of HEIGHT!
 
What I am loving about Sarah's game so far, she lets the game come to her rather than forcing things. Coach Auriemma recruits so well! I mean, we all have seen so many players who are deemed the "Top of their recruiting class" go out in whatever summer event and are forcing shots to the tune of 20-25 attempts on 6-8 makes just because they feel like they are the top recruits and gotta show up the other "top" recruits. Sarah just goes about her game. She will give you 8/8 or 10/12 and just goes with the flow. I love players like that. They can read a room and figure out really quick the dynamics of the situation and do things that help a team. Sarah is that player.
 
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What I am loving about Sarah's game so far, she lets the game come to her rather than forcing things. Coach Auriemma recruits so well! I mean, we all have seen so many players who are deemed the "Top of their recruiting class" go out in whatever summer event and are forcing shots to the tune of 20-25 attempts on 6-8 makes just because they feel like they are the top recruits and gotta show up the other "top" recruits. Sarah just goes about her game. She will give you 8/8 or 10/12 and just goes with the flow. I love players like that. They can read a room and figure out really quick the dynamics of the situation and do things that help a team. Sarah is that player.
If she doesn't really contribute offensively, like yesterday, she'll still be force under the basket for rebounds and stealing the ball. Love a 3+ way player like that.
 
I know in the semi-finals Sarah's shooting was a little off (that does not worry me in the slightest) but she really did contribute in other ways. She is going to FIGHT for boards, initiate the break with great outlet passes, and be there for the trailing three. If there is a half court set she will be setting hard screens and forcing teams to double her in the post if they don't want her to score an easy bucket (she is going to get so many O boards from what I have seen so far). She is so smooth on the court and that is his biggest gift for someone at 6'2 with her physicality.
 
How about a PROSNOSTICATION Contest?
Here is the team comparison brought to you by FIBA:
Points per game: Canada 87.6 USA 109.4 Rebounds C 57 USA 65.4
Assists C 15.8 USA 26 two point % C 45.2 USA 57.1
three point % C 30.7 USA 27.6 Free throws C 55.7 USA 63.9
WOW... we're behind in 3 point % = DOOMED!
One head to head for another reference USA 97 to 51 over Brazil ( first game of
the Tournament) Canada 85 to 46 ( yesterday in the Semi-finals ). So:
USA 85 Canada 52 MOV 33! The difference? Strength of Roster and Dominance
of HEIGHT!
I'm on Summer break, so there will be no Prognosticator's Predictions. There is another head to head that I think is more glaring, USA vs Mexico 115 - 20 a +95, while Canada vs Mexico 66 - 58 a +8. I believe that the USA win will be closer to 50 in the Gold medal game.;)
 
The broadcast for the USA-Canada game just started. Currently they are showing the pregame stuff.

 
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It was 36-36 as the half was winding down, and then Edwards hit a long 3.
To be honest it was the best thing she's done this game, she has not impressed me at all especially with her attitude and demeanor on court.

Also I am not sure what the coaches are thinking. Having Sarah and Heckel play less minutes than Lee combined, when they have been the clear best players for the US in the tournament so far, is an interesting decision on their part.
 
It feels like Canada is out-competing USA so far. Or maybe just speeding us up? Sarah played 6 mins in the half for 3 assists and a nice sneaky-hands tap steal near the end of 1Q. No rebounds yet for Sarah, surprisingly.
 
It’s very interesting to see the different approaches of Edwards and Strong. Edwards is more aggressive and less prone to pass. Sarah is a vocal leader and calls out the sets, and is also seeing the floor a step ahead. Quick hands. Nothing wasted or forced.
 
So what's the excuse for Strong playing 10 minutes in the gold medal game whereas the starters got 26, 29, 36, and 36?
 
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