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Sarah a finalist for the Cheryl Miller Award

YKCornelius said:
Glad to see Sonia Citron on the list. My favorite player on the Irish. Not flashy, very good in all phases of the game. Sharp basketball mind. Will definitely be playing pro somewhere.
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Love Citron myself (but not in Green). Somewhat like Sarah in that she just goes about her business with no fanfare, and facial expression never changes, much less smiles
 
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Charliebball said:
Booker is likely to win it although I'd take Strong over the other finalists any day of the week........
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oldude said:
I don’t know. Citron is a strong candidate and the only senior of the group, which may or may not count for some votes.
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You guys drinkin'?

Sarah is "The Natural"- conceived at mid-court, right in the jump ball center circle.

That's her award. -)
 
leepaul said:
You guys drinkin'?

Sarah is "The Natural"- conceived at mid-court, right in the jump ball center circle.

That's her award. -)
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Come back and see us when Sarah wins. ;)
 
Sarah is averaging more points, rebounds, and assists, than Booker. AND Sarah has a better shooting percentage than Booker as well.
Steve Mcgarrett Tani Rey GIF by CBS


Also Pierre was good enough to be a finalist for this award, but was snubbed for any all SEC team?

Fix It Real Housewives GIF
 
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Hayven said:
Sarah is averaging more points, rebounds, and assists, than Booker. AND Sarah has a better shooting percentage than Booker as well.
Steve Mcgarrett Tani Rey GIF by CBS


Also Pierre was good enough to be a finalist for this award, but was snubbed for any all SEC team?

Fix It Real Housewives GIF
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I believe Booker is likely to be a first-team All-American and if that's the case it would be difficult to not give her this award too.......like I said, I'll take Sara any day, but I have a feeling the voters will stick to the script........as always with my predictions....I'll be very happy to be wrong.....
 
I would give it to Sarah. But I have already seen some boosts for Texas due to being the number 1 team in the country.

Rori Harmon made the top 5 on the point guard list. I think that is crazy.
 
How many on this list are actually ’small forwards’? Maybe I’m not sure what a small forward is anymore.
 
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Charliebball said:
I believe Booker is likely to be a first-team All-American and if that's the case it would be difficult to not give her this award too.......like I said, I'll take Sara any day, but I have a feeling the voters will stick to the script........as always with my predictions....I'll be very happy to be wrong.....
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I see that Madison BOOKER has 480 total points, averages 6.5 rb/g, 48 stl, 16ppg
Sarah has 500 total points, 7.9 rb/game, with 73 steals and 16.1 ppg, also 46 blocks.
But consider Khamil Pierre, 6'2", sophomore from Vanderbilt! She has started 29/29 with 602 total points, 9.6 rb/game, 87 steals, and 20.8 PPG with a FG % of 50.7 %!!
Sarah FG% is 58.4 % (208/356) for comparison. Then Sonia Citron may get
extra points as the only senior on this list. If Sarah wins more of the FRESHMAN OF
THE YEAR awards, she might not be in the true running for small forward THIS YEAR!
 
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35.6%? That doesn’t sound right.

And the more i think about it, the only SFs appear to be Sonia and Mikayla. Sarah and Khamil look like PFs and Booker looks like an SG.
 
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I think Sarah is totally a small forward. That’s what she will play in the wnba and ideally it would be her best position in college basketball. UConn is a bit thin in the front court and due to that thinness… she has played more power forward and more center this season.
 
Bone Dog said:
35.6%? That doesn’t sound right.

And the more i think about it, the only SFs appear to be Sonia and Mikayla. Sarah and Khamil look like PFs and Booker looks like an SG.
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THANKS FOR THE CORRECTION!! I had the right number of
baskets and attempts and then TOOK THE NUMBER OF ATTEMPTS (356)
AS THE % ... IE. 356 ATTEMPTS is not 35.6% If it sounds unlikely... it probably is!!
I should have known better... I just went on automatic pilot. It
is remarkable when you fail to "process" what you are looking at.
It reminds me of my bookkeeping errors!!
 
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Topdawg said:
Your numbers, my math.
208/356. = 58.4%.
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Much obliged for your correction... THANKS! I took the number of attempts
(somehow) as the %: attempts 356 is not 35.6 % FG %
I should slow down and smell Sarah's "rosy" stats!
 
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Bone Dog said:
How many on this list are actually ’small forwards’? Maybe I’m not sure what a small forward is anymore.
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You have a great point about this.

I looked on the LSU website, you know the official LSU Athletic Department website, then drummed down through to the Women's Basketball section, and eventually the Roster; low and behold Mikaylah Williams is listed by her own team as a 'guard'.

FightingIrish.Com, the official website for Notre Dame, roster section, also lists Sonia Citron as a 'guard'.

The others three are all at least listed as 'forwards' by their own team's official publications.

Geew1992 said:
The coaches nominate the players. So it's whatever the coaches think.
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Does Niele Ivey nominate her player, Citron? Kim Mulkey nominates her player, Mikayla Williams? Or is that some kind of a pool of coaches who handle the "Cheryl Miller Award" selection committee that nominates those players?

Either way, in my view Bone Dog is correct, some of these players are not forwards. At least according to the athletic departments at their respective universities they are not.
 
Geew1992 said:
The coaches nominate the players. So it's whatever the coaches think.
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No kidding. But it still makes you wonder. I mean, the coaches are interested in getting an award for their kids as much as reflecting the accuracy of some aging position designation.
 
Dugway said:
You have a great point about this.

I looked on the LSU website, you know the official LSU Athletic Department website, then drummed down through to the Women's Basketball section, and eventually the Roster; low and behold Mikaylah Williams is listed by her own team as a 'guard'.

FightingIrish.Com, the official website for Notre Dame, roster section, also lists Sonia Citron as a 'guard'.

The others three are all at least listed as 'forwards' by their own team's official publications.


Does Niele Ivey nominate her player, Citron? Kim Mulkey nominates her player, Mikayla Williams? Or is that some kind of a pool of coaches who handle the "Cheryl Miller Award" selection committee that nominates those players?

Either way, in my view Bone Dog is correct, some of these players are not forwards. At least according to the athletic departments at their respective universities they are not.
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My understanding is the players are nominated by their own coaches. So yes, Mulkey nominated Williams.

Gabby won this award a few years back.
 
yhun89 said:
It's either Pierre or Sarah. Booker has choked on most big games this season. Sarah and Pierre thrived.
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K. Pierre, 6'2", with 16 points and 14 rebounds in Vandy's win today (THURSDAY)
in the second round of the SEC Tournament over TENNESSEE: 84 - 76. She had 3 fouls early and then fouled out with seconds left in the game.
 
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oldude said:
I don’t know. Citron is a strong candidate and the only senior of the group, which may or may not count for some votes.
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I like Citron a lot........watched her play in high school and stated here years ago that Geno needed to recruit her.......still, I view her as more of a guard than a forward.......
 
Sarah to me is the best of the group and her freshman status shouldn't be a consideration. How many of the others have her stats? Can play as many positions? and only played about half the minutes in most of the games against the cream puffs? To me when it is all said and done she will have a lot of the records at UConn.
 
Charliebball said:
I like Citron a lot........watched her play in high school and stated here years ago that Geno needed to recruit her.......still, I view her as more of a guard than a forward.......
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The award may go to Citron, the only senior in this group, but the only
meaningful stat in which Sonia beats all the other Finalists is Free Throw %: 89.4 %.
Sarah is #2 right being Sonia in 3-point shooting 38.2 % for Citron to
Sarah's 37.0 % (Booker leads in the 3-pointer shooting % at 41.7 %). Sarah beats her in FG % (58.4 to 49.6), scoring (16.1 ppg to 14.2 ppg), A/To ratio (2.07 to 1.5), Steals (73 to 52) and Blocks (46 to 24). To my mind K. Pierre 6'2" of Vandy is the real competition at 20.8 ppg, 9.6 rb/g, and
87 Steals. In that particular match up Sarah beats K. Pierre in FG% (58.4 to
50.7%), Three point % (37% to 22.2%), Free Throw % (74.1 % to 66.7%),
A/TO (2.078 to 1.33) AND block shots: 46 for Sarah 8 for Pierre. Pierre however
played to two fewer games than SARAH: 29 to Sarah's 31. Pierre had
more points in fewer games: 602 points for Pierre, 500 for Sarah.... but
we all know that GENO took Sarah out of MANY/Most games when the
Huskies were well ahead. Interesting stuff... but the nod should go
to SARAH... GO SARAH! Freshman POY and Cheryl Miller Award winner!!
P.S. Sarah played 27.9 minutes per game. K. Pierre: 30.6 = 2.7 minutes more.
 
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Zarathustra said:
The award may go to Citron, the only senior in this group, but the only
meaningful stat in which Sonia beats all the other Finalists is Free Throw %: 89.4 %.
Sarah is #2 right being Sonia in 3-point shooting 38.2 % for Citron to
Sarah's 37.0 % (Booker leads in the 3-pointer shooting % at 41.7 %). Sarah beats her in FG % (58.4 to 49.6), scoring (16.1 ppg to 14.2 ppg), A/To ratio (2.07 to 1.5), Steals (73 to 52) and Blocks (46 to 24). To my mind K. Pierre 6'2" of Vandy is the real competition at 20.8 ppg, 9.6 rb/g, and
87 Steals. In that particular match up Sarah beats K. Pierre in FG% (58.4 to
50.7%), Three point % (37% to 22.2%), Free Throw % (74.1 % to 66.7%),
A/TO (2.078 to 1.33) AND block shots: 46 for Sarah 8 for Pierre. Pierre however
played to two fewer games than SARAH: 29 to Sarah's 31. Pierre had
more points in fewer games: 602 points for Pierre, 500 for Sarah.... but
we all know that GENO took Sarah out of MANY/Most games when the
Huskies were well ahead. Interesting stuff... but the nod should go
to SARAH... GO SARAH! Freshman POY and Cheryl Miller Award winner!!
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Hopefully, it's about more than the stats alone........how about which player has contributed the most to her team's success from her position at both ends of the court.......
 
Charliebball said:
Hopefully, it's about more than the stats alone........how about which player has contributed the most to her team's success from her position at both ends of the court.......
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The stat that may come closest to measuring that is WinShares, though even this doesn't tell the whole story. But if we're trying to comfort ourselves, Sarah is significantly ahead of the others in WS.

Sarah 9.0
Mikaylah 6.1
Khalil 7.0
Madison 6.9
Sonia 5.6

And just for context, the NPOY contenders are in the same range: Paige 9.1, Juju 8.2, Hannah 8.2
 
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