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I'm confused by his logic. It's bad that Solo is getting so many minutes because he's missing shots but it's also bad that Hurley doesn't give his freshman minutes to build their confidence.
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I'm confused by his logic. It's bad that Solo is getting so many minutes because he's missing shots but it's also bad that Hurley doesn't give his freshman minutes to build their confidence.
I’m in the camp with those who are plenty optimistic about the freshmen. Castle is going to be special. Hard to argue that. But I really think Solo is going to progress faster because of the extra mins he’s getting now. I also think he will thrive as a 6th/7th man when Castle comes back. As a starter, he’s out there with 4 experienced studs averaging double digits, 3 of whom know Hurley’s system very well and the 4th is an incredibly high IQ 5th year player who looks like he was born to be a husky. I guarantee Solo’s mandate right now in stepping into that 5th starting role is to do exactly what he’s doing- limit mistakes, be solid and find ways to contribute as the 5th option.
When he’s back on the bench, he’ll be able to talk with the coaches at the beginning of each game about what the opponent is doing, what exactly he needs to do when he gets in. He always seems just a little better after his first break on the bench- the game is still a little too fast for him, but he’s still showing flashes of good things.
Stewie seems like he’s solidly the 8th man when Castle is back. Outside of yesterdays game, when pretty much everyone had some garbage moments, I think he’s shown some really good flashes and moments of great playmaking, shot creation etc. again, he is clearly still learning our system and is more focused on not making mistakes. He needs time and he’ll get it.
7 games in feels way too early for this type of pessimism. I trust that these guys knew what they were signing up for when they came here, and for what it’s worth, Singare and Ross- who seem the most buried on the bench right now- are often the most exuberant in cheering on their teammates.
When he’s back on the bench, he’ll be able to talk with the coaches at the beginning of each game about what the opponent is doing, what exactly he needs to do when he gets in. He always seems just a little better after his first break on the bench- the game is still a little too fast for him, but he’s still showing flashes of good things.
Stewie seems like he’s solidly the 8th man when Castle is back. Outside of yesterdays game, when pretty much everyone had some garbage moments, I think he’s shown some really good flashes and moments of great playmaking, shot creation etc. again, he is clearly still learning our system and is more focused on not making mistakes. He needs time and he’ll get it.
7 games in feels way too early for this type of pessimism. I trust that these guys knew what they were signing up for when they came here, and for what it’s worth, Singare and Ross- who seem the most buried on the bench right now- are often the most exuberant in cheering on their teammates.
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That's an interesting take. In my view, Solo was thrust into a starting role and has been serviceable. His shooting percentage isn't good, but his foundations are strong and it looks like he belongs. The minutes and growing pains will only help down the road.
Stewart shows flashes, but will likely see some DNPs in the Big East. Ross and Singare just aren't ready, and that's normal. The assistant coaches are no doubt in their ears about the longer term plan.
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Karaban only played that much because there was no other choice. He played the most minutes on the team. It ended up working out that he did play that much. He also got to play without fear because there was no benching him.
Half this board was calling for more Clingan minutes throughout the year. You maybe being one of them.
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I completely agree that that’s how they’re being coached to play and I hate it.
It’s like neutering an attack dog. Then people wonder why these kids have confidence issues when they’re playing to not make mistakes instead of playing to make plays.
Everyone on the team should be held to the same standard.
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How do you know any of this to be true?
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I think Solo has a green light. Taking lots of shots and is good for one flash of "wow this guy is going to be REALLY good" per game. Yesterday it was when he took the ball off (I think) a block, and went coast to coast 1v4. Crossed over 2 guys and got to the rim for a layup. Got smacked in the face so he missed (no call), but that was crazy
I think Stewart is afraid to get pulled. Yesterday he passed up some open threes in the first. Then eventually he took and missed one, and sure enough got pulled immediately
Maybe just a coincidence with rotation timing, but I did notice that one
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Why are we talking like this 1 month into the season? Chill out.
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The funniest part is he's basically describing Calhoun with all these posts while saying Calhoun didn't do any of what he's describing.
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Here’s hoping our frosh are starting in the next two NCAA title games but I think the Fab 5 moniker needs to be retired like 30 years ago. It’s nearly impossible to live up to and not fair to them.
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You mean the same Calhoun that started two freshmen over guys who won National Championships the year before? You aren’t remembering how Calhoun treated talented players correctly.
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This thread is a waste of time. The freshman are playing like freshman. They said flashes and then weaknesses that they need to build on throughout the season.
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In some cases because those teams were thin and had no choice but to play them. Imagine there’s no portal, Solo is the starting SG by default. That is why that happened back then.
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It's also why Calhoun who is on the Mount Rushmore of College basketball coaches pretty much missed the tournament every fourth season.
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In his place, freshman classmate Solo Ball has stepped in and shown glimpses in valuable minutes on the court, but has yet to find consistent success with his shot. He’s shooting just 32% from the field and 20.7% (6 of 29) from beyond the arc.
“He really shoots the ball with us (i.e. practice), I think he’s really going to shoot the ball for this team this year. I think he’s pressing a little bit, things are still fast for him,” Hurley said. “But the fact that we’re getting 28 minutes, not a lot of mistakes, eventually I think the offense will come for him – especially the shooting. If you look at it, it’s a clean shot, it looks like it’s gonna go in, just hasn’t found that flow yet.”
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“He really shoots the ball with us (i.e. practice), I think he’s really going to shoot the ball for this team this year. I think he’s pressing a little bit, things are still fast for him,” Hurley said. “But the fact that we’re getting 28 minutes, not a lot of mistakes, eventually I think the offense will come for him – especially the shooting. If you look at it, it’s a clean shot, it looks like it’s gonna go in, just hasn’t found that flow yet.”
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I agree. Funny enough those years resulted in Championships all the same. It doesn’t take away from the fact that this narrative that freshmen have historically struggled and have not been ready is very false.
And kind of disrespectful to the history of just how well prepared are freshmen always were to make an impact.
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Glad we have a couch who's better at evaluating talent than the boneyard!In his place, freshman classmate Solo Ball has stepped in and shown glimpses in valuable minutes on the court, but has yet to find consistent success with his shot. He’s shooting just 32% from the field and 20.7% (6 of 29) from beyond the arc.
“He really shoots the ball with us (i.e. practice), I think he’s really going to shoot the ball for this team this year. I think he’s pressing a little bit, things are still fast for him,” Hurley said. “But the fact that we’re getting 28 minutes, not a lot of mistakes, eventually I think the offense will come for him – especially the shooting. If you look at it, it’s a clean shot, it looks like it’s gonna go in, just hasn’t found that flow yet.”
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Disappointed in the freshmen? It’s not even December yet. Some of u guys r nuts. I think they all are right where they are supposed to be. Think solo gonna be a good one. His handle better than I thought. Now only if his shot will fall. But that will come Why are we even talking about this. ?
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There was only 1 year he missed the tournament because the team was too young from what I remember.
The 09-10 team was actually really experienced. Funny enough, the “4th season” young team won a championship.
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Gotta start small. I'm glad nobody's calling him "Sampuel."
If Karaban is a projected first round draft pick after this season along with Clingan and Castle, you don't think he leaves?
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We were fine last year, we're fine this year, we'll be fine next year.
It's far far far far far too early to judge any kid. You would think all the Boneyard basketball scholars would have learned this by now
Kids will come and kids will go, there will be surprises both good and bad
Just appreciate what we have and stop worrying. Enjoy the ride people
And act like you've been here before, wherever that here may be, because whatever it is, we have been here before
It's far far far far far too early to judge any kid. You would think all the Boneyard basketball scholars would have learned this by now
Kids will come and kids will go, there will be surprises both good and bad
Just appreciate what we have and stop worrying. Enjoy the ride people
And act like you've been here before, wherever that here may be, because whatever it is, we have been here before
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Memories tend to be short here. Does anyone remember when Hawkins couldn’t even dribble? Last year if I remember we weren’t go to lose a game after the start, then the BE losing started and the rats started jumping off the ship. Kids learn, gain experience and get better.
Hurley understands that this is a work in progress heavily determined by health and player development.
I‘m never wanting to talk trash to other teams. the way I’ve seen lately in threads here, my theory is to try to enjoy the run and not get frantic when losses happen. Which they will, and our coaching staff knows how this works, best in the business.
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There were these guys named Rip Hamilton, Kevin Freeman, and Jake Voskuhl who played at UConn.
There was also this guy Caron Butler and his buddy Taliek Brown who played at UConn.
There was also these guys Jerome Dyson, Hasheem Thabeet, Marcus Johnson, Stanley Robinson, Curtis Kelly, Doug Wiggins.
I don't know why you create these wild arguments. Of course we've had freshmen who contributed greatly under Calhoun and under Hurley and of course most of them got better as sophomores.
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You know, Samson didn't "wait his turn." He was injured and unable to play which led to him losing his spot in the rotation.
The so called Fab Five are all healthy. They have to opportunity to win playing time but none (Castle excepted) has done so. Solo is merely a place holder for the injured Castle. It unlikely any will wait their turn if they are healthy and sit for two years.
The so called Fab Five are all healthy. They have to opportunity to win playing time but none (Castle excepted) has done so. Solo is merely a place holder for the injured Castle. It unlikely any will wait their turn if they are healthy and sit for two years.
It makes for better players down the road but I do understand the frustration.
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