RPI drops 20 places just stepping on court with CCSU.

[CTBasketball]

People actually think 23-11 in this conference is a lock to get in? Oh man what a joke.

This is UConn we are talking about. We win titles and are one of the premier programs of the game, we aren't some mid major who gets excited about limping into the tournament as a 10+ seed. Low seeds are embarrassing for elite programs.

I would say we're a premier program in March. Since 2008/2009, our seeding has been 1, NIT, 3, 9, None, 7, NIT.

 

[jibsey]

Cindy, SMU, Georgetown and Texas, these teams have big bruisers inside, not that Amida would have helped with that. That's why I don't understand not leaving Enoch out there as much as possible against a team we beat by 40 even if he makes defensive mistakes. Let him learn.

 

[upstater]

People actually think 23-11 in this conference is a lock to get in? Oh man what a joke.

This is UConn we are talking about. We win titles and are one of the premier programs of the game, we aren't some mid major who gets excited about limping into the tournament as a 10+ seed. Low seeds are embarrassing for elite programs.

No one knows what you're even talking about. Did anyone here express excitement at that? Do you even know what this discussion is about? We are talking about what it would take for UConn to be excluded from the tourney.

And by the way, you may have been asleep last year, but the former national champ was in the NIT!

 

[BUConn10]

I would say we're a premier program in March. Since 2008/2009, our seeding has been 1, NIT, 3, 9, None, 7, NIT.

And before that it was the exact opposite. People have serious short term memory when it comes to us, pure recency bias. Fans of other program always say UConn is good in March but disappointing in the regular season which is only a result of the last 5 years or so, now our own fans have this stuck in their heads.

Have we all forgotten the 90s and 00s? We dominated the regular season and since 1990 w have been a #1 or #2 seed 11 times, 12 if you include '11 where we won the title as a 3 seed. 11 times in the 20 season from 1990 to 2009. Now get that "we are a streaky postseason team" bs narrative that has gotten out of hand lately out of here.

 

[4in16]

This team is also much better than last year, way better offensively and still can improve defensively A.B. (After Brimah). Last part from Borges, haha.

 

[Hi-Low]

30-7), This is why SMU was left off, though they deserved to be in (by the way, SMU was not even ranked).

I think you might have gotten SMU 2013 confused with last year's SMU team, which was ranked. Last year's SMU team obviously made the NCAA.

SMU 2013-2014 ranked #25 in March 10 AP poll, #23 in Coaches poll...ranked as high as #18 in Coaches poll March 3.....No NCAA bid.

 

[BUConn10]

No one knows what you're even talking about. Did anyone here express excitement at that? Do you even know what this discussion is about? We are talking about what it would take for UConn to be excluded from the tourney.

And by the way, you may have been asleep last year, but the former national champ was in the NIT!

It's funny that my post that no one apparently understood caught your eye, the person who made the original claim that we are going "23-11 and that its more than enough to get in". First off I don't see how you got 23-11, in guessing a total shot in the dark. Also the fact that you are so confident that it will be enough to safely get into the dance is perplexing to me.

And yes I'm aware we were in the NIT last year, how does that change the reality of what I said regarding where we NEED to be. Don't be so complacent with mediocrity.

 

[upstater]

SMU 2013-2014 ranked #25 in March 10 AP poll, #23 in Coaches poll...ranked as high as #18 in Coaches poll March 3.....No NCAA bid.

Good to know that a 10 loss team was ranked in the top 25.

But still only 3 games against the P5, and they lost both games to the teams in the top 50 of the RPI. No OOC Top 50 RPI wins.

 

[upstater]

It's funny that my post that no one apparently understood caught your eye, the person who made the original claim that we are going "23-11 and that its more than enough to get in". First off I don't see how you got 23-11, in guessing a total shot in the dark. Also the fact that you are so confident that it will be enough to safely get into the dance is perplexing to me.

And yes I'm aware we were in the NIT last year, how does that change the reality of what I said regarding where we NEED to be. Don't be so complacent with mediocrity.

I still can't figure out your post. No one is complacent. This is about reality. Someone pointed out that UConn has a string like this since 2010. Not preferred outcomes. Seriously, why is it hard to understand.

I also laid out how UConn gets to 10 losses. 1 in championship game of tourney, 1 loss to Cincy, 1 to SMU, 1 to Tulsa, 1 to Memphis, 1 WTF loss, and 1 to Texas.

More than good enough for the tourney.

 

[CTBasketball]

And before that it was the exact opposite. People have serious short term memory when it comes to us, pure recency bias. Fans of other program always say UConn is good in March but disappointing in the regular season which is only a result of the last 5 years or so, now our own fans have this stuck in their heads.

Have we all forgotten the 90s and 00s? We dominated the regular season and since 1990 w have been a #1 or #2 seed 11 times, 12 if you include '11 where we won the title as a 3 seed. 11 times in the 20 season from 1990 to 2009. Now get that "we are a streaky postseason team" bs narrative that has gotten out of hand lately out of here.

I'm aware of our past success. But we've also have been ranked inside the Top 25 about 15% of the time since 2012. Been ranked inside the Top 10 one week in that time span. We've mainly lulled around the 18-25 ranking except for a few weeks.

It doesn't change the fact that seeding is entirely dependent on your season. Since Calhoun left we're a streaky team in the regular season - no one can deny that. I think the better argument here is that it will be difficult to maintain our post-season success with such mediocre regular seasons in a non-P5 conference.

 

[intlzncster]

What pains me is that anyone ever used this particular stat for anything. I think people now understand its limitations a bit better, I hope that has led to it not being used by the tournament committee,

They still use it.

 

[UconnFanDC]

Beat Texas and georgetown, no more then 3-4 losses in the conference and we have no worries! Merry Christmas

 

[Hi-Low]

Beat Texas and georgetown, no more then 3-4 losses in the conference and we have no worries! Merry Christmas

Yes, I think we all agree...if we beat good teams we'll be in. By the same token, if we played More good teams our margin for error is greater. Point was quite simply to call out lack of creativity in our non-conf schedule (3 America East teams, etc.) while we play in AAC conf, a 2 - 3 bid conference....hope that puts a bow on it....Merry Christmas!

 

[upstater]

Beat Texas and georgetown, no more then 3-4 losses in the conference and we have no worries! Merry Christmas

3 or 4 losses would be fantastic. They've had 9 losses (last year) and 7 losses in the national championship year. I can't see how this team limits it to only 3 or 4 losses.

 

[champs99and04]

I think people on this board dramatically overstate the relevance of RPI. Yes, it matters, but the committee is still comprised of humans, and even if you could argue that the league has been shafted a bit in recent years, there are a ton of factors that come into play, and the totality of the resume always supersedes outdated computer metrics.

Being in the AAC, you're going to have to beat teams OOC to get into the tournament as an at-large. Our current resume is a lot closer to what Cincinnati's was last year (losses to Ole Miss, Xavier, Nebraska, and VCU, wins over San Diego State and N.C. State) than what SMU's was in 2014. And it isn't as if Cincinnati dominated the conference - they went 13-5 with a loss in the quarterfinals of the AAC Tournament, and yet still, they were comfortably in.

The bubble should be harder this year, so I'm definitely not going to be comfortable on selection sunday if we have ten losses. This is still UConn, though, and if we miss the tournament entirely, I'll be hard pressed to blame the committee. This is a team that has won and will continue to win games. And, although we're currently 2-3 in our legitimate OOC games, we're also a +18 in those match-ups. That should enhance the BPI or whatever other nonsense metric ESPN uses.

 

[NEforceUConn]

It just doesn't matter.

Corrected it for you.

 

[mauconnfan]

Beat Texas and GTown go 12-6 0r 11-5 all will be fine.

 

[pnow15]

AAC had a good football season. The league is gaining in national credibility. Let's see if this translates to BB respect.

 

[intlzncster]

AAC had a good football season. The league is gaining in national credibility. Let's see if this translates to BB respect.

Without an AAC rep on the Committee, I highly doubt it. Really need someone in the room lobbying your interest.

 

[CTBasketball]

AAC had a good football season. The league is gaining in national credibility. Let's see if this translates to BB respect.

Money talks my friend.

 

[David 76]

Do you even know what this discussion is about? We are talking about what it would take for UConn to be excluded from the tournament

Kinda, but I think it is about what playing teams ranked over 300 does to our status

 

[David 76]

It's loyalty. If Howie requests for his team to play us we oblige if we can. What's RPI amoung family?

Tom as well. They need our help every now and again.

Agree . Now explain the other 3 games.

 

[Rocktheworld]

Anyone catch during the first possession of the 2nd half, Central had the ball, missed, and as the rebound went up, the announcer said Brimah would have surgery "in about 20 minutes"?

20 minutes
Dham 11th triple double 11/11/11 on the 11th game of the season
Facey's first double double

Any kind of RPI drop is worth that kind of mojo.

 

[Stainmaster]

Anyone catch during the first possession of the 2nd half, Central had the ball, missed, and as the rebound went up, the announcer said Brimah would have surgery "in about 20 minutes"?

20 minutes
Dham 11th triple double 11/11/11 on the 11th game of the season
Facey's first double double

Any kind of RPI drop is worth that kind of mojo.

Facey actually got his first against CCSU in last year's game

 

[uconnfan68]

AAC had a good football season. The league is gaining in national credibility. Let's see if this translates to BB respect.

And crapping their pants in bowl games. That's what the media will make sure is the most important thing to temember.

 

[intlzncster]

Any kind of RPI drop is worth that kind of mojo.

You mean an RPI drop by 20 places?

It's probably a good thing.

 

[CTBasketball]

And crapping their pants in bowl games. That's what the media will make sure is the most important thing to temember.

That's probably the most important thing...if you can't show up in bowls it says something about the level of competition in your conference.

 

[upstater]

That's probably the most important thing...if you can't show up in bowls it says something about the level of competition in your conference.

Bowl season is silly season. Bowl games mean almost nothing. Taking a bunch of 20 year olds down to Florida over Christmas for 2 weeks makes for a funny sort of preparation. I've seen countless upsets during bowl season.

If you want to really look at the relative strength of leagues, look at the victories during the season. Wins over SEC West Champ Ole Miss, Penn State, Louisville, Miami FLA, etc. I'm no more impressed by the teams that beat AAC teams so far than I am by the AAC's pretty good showing the 2 years before.

Wait until the New Year's Bowl games, because teams play those a lot harder.

 

[CTBasketball]

Bowl season is silly season. Bowl games mean almost nothing. Taking a bunch of 20 year olds down to Florida over Christmas for 2 weeks makes for a funny sort of preparation. I've seen countless upsets during bowl season.

If you want to really look at the relative strength of leagues, look at the victories during the season. Wins over SEC West Champ Ole Miss, Penn State, Louisville, Miami FLA, etc. I'm no more impressed by the teams that beat AAC teams so far than I am by the AAC's pretty good showing the 2 years before.

Wait until the New Year's Bowl games, because teams play those a lot harder.

That could be true but its not factual. The SEC has been the best conference in bowl games since the start of the BCS, and therefore have gotten the most respect. Your argument essentially says just because Conference XXX has had the most ranked teams during the regular season, they deserve to be the best conference even though they went 2-6 in bowl games just because it doesn't matter.

Its up to the coaches to motivate the players for the bowl games, not just write them off as extra practice. I'm 100% sure Diaco is doing this.

Yet again you are correct because all college athletics is fluky. I'm going to have some more wine.

 

[upstater]

That could be true but its not factual. The SEC has been the best conference in bowl games since the start of the BCS, and therefore have gotten the most respect. Your argument essentially says just because Conference XXX has had the most ranked teams during the regular season, they deserve to be the best conference even though they went 2-6 in bowl games just because it doesn't matter.

Its up to the coaches to motivate the players for the bowl games, not just write them off as extra practice. I'm 100% sure Diaco is doing this.

Yet again you are correct because all college athletics is fluky. I'm going to have some more wine.

That's not actually my argument. Has nothing to do with rankings. Has a lot to do with actual wins.

I've just observed lesser teams winning constantly. And not to take anything away from that great UConn team in 2010, but UConn thoroughly abused and dominated a South Carolina team that had annihilated ACC Champ and top 15 ranked Clemson in its previous game. I don't think South Carolina showed much enthusiasm, but that's what happens in these bowl games not named after a fruit or a flower.