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Paige said at UConn "it's national titles or nothing" so if she feels the season was a waste, why should we not feel the same way?
I understand what you have written and almost felt the same way, almost. I am sure in retrospect that Paige realizes the season ending game while disappointing was not an entire waste, nor was the season. We may want to forget about the last game, however there are many lessons to be learned from it, as well as the entire season. I respect how Paige feels about the last game and the season, I don't rely on Paige's feelings to shape my own. The season to me was nowhere near a waste, analogy please, the season was like a good book with twists, elation, highs, lows and intrigue it's just that the ending sucked. :(
 
it's not that simple, 3 players left 2 of them played over 125+ games for Uconn. The lineup will consist of 2 sophomores, 2 jrs, and 1 sr coming off a terrible injury.
I think your count may be a little off. 2 grad students (Dorka and Lou), 1 senior (Aubrey), 3 juniors (Paige, Aaliyah, Nika), and 3 sophomores (Caroline, Amari and Azzi), and 2 freshmen (Ayanna and Ice).

If you meant to compare the starting lineups, that's a bit trickier given the turmoil of last season. But a typical lineup toward the end of the season consisted of Christyn, Azzi, Caroline, Aaliyah, and Olivia -- or 2 seniors, 1 sophomore, 2 freshmen. Next season, we are likely to see Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Aaliyah and Dorka -- or 1 grad student, 2 juniors and 2 sophomores. And given how much playing time Azzi and Caroline got last season, I don't think they will be any sort of liability against anyone.
 
I would say it is "THE happiest I have ever been to be National Runner's Up! You all have battled through things that no one else have ever had to endure. Most of you still will be battling health issues to get ready for next year, but be proud of this accomplishment, and use it as a stepping stone. Once we are healthy as a team, WE GOT THIS!"
At the risk of pointing out the obvious, it’s the only time we’ve been National Runner’s Up!
 
I think your count may be a little off. 2 grad students (Dorka and Lou), 1 senior (Aubrey), 3 juniors (Paige, Aaliyah, Nika), and 3 sophomores (Caroline, Amari and Azzi), and 2 freshmen (Ayanna and Ice).

If you meant to compare the starting lineups, that's a bit trickier given the turmoil of last season. But a typical lineup toward the end of the season consisted of Christyn, Azzi, Caroline, Aaliyah, and Olivia -- or 2 seniors, 1 sophomore, 2 freshmen. Next season, we are likely to see Paige, Azzi, Caroline, Aaliyah and Dorka -- or 1 grad student, 2 juniors and 2 sophomores. And given how much playing time Azzi and Caroline got last season, I don't think they will be any sort of liability against anyone.
A player coming out of Fairfield that has not played in a non mid major conference in basketball that won't start. And no the starting lineup was pretty easy last season when healthy: Edwards/Olivia/Williams/Paige.
 
“When healthy” That’s quite a caveat. But sure, that was the lineup we expected last season.

Who would the fifth one be? It wouldn’t have been Nika. If you say Azzi, then you might as well say Caroline, and my point is made.
 
Why do you think Patterson can't defend at the sf, and play offensively in a similar manner as Griffin?
This is the second time for this question, I think, and I’m puzzled. I never said she couldn’t defend the 3, though she may be slower than some of the folks she’s have to guard. I was only remarking that she’s strong enough to defend the 4, and maybe even occasionally the 5. At the 4, she’d be stronger than pretty much anyone else she’ll have to guard.

Sure, we could play Ayanna at the 3 and she’d do okay. But I tend to think of that position for Caroline (at 6’2”) and Lou and Aubrey. Ayanna’s best potential looks to me to be at the 4. Of course, Caroline could (and probably will) play the 2 sometimes. But I think of Paige and Azzi as having a lock on those spots most of the time.
 
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it's not that simple, 3 players left 2 of them played over 125+ games for Uconn. The lineup will consist of 2 sophomores, 2 jrs, and 1 sr coming off a terrible injury.
In MHO- only position that may be a small give back ( and I’m not conceding that ) is at the 5 spot.
This remains to be revealed.
Dorka coming back healthy, with a year of UCONN experience under her belt will be a + over last year.
Aayliah’s trajectory continues upward.
Paige at 100%.
Azzi healthy and acclimated.
Nika also 100% and ready to create mayhem.
Caroline healthy and a significantly larger contributor.
Addition of a transfer shooter.
And MORE MUSCLE on the front line.
Amari - we’ll see ( hopeful).
Aubrey’s contributions would be a big plus- I remain hopeful but reserved. Back injuries are a crapshoot at any age.
Most anxious to observe a really tough OOC schedule.
“LET THE GAMES BEGIN”
 
English is not Kaizen’s first language
I knew that. I was just poking a little fun at my buddy Kaizen. He knows my heart. Few are the posters that never make a typo here in the yard. :)
 
This is the second time for this question, I think, and I’m puzzled. I never said she couldn’t defend the 3, though she may be slower than some of the folks she’s have to guard. I was only remarking that she’s strong enough to defend the 4, and maybe even occasionally the 5. At the 4, she’d be stronger than pretty much anyone else she’ll have to guard.

Sure, we could play Ayanna at the 3 and she’d do okay. But I tend to think of that position for Caroline (at 6’2”) and Lou and Aubrey. Ayanna’s best potential looks to me to be at the 4. Of course, Caroline could (and probably will) play the 2 sometimes. But I think of Paige and Azzi as having a lock on those spots most of the time.
Huh? I only asked this once. Maybe what you are saying is that you looked over my question again a 2nd time?

I agree with you-- I think Patterson's best in wcbb is as a 4. I read from Alyadar he is saying she is 6'3 3/4's - then she becomes even more of a 4/5. I see her as someone who can defend wings too as long as they aren't uber-quick guards.

I'm excited to see Amari and the freshmen. Just need one to play well and don't need them to be an "Honorable Mention A/A or better."
 
I'm excited to see Amari and the freshmen. Just need one to play well and don't need them to be an "Honorable Mention A/A or better."
I'm holding out hope that all 3 play really well and become regular rotation players. I still remember how happy the players were in the BE tournament that they had two completes squads that could be subbed in and out. I have a feeling Geno won't have to work hard to sell them on the idea of a deep bench of rotation players this year.
 
Huh? I only asked this once. Maybe what you are saying is that you looked over my question again a 2nd time?

I agree with you-- I think Patterson's best in wcbb is as a 4. I read from Alyadar he is saying she is 6'3 3/4's - then she becomes even more of a 4/5. I see her as someone who can defend wings too as long as they aren't uber-quick guards.

I'm excited to see Amari and the freshmen. Just need one to play well and don't need them to be an "Honorable Mention A/A or better."

What I said was that she was a 6'3" wing/pf (3/4), not nearly 6'4", though I don't see why that would make a difference.
I haven't seen much of Patterson outside of 3X3. She towered over most of her HS opponents in the 2 games I watched. What first caught my attention at first was her foot speed. She is quick, like a guard. She can get from A to B in a flash, a key in rebounding and shot blocking. I'm sure she'll make lots of mistakes early but she will make highlight plays too.
What will get her more than fill-in minutes is her defense. She's starting out right in the S&C session.
 
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I'm holding out hope that all 3 play really well and become regular rotation players. I still remember how happy the players were in the BE tournament that they had two completes squads that could be subbed in and out. I have a feeling Geno won't have to work hard to sell them on the idea of a deep bench of rotation players this year.
That would be utopia. Or like batting 1.000 in baseball. We have three candidates to make the team more of a conventional size team in Amari, Brady and Patterson. If all 3 hit that is 1.00. I think that is utopia.

In regards to "selling," it's upon the player to sell. Not Geno having to do the selling.
 
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What I said was that she was a 6'3" wing/pf (3/4), not nearly 6'4", though I don't see why that would make a difference.
I haven't seen much of Patterson outside of 3X3. She towered over most of her HS opponents in the 2 games I watched. What first caught my attention at first was her foot speed. She is quick, like a guard. She can get from A to B in a flash, a key in rebounding and shot blocking. I'm sure she'll make lots of mistakes early but she will make highlight plays too.
What will get her more than fill-in minutes is her defense. She's starting out right in the S&C session.
I misunderstood. I deserve a smack for not picking up your 3/4 reference. :):)

Each inch she is taller she is exponentially better imo. She's currently listed as 6'2. If she is 6'3 all the better.
 
Only 15, geez, I thought they had 30 with 15 bigs. No, 11 is never enough,.....for me.
SCar could lose 6-8 players at the end of the season. Boston, Saxton, Beal, Cooke, Amihere and others. So Dawn needs a big roster and will likely have to dip into the portal.

UConn loses Juhasz & Senechal. Hopefully DeBerry Brady and Patterson will rotate with Edwards. It'll be a year to watch and learn for the freshmen guards as (hopefully) Bueckers Fudd Ducharme and Mühl dominate the back court.
 
Right, that’s why I’ve said Paige hasn’t done anything yet and I took a beating. Paige apparently knows.
In fun-- the beating then was well deserved. I say this in fun; you're pretty bold to say this anonymously. But would you say it to your daughter or to Paige's face and to all of her teammates faces that a former NPOY who was also all-region - hasn't done anything yet? It seems like you are saying you either win a title or you are a bust? I know you didn't say that but she did refer to "all or nothing" which you seem to agree with and "nothing" can be construed as "exactly" "that." But I think you and some others get too carried away taking a younger player's comments way too literal.

Are you proud of her, or aren't you? If you are proud of her, then how is what she has done so far, "nothing?"

When I played basketball in the 18th century and lost, no family member could console me. Especially if I didn't perform well. You think it different now? OFC the young player is going to make comments like this.
 
None of those players remind me of Stewie, a healthy Tuck, Moriah, 2 lockdown defenders in Nurse, Williams.
Two outstanding freshmen in KLS, and Collier.
Man what a team!!

As long as we are off track ... I wonder if the 2015 team with KML and Stokes wasn't better?
 
Right, that’s why I’ve said Paige hasn’t done anything yet and I took a beating. Paige apparently knows.

It's great that Bueckers has that attitude. It's one of the things I liked about her. But for a fan to turn a blind eye to her play and say she hasn't done anything makes we wonder. As a fan, my goal is to be entertained and there hasn't been a player that I've enjoyed watching play more in over 30 years.
I think this coming season we will see a crisper team, more the offensive machine many of us love. I'll make a rare prediction that with a normal year this team may lead the nation in defense. The guards all know the system and can spend their time learning each other now. Having Paige play pick up games is like having a coach there because she can relate what's going on to the real coaches.
Stronger, smarter, stronger than a locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet.

This is a nice time for me. Sure, no games but I get to relax and imagine great seasons while they are doing the sweating to make it real.
 
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In fun-- the beating then was well deserved. I say this in fun; you're pretty bold to say this anonymously. But would you say it to your daughter or to Paige's face and to all of her teammates faces that a former NPOY who was also all-region - hasn't done anything yet? It seems like you are saying you either win a title or you are a bust? I know you didn't say that but she did refer to "all or nothing" which you seem to agree with and "nothing" can be construed as "exactly" "that." But I think you and some others get too carried away taking a younger player's comments way too literal.

Are you proud of her, or aren't you? If you are proud of her, then how is what she has done so far, "nothing?"

When I played basketball in the 18th century and lost, no family member could console me. Especially if I didn't perform well. You think it different now? OFC the young player is going to make comments like this.
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SCar could lose 6-8 players at the end of the season. Boston, Saxton, Beal, Cooke, Amihere and others. So Dawn needs a big roster and will likely have to dip into the portal.

UConn loses Juhasz & Senechal. Hopefully DeBerry Brady and Patterson will rotate with Edwards. It'll be a year to watch and learn for the freshmen guards as (hopefully) Bueckers Fudd Ducharme and Mühl dominate the back court.
The pieces are all there, on paper. History seems to say what you get are not necessarily shat you expected or hoped for. I'll wait until I see them in action.. However, the potential for a great year appears to be here. Geno's sysstem isn't always a perfect fit for all. Then too I havent' seen De Berry long enough or against top post to evaluate her abilities. AI have seen she knows how to score. Uconn has fire power galore, it needs post stoppers--f in that catogory Tina , Stokes, Steff ---even J Moore I'd take.
 
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Are you saying you would be proud of someone for accomplishing nothing? Because if you take Paige's comment so literal that it's title or nothing then why would you give any indication n that you are proud?

Another thread was started that the UCONN players were watching Evina. So Paige and the other players are wasting their time watching a teammate that never helped them accomplish a thing? And Evina being in the WNBA is not an accomplishment either?
 
Eleven is too lean. The men's team had 13 players--that sounds like the right amount.
 
Eleven is too lean. The men's team had 13 players--that sounds like the right amount.
The women who are a ton more successful than the men to any degree should be following the men's path?
Auriemma's path is far superior to the men. It's not Hurley's "fault." But Hurley doesn't get near the player Auriemma gets.
It's okay to be lean when your superstars are off the charts and even want to play in blowouts.
 
Eleven is too lean. The men's team had 13 players--that sounds like the right amount.
The men had 14 players, counting 2 walk-ons. Five players had less than 70 total minutes for the entire season; three of them transferred out. After graduation, adding freshmen, and transfers in & out, the men currently have 10 on their roster.

Beware the bulging roster. There will always be only 200 minutes a game.

 
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The pieces are all there, on paper. History seems to say what you get are not necessarily shat you expected or hoped for. I'll wait until I see them in action.. However, the potential for a great year appears to be here. Geno's sysstem isn't always a perfect fit for all. Then too I havent' seen De Berry long enough or against top post to evaluate her abilities. AI have seen she knows how to score. Uconn has fire power galore, it needs post stoppers--f in that catogory Tina , Stokes, Steff ---even J Moore I'd take.
Bottom line for her legacy is The Big Trophy.
Unless THE UCONN team collapses around her ( which won’t happen) “the proof of the pudding is in the tasting” I.E.- Championships.
Don’t want her to pull a Pete Marovich-super stats but no hardware.
And NOT SAYING SHE WILL-but her legacy is a work in progress.
Do I think she will deliver—YES
Has she of yet- NO
And I think her statements reflect this.
 
Summer time we all should have some funs ...cheers:)

I see South Carolina has 15 roasters in 2022 . Is this too much if you think eleven should be plenty?

South Carolina will have 13 on roster for '22-'23.. online rosters aren't updated for upcoming season yet.
 
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The pieces are all there, on paper. History seems to say what you get are not necessarily shat you expected or hoped for. I'll wait until I see them in action.. However, the potential for a great year appears to be here. Geno's sysstem isn't always a perfect fit for all. Then too I havent' seen De Berry long enough or against top post to evaluate her abilities. AI have seen she knows how to score. Uconn has fire power galore, it needs post stoppers--f in that catogory Tina , Stokes, Steff ---even J Moore I'd take.

They did a job on the NCSt center and the AA post for Indiana, and the Biggest front line in wcbb, Stanford and Brink. There was one post that beat them and she beat every other post she faced last season. So all of wcbb gets an F in "post stopping"? Come on!
 
Eleven is too lean. The men's team had 13 players--that sounds like the right amount.
I agree.
But I don’t drive the bus, I’m only a passenger.
Very narrow margin for the unexpected/lingering injury.
Been there.
Done that.
Don’t want to do it again.
 
With UCONN WBBB the "official" goal is always to win it all next year regardless or the prior season outcome. That is not going to change as long as Geno is coaching. If I'm Geno addressing the team I'm extremely proud of the season they had in beating Indiana, NCSt and Stanford to close the season. I also think Geno was very disappointed with the teams performance in the championship game and he would address that as well. In reality if the players aren't disappointed by the way the UCONN season ended then chances are they are no longer on this team. When the season starts and the players get a chance to talk you are not going to hear much about how they played vs NCSt and Stanford. Did you hear anyone mention of the Baylor game at the beginning of this past season? Of course not. Merely making it to a championship game is the stuff of legends at many other programs-not for UCONN.
I would argue that it might be the fanbase that has the goal of winning a championship every year but the coaching staff has more reasonable expectations .
 
I would argue that it might be the fanbase that has the goal of winning a championship every year but the coaching staff has more reasonable expectations .
It not just the fanbase. It is also the players:
 
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