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upstater said:
The fact that Rodney is trying for fast breaks instead of rebounding, this far into the season, tells me that this is by design.
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Apparently they had the same design at NC State.

Maybe, also by design, he's not supposed to pass to an open man who can make a shot, and, again, NC State apparently had that exact same design. Let's call it the "Rodney don't pass and don't rebound" design.

I guess what really agitates me about Rodney is that the way he plays the game, mostly, contrary to the way I think the game should be played. And his style of play is not one I associate with winning.
 
Cheeky said:
Apparently they had the same design at NC State.

Maybe, also by design, he's not supposed to pass to an open man who can make a shot, and, again, NC State apparently had that exact same design. Let's call it the "Rodney don't pass and don't rebound" design.

I guess what really agitates me about Rodney is that the way he plays the game, mostly, contrary to the way I think the game should be played. And his style of play is not one I associate with winning.
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Remind me to never ever discuss Rodney with you.
 
Cheeky said:
DHam is a great player who is working his way through is freshman year. He has a great natural shooting stroke, excellent ball control, and rebounds energetically. He averages 7 boards, 3 assists, and 1 steal per game. He has a good nose for the ball and a good head for the game.

Purvis is a problematic player in his 3rd year who hasn't improved since he arrived at college. He has an awkward shooting stroke, a weak handle, and rebounds lethargically. He averages 2 boards, 1 assist, and less than 1 steal per game. He has no nose for the ball and horrible BBall IQ.

DHam is an NBA prospect who will do wonderful things at UConn before he leaves, and he'll be well respected and liked by all at that point.
Purvis will make you want to throw him through windows regularly, as he keeps both teams in the game simultaneously, and will eventually supplant Dyson as the most polarizing player in the JC/Ollie era. He has zero chance of making the NBA.
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Wow even after he makes you look like a fool you come out with your consistent blah blah blah blah. I commend you Cheekster!
 
Cheeky said:
Apparently they had the same design at NC State.

Maybe, also by design, he's not supposed to pass to an open man who can make a shot, and, again, NC State apparently had that exact same design. Let's call it the "Rodney don't pass and don't rebound" design.

I guess what really agitates me about Rodney is that the way he plays the game, mostly, contrary to the way I think the game should be played. And his style of play is not one I associate with winning.
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You're getting close to the level of the guy who said that "Purvis should've stayed at NC State. His attitude doesn't belong here at UCONN." Unless that was you...
 
Cheeky said:
DHam is a great player who is working his way through is freshman year. He has a great natural shooting stroke, excellent ball control, and rebounds energetically. He averages 7 boards, 3 assists, and 1 steal per game. He has a good nose for the ball and a good head for the game.

Purvis is a problematic player in his 3rd year who hasn't improved since he arrived at college. He has an awkward shooting stroke, a weak handle, and rebounds lethargically. He averages 2 boards, 1 assist, and less than 1 steal per game. He has no nose for the ball and horrible BBall IQ.

DHam is an NBA prospect who will do wonderful things at UConn before he leaves, and he'll be well respected and liked by all at that point.
Purvis will make you want to throw him through windows regularly, as he keeps both teams in the game simultaneously, and will eventually supplant Dyson as the most polarizing player in the JC/Ollie era. He has zero chance of making the NBA.
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Interestingly, in a recent thread about Dyson, the majority of fans who jumped all over him in the past managed to avoid commenting about him. They have moved on or healed. Most of the comments in that thread were complimentary towards him. The primary exceptions were you and chief00.

I agree that Dham has the potential for a much higher ceiling than RP. But you are already in the stands ready to instigate negativity towards Rodney. I think this issue is personal for you.
 
fleudslipcon said:
I think this issue is personal for you.
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Personal how?

I really, really just dislike the way he plays the game. He's not a team player. His IQ on the court is low. Sent out a text about "loyalty" the first game he didn't get PT. Not commenting on the kid personally - could be a great kid. Just observing that he's got the traits of a guy who's not going to improve much in his time here and who will continue to be frustrating. I very much dislike watching him play. I don't have that same feeling about any other player.

Personal how? You could be on to something, I just need more clarification (seriously, I respect your human analysis, which I've read over the year here. You're clearly a competent counselor/psychologist).
 
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Cheeky said:
Personal how?

I really, really just dislike the way he plays the game. He's not a team player. His IQ on the court is low. Sent out a text about "loyalty" the first game he didn't get PT. Not commenting on the kid personally - could be a great kid. Just observing that he's got the traits of a guy who's not going to improve much in his time here and who will continue to be frustrating. I very much dislike watching him play. I don't have that same feeling about any other player.

Personal how? You could be on to something, I just need more clarification (seriously, I respect your human analysis, which I've read over the year here. You're clearly a competent counselor/psychologist).
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you realize how inept you are at interpreting basketball? purvis loves his team. thats a fact. and he is still really talented. go spend your time elsewhere if you have nothing meaningful to contribute. you aint cheeky, your shi1111ty
 
Cheeky said:
Personal how?

I really, really just dislike the way he plays the game. He's not a team player. His IQ on the court is low. Sent out a text about "loyalty" the first game he didn't get PT. Not commenting on the kid personally - could be a great kid. Just observing that he's got the traits of a guy who's not going to improve much in his time here and who will continue to be frustrating. I very much dislike watching him play. I don't have that same feeling about any other player.

Personal how? You could be on to something, I just need more clarification (seriously, I respect your human analysis, which I've read over the year here. You're clearly a competent counselor/psychologist).
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There's an objective element(s) and subjective element(s) that makes us think, feel, and behave the way we do. For the moment, let's remove the intellectual component. You have identified the elements in Rodney's and Jerome's game that elicit an emotional response in you. Now figure out what it is about you that causes this emotional response when you see that type of play.

Emotions are beautiful. But they can impact us and others negatively when we can't control them.

Let me add back the intellectual component. There may or may not be validity to your assessment of their game. Who decides that? Suffice it to say, your assessment is valid for you. The caution for all of us is that, in most cases, we can't assess things absolutely. We are frequently missing critical pieces of information and therefore are postulating theories. The danger is when we begin to believe our theories are facts.
 
Cheeky... While your problems with Purvis's game are justified and for the most part true, his ball IQ is low, his ball handling is poor, he doesn't share the ball or rebound we know... but your constant and out of know where attacking of him lowers your credibility on this board. Ive seen your post and I think you understand the game at an above average level for this board, But your vendetta against Purvis is taking away from it.

At this point it seems personal. I can't deny hopefully you can get off this and start discussing hoops with us.
 
PradaMane said:
Cheeky... While your problems with Purvis's game are justified and for the most part true, his ball IQ is low, his ball handling is poor, he doesn't share the ball or rebound we know... but your constant and out of know where attacking of him lowers your credibility on this board. Ive seen your post and I think you understand the game at an above average level for this board, But your vendetta against Purvis is taking away from it.

At this point it seems personal. I can't deny hopefully you can get off this and start discussing hoops with us.
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Well taken. Thank you.
 
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Purvis shows flashes of being a Ferrari, but mostly, he's just a Camry. Middle of the road. Doesn't hurt, but doesn't help either.

He needs to work on the jumper, but not in games. He's at his best attacking the rim. Once he has some success doing that, then he'll get more room to get off his jump shot.
 
Purvis catches ball while standing out of bounds on the sideline. Drink.
 
Purvis makes two straight tough drives sandwiched between 3 missed FT's. Drink.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Purvis makes two straight tough drives sandwiched between 3 missed FT's. Drink.
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I missed the first half while at the doctor's office. He asked "why would you be showing early signs of hyper tension at your age?" I said "Have you ever seen Rodney Purvis play basketball?"

duck*ing hell.
 
UConn990411 said:
I don't think Purvis will be a great player by any means, but I'm going to enjoy when he makes a lot of people on this board look stupid.
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I volunteer to look stupid. I mean, even more so than usual. I would love for this kid to make me look stupid, because, if he does, we'll be a much better team.
 
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UConn990411 said:
I don't think Purvis will be a great player by any means...
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The frustration I'm feeling about him (and I'm not willing to speak for anyone else here) is that I think he clearly has the tools to be a great player. The joke Chin Diesel was making was that he sandwiches those spectacular plays - his driving lay-ups, jump-stop floaters & catch-and-shoot 3s - with some spectacularly bone-headed .

We are clearly better off for having a talent like Purvis on the team. The process of molding him from "talent" into "player", however, is going to claim some lives around here no matter how much faith you've got in KO (and I've got a lot).
 
Cheeky said:
I volunteer to look stupid. I mean, even more so than usual. I would love for this kid to make me look stupid, because, if he does, we'll be a much better team.
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Don't worry, he will. And I don't say that to be a pr&ck. Keep an eye on the flashes. There were several tonight, and I think they're going to get more and more consistent. I think a confident Purvis is going to be a force. A work in progress for certain, but ultimately a force.
 
selles said:
Don't worry, he will. And I don't say that to be a pr&ck. Keep an eye on the flashes. There were several tonight, and I think they're going to get more and more consistent. I think a confident Purvis is going to be a force. A work in progress for certain, but ultimately a force.
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I want the flashes to become supernovas. But I'll be really bummed if he eliminates the WTFs?. I want him to be Rodney just being Rodney (referencing Manny Ramirez's Manyy just being Manny).
 
Matrim55 said:
The frustration I'm feeling about him (and I'm not willing to speak for anyone else here) is that I think he clearly has the tools to be a great player. The joke Chin Diesel was making was that he sandwiches those spectacular plays - his driving lay-ups, jump-stop floaters & catch-and-shoot 3s - with some spectacularly bone-headed .

We are clearly better off for having a talent like Purvis on the team. The process of molding him from "talent" into "player", however, is going to claim some lives around here no matter how much faith you've got in KO (and I've got a lot).
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Thank you.
 
The thing that caught my eye is how long he was in the air on one drive as he attacked the rim. Some great athleticism there.
 
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Matrim55 said:
The frustration I'm feeling about him (and I'm not willing to speak for anyone else here) is that I think he clearly has the tools to be a great player. The joke Chin Diesel was making was that he sandwiches those spectacular plays - his driving lay-ups, jump-stop floaters & catch-and-shoot 3s - with some spectacularly bone-headed .
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Lots of players have had the physical talent to be great players - unfortunately, it's just not in everyone's DNA.

But Purvis is a guy who has steadily gotten better over the course of the season. It doesn't feel that way because when he's bad, he's really bad. But when you compare his two- to three-game stretches now to his two- to three-game stretches at the beginning of the season, it's night and day.

The guy is yet to eclipse 60 games in his collegiate career, and UConn could potentially have him for two more full seasons. If he were to stay through his senior year, he has the makings of a really, really good college player.
 
upstater said:
The thing that caught my eye is how long he was in the air on one drive as he attacked the rim. Some great athleticism there.
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Maybe Ollie should have called him a Gulfstream instead of a Ferrari?
 
selles said:
Don't worry, he will. And I don't say that to be a pr&ck. Keep an eye on the flashes. There were several tonight, a
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He looked really good last night. He played within the offense.

Of course, it was a blow out win from the 4 minute mark, so that is an anomaly.
 
Just reading this thread now. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's not RP fault that OTHERS hyped him up. Had we never heard Ollie call him a ferrari, or Calhoun say he was the best player on the court last year (team with 3 NBA guys in Bazz, DD and RB), then we would be more than happy with what he has provided us this year.

He's a good second half player. Second leading scorer on the team after last night, averaging 10.1 ppg (Dham and AB average 10) on 44% shooting and 36% from 3. Thats pretty damn good.
 
lange10 said:
Just reading this thread now. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's not RP fault that OTHERS hyped him up. Had we never heard Ollie call him a ferrari, or Calhoun say he was the best player on the court last year (team with 3 NBA guys in Bazz, DD and RB), then we would be more than happy with what he has provided us this year.

He's a good second half player. Second leading scorer on the team after last night, averaging 10.1 ppg (Dham and AB average 10) on 44% shooting and 36% from 3. Thats pretty damn good.
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It's not just the hype that bothers people, but that certainly is a part of the problem. It seems every year there is a group of people that go after one of the players with a certain type of game. Bazz and Ryan got this treatment their sophomore seasons. I think it's a style issue for some. They confuse a certain type of play as being selfish and transpose this to a player being selfish.

Players that play too fast and have turnovers are considered out of control even if their number of turnovers is less or on par with others and even if the speed facilitates scoring opportunities. Think Taliek.

Players that don't get assists are considered selfish even if that play is what coaches want, or if the player lacks decent peripheral vision and/or passing skills. Think Jerome.

And if they don't smile or have a goofy appearance........
 
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