RIP Charlie Watts

[Waquoit]

I always thought the Beatles-Stones thing was mostly about the Stones rocking harder and one's personal preference associated with that.

 

[8893]

I always thought the Beatles-Stones thing was mostly about the Stones rocking harder and one's personal preference associated with that.

I think that's certainly the popular perception, which was aided in great part by the Stones' carefully-cultivated image as the "bad boys of rock-n-roll," in contrast to the more charming and witty image the Beatles cultivated.

Funny I put all my Stones' tunes on shuffle for my evening run yesterday and, aside from "Sympathy for the Devil," which I chose manually as the first tune to get me started, there was nary a rocker among the rest for the rest of my run. I didn't mind because I love it all, but I thought it was interesting how much of their great material actually consists of slower songs that don't rock at all.

And here's one that came on on my drive home after the run, which I love because it's such a slow burn--although it really rocks once it gets cooking when they get close to the 3:00 minute mark:

 

[Chin Diesel]

I think that's certainly the popular perception, which was aided in great part by the Stones' carefully-cultivated image as the "bad boys of rock-n-roll," in contrast to the more charming and witty image the Beatles cultivated.

Funny I put all my Stones' tunes on shuffle for my evening run yesterday and, aside from "Sympathy for the Devil," which I chose manually as the first tune to get me started, there was nary a rocker among the rest for the rest of my run. I didn't mind because I love it all, but I thought it was interesting how much of their great material actually consists of slower songs that don't rock at all.

And here's one that came on on my drive home after the run, which I love because it's such a slow burn--although it really rocks once it gets cooking when they get close to the 3:00 minute mark:

Nice.

When I used to run, I had a loop/route through the neighborhood. Back in the old iPod days, I had my running music set and All Down the Line was always set up for the penultimate song on the run. Puddle of Mudd Away from Me was always the finisher.

Bob Seger Taveling Man / Beautiful loser was always hitting leadoff.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I think that's certainly the popular perception, which was aided in great part by the Stones' carefully-cultivated image as the "bad boys of rock-n-roll," in contrast to the more charming and witty image the Beatles cultivated.

Funny I put all my Stones' tunes on shuffle for my evening run yesterday and, aside from "Sympathy for the Devil," which I chose manually as the first tune to get me started, there was nary a rocker among the rest for the rest of my run. I didn't mind because I love it all, but I thought it was interesting how much of their great material actually consists of slower songs that don't rock at all.

And here's one that came on on my drive home after the run, which I love because it's such a slow burn--although it really rocks once it gets cooking when they get close to the 3:00 minute mark:

Angie and Wild Horses are some epic headbangers...easily a match for Norwegian Wood. Fool to Cry, Ruby Tuesday...the list of mellow tunes is long.

I do think Heartbreaker and Gimmie Shelter rock pretty hard. I just think the Stones are more jazzy/funky than the Beatles. That may mostly be because they survived into the 70s. Who knows what the Beatles would have done?

 

[Chin Diesel]

You can put me firmly in the camp of the Stones were at their best with Mick Taylor. Perfect complement to Keith.

The studio version of Can't You Hear Me Knocking is so good with Bobby Keys and Mick's instrumentals but this gives a hint of what 25 more years of Mick could have meant for the live shows.

Also, much like Bruce Springsteen was born to play the Meadowlands, the Stone and Glastonbury are perfect.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Fairly recent, still a nice rendition of Honky Tonk Woman. This is a style of song that set the Stones apart. Never really thought of Sheryl Crow as attractive but um...yeah, I suppose so.

 

[Chin Diesel]

Fairly recent, still a nice rendition of Honky Tonk Woman. This is a style of song that set the Stones apart. Never really thought of Sheryl Crow as attractive but um...yeah, I suppose so.

That's an odd take.

 

[Chin Diesel]

If you want to do the female vocalists plays off Mick Jaggar, there's this version of Gimme Shelter and then there's the rest.

 

[Chin Diesel]

For just hotness, there's this version with Fergie, Wil I Am and parts of U2.

 

[8893]

Fairly recent, still a nice rendition of Honky Tonk Woman. This is a style of song that set the Stones apart. Never really thought of Sheryl Crow as attractive but um...yeah, I suppose so.

I listened to the original studio version last night and was thinking that it may be the most recognizable opening drum beat of all time. Not many songs open with an unaccompanied drum for the first several beats.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I listened to the original studio version last night and was thinking that it may be the most recognizable opening drum beat of all time. Not many songs open with an unaccompanied drum for the first several beats.

Somehow didn’t make Rick’s top 20. He should have had Ballroom Blitz much higher.

 

[uconnfan68]

I'm with you.

For people of a certain age the Beatles had a huge cultural influence before the Stones came around. Musically The Stones crush the Beatles. Lennon is probably seen by most as a better song writer than Jagger or Richards but Stones were so much more versatile. Beatles are for the boomers sucking on herbal tea and Starbucks. Stones are for the boomers sucking on bourbon and marlboros.

Bourbon and joints. Cigarettes will kill you.

 

[storrsroars]

Angie and Wild Horses are some epic headbangers...easily a match for Norwegian Wood. Fool to Cry, Ruby Tuesday...the list of mellow tunes is long.

I do think Heartbreaker and Gimmie Shelter rock pretty hard. I just think the Stones are more jazzy/funky than the Beatles. That may mostly be because they survived into the 70s. Who knows what the Beatles would have done?

Going back to the early days of both groups, the Beatles did like 95% love songs into 1966 while the Stones were cranking out "19th Nervous Breakdown" and "Paint It Black", both of which were released between the Beatles releasing Rubber Soul and Revolver. They were darker and willing to write about subjects beyond boy meets girl.

I think the Beatles ended when they had to. For whatever acclaim the White Album garnered, most of it was not a "group" production. I think the only one who didn't "quit" the band before the official announcement was George. Pretty much everyone was ready to do their own thing and that worked out well for all four of them. Jagger/Richards still had the desire to work together and were capable of coming up with good new material, at least through Exile.

That said, I never took to Jagger, although i appreciated the musicality of the band. For me it was Beatles>Kinks>Stones>Who.

 

[jibsey]

Tickets for Tampa in October. Mick bought a house for his girlfriend and his kid (her parents in Bradenton) close to where I live near Sarasota.

 

[storrsroars]

Swing and a miss.

About like this...

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

No Expectations is my favorite Stones tune, from Rock and Roll Circus.

Charlie Watts doesn't even play on it.

 

[Waquoit]

Somehow didn’t make Rick’s top 20. He should have had Ballroom Blitz much higher.

You went and did it. Ballroom Blitz is an all-timer and I saw Sweet play it live in the Hartford Jai-Alai fronton of all places. I'm gonna crank it up now.

 

[Ewekon]

If you want to do the female vocalists plays off Mick Jaggar, there's this version of Gimme Shelter and then there's the rest.

Splitting hairs but that tour and all after = no Bill.
But there you go. No band can do that better...when Mick was Mick..

Tight they weren't. Great they were.

RIP Charlie

 

[Kolumbo]

This rocks.

 

[Kolumbo]

What is the best movie scene featuring a Rolling Stones tune? Here is a sampling.

The Rolling Stones: 5 Times Martin Scorsese Used Their Songs (& 5 Times Wes Anderson Did) (screenrant.com)

 

[Chin Diesel]

What is the best movie scene featuring a Rolling Stones tune? Here is a sampling.

The Rolling Stones: 5 Times Martin Scorsese Used Their Songs (& 5 Times Wes Anderson Did) (screenrant.com)

I'd have Monkey Man from Goodfellas #1 on that list.

 

[8893]

I'd have Monkey Man from Goodfellas #1 on that list.

Had that BLARING on the iPod as I pulled into my driveway last night; hit replay just to hear my favorite line again:

Well I hope we're not too messianic
Or a trifle too satanic.
But we love to play the blues!

 

[Stinger92860]

This has been my favorite band since forever. I can vividly remember sitting patiently next to the family AM radio on hot summer days in 1965, just to hear "Satisfaction."

Was fortunate enough to see them twice, in 1978 ("Some Girls") and 1994 ("Voodoo Lounge").

Here's another article, a good one - the Daily Mail's headline story: 'The ultimate drummer'

Here's the last "public" picture of him, with his wife of 57 years. They had just adopted a greyhound. Family man, animal lover, and the best rock drummer ever. RIP, Mr. Watts.

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He looked so frail in that picture, but he was 80. My plan is to play tennis into my 90s, basketball to 70, road cycle to 80.

 

[ElGuapo]

 

[August_West]

I'd have Monkey Man from Goodfellas #1 on that list.

My #1 is let it loose in the departed