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Rick Pitino: UConn's only weakness is they foul too much

He's not wrong and he's further cementing the narrative for officials

the reason we will have problems with them all year is that they take it to hoop (and get fouled) while we are coming off screens for 3's, and most of fouls are off ball/uncalled...He rotated guys to nuisance our PG who is waiting for our action to unfold.
 
The end of the recent St John's vs Xavier game somehow had Xavier with the same we problem we had and they were driving the ball more. Calls were automatic when St John's drove for some reason. Not so for Xavier.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
It would take about 2 minutes of drafting the right prompt to an AI bot to figure out the ref paranoia on this board.
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I’m predicting there will be fair treatment in the next St. John’s game with similar free throws for both teams. Just a guess.
 
From ChatGPT, so not sure how accurate. Weird seeing Houston on the list.

  • Louisiana: -8.4 (14.8 FTA − 23.2 Opp FTA)
  • Alcorn St: -8.0 (15.3 − 23.3)
  • Mercyhurst: -7.6 (13.7 − 21.3)
  • American: -7.6 (16.0 − 23.6)
  • San Diego: -6.3 (16.0 − 22.3)
  • UT Rio Grande: -5.7 (16.2 − 21.9)
  • Abilene Christian: -5.6 (20.7 − 26.3)
  • Marist: -5.5 (15.0 − 20.5)
  • Albany: -5.1 (15.0 − 20.1)
  • Niagara: -5.1 (13.4 − 18.5)
  • IU Indy: -5.0 (14.9 − 19.9)
  • Brown: -4.4 (15.8 − 20.2)
  • UConn: -4.2 (18.1 − 22.3)
  • Miss Valley St: -4.1 (18.1 − 22.2)
  • Houston: -4.1 (16.0 − 20.1)
  • S Carolina St: -3.1 (22.2 − 25.3)
  • Stonehill: -3.0 (14.8 − 17.8)
  • AR-Pine Bluff: -2.6 (22.0 − 24.6)
  • Bryant: -2.5 (15.9 − 18.4)
  • Little Rock: -2.3 (15.7 − 18.0)
 
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What a troll! It is completely beneath someone of his accomplishments to be commenting on other teams issues. He knows his team can’t win unless he mucks it up and this is all just another attempt to set up the referees to call the game that suits their wrestling style of basketball. That said, the only way to shut him up is to beat him.
 
towerman said:
Our foul count OOC was high also.
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Dan has managed to piss off the entire reffing community. But, to be honest, it isn't as bad as last year. And our fouling issue isn't how much WE get called as much as it is how little our opponents get called for. If anyone thinks that the refs don't have a bias against Hurley, they either aren't paying attention or they don't want it to be true. And the easiest way for refs to control a game is to not call fouls on one team. No one replays every second of a game to look for non-calls. They look at the foul calls. And, given how much fouling, by the book, actually happens, most called fouls ARE actual fouls. Those aren't the issue. The non-calls are what kills us. You WILL miss a lot of shots and turn the ball over a lot if you are being fouled.
 
jibsey said:
I’m predicting there will be fair treatment in the next St. John’s game with similar free throws for both teams. Just a guess.
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You might be correct and I hope you are. The best way to deal with the refs is to dominate the game. They will only try to influence a close game.
 
Lafayette said:
Off-ball fouls are not going to be called unless egregious. The focus is on-ball fouls. Motion offenses produce good shots while St. Johns bully ball produces fouls.
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Off-ball fouls are as egregious as on-ball fouls. At least that's what the RULE BOOK says.
 


We would be unbeatable if we got a fair whistle. Look at where we are on this chart compared to every other top 10 team (aside from Houston)
 
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Pitino's not really trolling, coaches saying UConn fouls alot under Hurley has been a thing for awhile, just usually said anonymously. Don't understood why our beat writers have never really asked Hurley about it but they're mostly useless.
 
aceboon said:
Pitino's not really trolling, coaches saying UConn fouls alot under Hurley has been a thing for awhile, just usually said anonymously. Don't understood why our beat writers have never really asked Hurley about it but they're mostly useless.
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It's just our personnel - not too much of a mystery here.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
We would absolutely be unbeatable if refs only called fouls on the other team. So would everyone else.
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This was the McDermott school of defense with Kalk. I feel like they never fouled.

A lot of the top teams up on the front end, then us way in the back with Houston, Nebraska and Purdue.
 
Hurley spends a ton of time on the refs. I’d say at least 40% of his attention is on the refs, unless it’s a blowout. So I guess the question is would more fouls get called on us if he didn’t pay so much attention to the refs?
 
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St. John's has improved a great deal since falling to 9-5 with that ugly loss to Providence. I'm impressed. I thought the season was in danger of being lost at that point, but they have truly righted the ship, and a win over UConn should ensure a top 4 seed as long as they have no WTF losses moving forward.
 
aceboon said:
Pitino's not really trolling, coaches saying UConn fouls alot under Hurley has been a thing for awhile, just usually said anonymously. Don't understood why our beat writers have never really asked Hurley about it but they're mostly useless.
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Hurley needs to respond “St. John’s fouls a lot under Pitino, just wish they were called”.
 
I blame slick rick for louisville taking our place in the other conference. that single day has caused so much continued consternation

how can he say they're not as aggressive defensively. I know he knows a little bit more about hoops than I do but this doesn't jibe
 
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RuffRuff said:
This was the McDermott school of defense with Kalk. I feel like they never fouled.

A lot of the top teams up on the front end, then us way in the back with Houston, Nebraska and Purdue.
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Creighton just plays position defense. Don't challenge everything. Just keep people away from the basket, and try to get them to take pullups. You need the right kind of players to do that, and they don't have that team this year, but it is a reasonable strategy. Got them within a basket of the Final Four a few years ago.
 
The way to beat StJohns is to make them a jump shooting team. They get their points inside the paint and at the foul line.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Creighton just plays position defense. Don't challenge everything. Just keep people away from the basket, and try to get them to take pullups. You need the right kind of players to do that, and they don't have that team this year, but it is a reasonable strategy. Got them within a basket of the Final Four a few years ago.
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As in a 7’ 2” shot blocker deluxe? Those aren’t in ample supply and he had nothing like it this year. A cheat code as they call it. I’m
 
Nicklo28 said:
The way to beat StJohns is to make them a jump shooting team. They get their points inside the paint and at the foul line.
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How do we do that outside of playing a zone? We don’t have the horses to keep them out of the paint. They need to hope they don’t get matched up with some of the bigger teams out there this year. Would love to see SrJ play a Purdue.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
In the St John's game fouls three and four on Reed were not fouls. Pitino is trying to ensure that the refs continue calling them even if they aren't there.
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That's why I never really joined in the chorus here at the BoneYard when everyone was saying Zuby destroyed Tarris. Most of his damage was done after those bogus 3rd and 4th fouls calls on Tarris where he was scared he would get called for the 5th foul if he breathed in Zuby's direction. Those 4rd and 4th fouls calls were as legitimate as Okafor's 1st and 2nd foul calls in the Final Four game against Duke.
 
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