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Exactly what I expected, but I'm still disgusted.

The fact that the Big East teams are cited for greed and that's why the league collapsed all while ignoring that's all college athletics has become is BS.

No mention of the most successful team in BE history either.
 
Just watched it..."Memphis State" kept popping up...73 (Providence), 85 (Nova)
 
Besides no mention of UConn I thought the whole 30 for 30 was horribly made. It's a fascinating subject and they did absolutely nothing with it. It just looked like a poor documentary on the Georgetown Syracuse rivalry. 30 for 30's have been amazing, that's easily the worst one I've seen so far.
 
UofMemphis said:
Just watched it..."Memphis State" kept popping up...73 (Providence), 85 (Nova)
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You guys got more air time than we did. Its anarchy. Its like introducing the metric system to foot long sandwiches.
 
#ESPNExecsWentToCuse

I figured it would be more about the conference forming and the conference crumbling. I never expected that the best team in the conference's history wouldn't even be mentioned.

Would you make an ACC doc without talking about UNC? An SEC football doc and not mention Alabama? How about a Big Twelve doc and not even say a word about Texas? But somehow it's ok to make a Big East doc and not even give UConn so much as- literally- ten seconds of time.
 
OkaForPrez said:
Mandatory 2 hours of study on Lou Carnasecca and St. Johns. Please write up a 1,000 word post on what you've learned.
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I'm more of a blunt communicator…
Well, Lou CarnEsecca graduated from St. Johns in 1950 and coached there from '65-'70 bringing them to 3 NCAA tournaments. He then decided to go pro and coach the ABA Nets, where he won the ABA Championship in '75. Lou then returned to his alma matter and coached there until '92, bringing them to multiple NCAA tournaments and one Final Four in '82. Lou is now 89 years old.
Now do I get a sticker dad?
 
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Inyatkin said:
I wish UConn had been in this crazy conference, the Big East. Looks like it was fun.
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Before JC we were barely in the BE. Post JC we were the most successful team in the conference.
 
you guys don't get the point apparently. it was focused on the pre expansion years... all your glory came after that.
 
Dave Gavitt and the Catholic schools founded a conference. Georgetown with John Thompson and Patrick Ewing made it nationally significant. They hated playing Syracuse and Jim Boeheim. 3 Catholic schools made the final 4 in 1985. Greedy college presidents, especially that bitch from Syracuse, grabbed the big football money and broke up the conference. Georgetown, John Thompson, and the Georgetown head priest had a sad. The End. - 30 for 30 produced, written and directed by a Georgetown graduate. Who misses Syracuse and national relevance, desperately.
 
UofMemphis said:
Just watched it..."Memphis State" kept popping up...73 (Providence), 85 (Nova)
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You guys had more mentions than we did. And you weren't even in the league. I'm seriously appalled.
 
So, were we in the Big East? Because nobody else in the league won more than ONE national championship! They even mentioned Seton Hall's nice run (though they lost). And nobody won more league championships, but they did mention our 6 OT loss!
 
Edge2017 said:
I'm more of a blunt communicator…
Well, Lou CarnEsecca graduated from St. Johns in 1950 and coached there from '65-'70 bringing them to 3 NCAA tournaments. He then decided to go pro and coach the ABA Nets, where he won the ABA Championship in '75. Lou then returned to his alma matter and coached there until '92, bringing them to multiple NCAA tournaments and one Final Four in '82. Lou is now 89 years old.
Now do I get a sticker dad?
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I'm not old enough to be your dad.
 
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peeps said:
you guys don't get the point apparently. it was focused on the pre expansion years... all your glory came after that.
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Oh I get it. The Catholic schools peaked in relevance in 1985 with 3 in the final four. And I'm pretty certain the Georgetown president was one of the ringleaders in turning down the last ESPN contract.
 
huskyblooz said:
So, were we in the Big East? Because nobody else in the league won more than ONE national championship! They even mentioned Seton Hall's nice run (though they lost). And nobody won more league championships, but they did mention our 6 OT loss!
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No that was an ESPN's Jay Bilias having a dream during the commercial
 
peeps said:
you guys don't get the point apparently. it was focused on the pre expansion years... all your glory came after that.
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We understand that it was more about the conference's formative years. But to act like the most successful school in the history of league flat out doesn't exist is utter BS. How about just one thirty second bone about how we once played in the Allen vs Allen game in '96 in the most hyped Big East game of the 90s? Something! Anything!
 
gtown president was right... all of those schools nearly tripled their television revenue.
 
huskyblooz said:
So, were we in the Big East? Because nobody else in the league won more than ONE national championship! They even mentioned Seton Hall's nice run (though they lost). And nobody won more league championships, but they did mention our 6 OT loss!
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No they didn't. That was a Jay Bilas cut out spot that wasn't even officially part of the doc. The official doc didn't say our name once for on court achievements.
 
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MattMang23 said:
We understand that it was more about the conference's formative years. But to act like the most successful school in the history of league flat out doesn't exist is utter BS. How about just one thirty second bone about how we once played in the Allen vs Allen game in '96 in the most hyped Big East game of the 90s? Something! Anything!
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dude... it wasn't about the 90's and 00's (save for the defections from those BC scumbags). those years had less to do with the story and certainly had NOTHING to do with keeping the conference together.
 
This is actually painful to watch and I dont know why I am putting myself through this.
 
peeps said:
dude... it wasn't about the 90's and 00's (save for the defections from those BC scumbags). those years had less to do with the story and certainly had NOTHING to do with keeping the conference together.
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You're right, a bunch of nationally irrelevant Syracuse teams and flameout Georgetown teams from the 90s kept the league afloat after the initial boom. We only got good because those teams allowed us to. Sorry your highness.
 
What's wrong with you people? At least there was a still photo up on the screen for maybe two seconds showing our former AD, John Toner, throwing his hand into the middle of a huddle, with the other athletic directors of the original Big East Conference. And John was right in the middle of them all, sporting a big smile! What more do you want?
 
MattMang23 said:
You're right, a bunch of nationally irrelevant Syracuse teams and flameout Georgetown teams from the 90s kept the league afloat after the initial boom. We only got good because those teams allowed us to. Sorry your highness.
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you really don't get it. basketball had nothing to do with how this conference went following the expansion. you guys were a great program during that time... but it had NOTHING to do with "keeping the conference together".
 
....and there you go. Im sure Connecticut fans who still love ESPN are happy about this documentary. What a shame. Nothing said about the three national championships and how important connecticut was for the late BE to keep that sense of Basketball tradition and quality despite the realignments. Connecticut kept the Big East basketball on a lifeboat by winning those three precious championships but no one that watched would ever know. It was a Georgetown/Syracuse lovefest, at times St. John's and Villanova, a bit providence, lastly like 30 seconds of UCONN material. Connecticut extended the life of the Big East by probably a decade or so with their basketball success, but it wasn't metioned. I hate ESPN, and I hope Fox Sports brings that network down to its knees.
 
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I actually enjoyed it. We need to remember that in the beginning we were the cellar dwellers. It wasn't a chronological history of the life of the conference. It was about the beginning and reasons for the inevitable end. Having gone to almost all the BE tournaments those early games between GT, Cues and St. Johns were the BE conference.

The thing that really hit home for me was how lucky we were to be a part of it and how it gave UCONN the opportunity to accomplish all that we did. I'm sure we all would agree if we were the ones with the opportunity to move with Cues to the ACC instead of Pitt we would have left as well.

It really is sad having been able to follow the conference from day one seeing something that really will never be duplicated die a painful death. After watching, the thing I am the most bitter about is the conference not allowing us to play in the final Big East Tournament, knowing it was the end they should have had us there. Finally it also drove home the point without saying it our future and survival as a national power is certainly not in the AAC.

Greed is a powerful thing!
 
peeps said:
you really don't get it. basketball had nothing to do with how this conference went following the expansion. you guys were a great program during that time... but it had NOTHING to do with "keeping the conference together".
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Thank god we took a pause there to acknolwedege Cuse's 03 championship. That had a lot to do with it.
 
peeps said:
you really don't get it. basketball had nothing to do with how this conference went following the expansion. you guys were a great program during that time... but it had NOTHING to do with "keeping the conference together".
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Because if the league hadn't started playing football, UConn would never have improved? That's your argument?

Please tell me what Georgetown did to "keep the conference together." I'll wait.
 
the 03 championship was only acknowledged because it happened at the exact same time as the defections from BC et al. you guys are really dull sometimes.
 
MattMang23 said:
Because if the league hadn't started playing football, UConn would never have improved? That's your argument?

Please tell me what Georgetown did to "keep the conference together." I'll wait.
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uh... NOTHING. because basketball had NOTHING TO DO WITH KEEPING THE CONFERENCE TOGETHER!! football drove the ship. the 03 defections were the first domino to fall... cuse and pitt was the death knell.
 
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