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bobbyinaz said:
I think the problem is that the remaining 8 would be so screwed in that scenario that they couldn't say yes.

Syracuse, BC, et al, would be way better off grinding the remaining 12 years left on the ACC GOR and collecting $30-40MM/year then facing the after life now. The $350-400MM they would rake in over the remainder of the contract would be much more than they would get in a new world.

While they know the cliff is coming, there is nothing they can really do to stop from driving over the edge.
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Sure they are screwed, just as Kansas, Cal, Oregon, Washington might be screwed. If almost half the conference wants out because they can at least double their take somewhere else and the other half is clinging onto coattails, can the conference really survive for 12 more years? You gotta figure everyone in the conference will suffer over that time one way or another. And let's face it, the likes of Syracuse and Pitt aren't winning butkis in football and their basketball programs are in even worse shape. I think something has to give before the 12 years runs out.

And the definition of screwed is relative. No one needed $100 mill to be competitive up to this point. What, they line their locker rooms with gold and they will be better? There are X number of college kids who will play whether they play at Ohio State, Alabama, or NC State. Kids will still choose Pitt or Baylor over Indiana or Miss State regardless of the unversities' financials.
 
It's a failed experiment. Of all the Big East Football programs which left, only Rutgers, incredibly, is in the show. The others who remained or left for the ACC or Big 12 are in Barney. The Big East will come full circle with a hybrid conference. You heard it here first. Because college basketball just got even better comparatively speaking.
 
Kids will still choose Pitt or Baylor over Indiana or Miss State? Not if Indiana and MIss State are paying kids a salary and have NIL deals lined up. And don't forget the transfer portal. Indiana: Oh hi Mr. Baylor Freshman QB who made an impact on the team this past year. You interested in making $XXX,XXX dollars? Come join the Hoosiers.
 
If the B1G acquires the top half of the PAC 12 teams, will it also acquire the "Conference of Champions" moniker?
 
Rufus said:
Kids will still choose Pitt or Baylor over Indiana or Miss State? Not if Indiana and MIss State are paying kids a salary and have NIL deals lined up. And don't forget the transfer portal. Indiana: Oh hi Mr. Baylor Freshman QB who made an impact on the team this past year. You interested in making $XXX,XXX dollars? Come join the Hoosiers.
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Pitt and Baylor are not allowed to have NIL deals? I didn’t know that.

Actually, big city teams could have big advantages in NIL going forward over rural schools, especially schools in poor states like Mississippi. How many corporations give two deuces about the Mississippi market? The Pittsburgh or central Texas market, on the other hand, have value.

Mississippi State got lucky that the SEC had some great programs the last 20-30 years and a conference of schools representing poor rural states is now considered to be one of the P2. That doesn’t mean Mississippi State has to be successful though.
 
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The South Carolina and Alabama programs feature top 10 NIL deals even if they aren't in major cities.

And Norfolk State's Raquan Smith calls himself the "King of NIL" because of his 70 + NIL deals....

But, of course, it is Miami's commit Jaden Rashada that has signed a $9.5 million NIL deal to lead the NIL pack.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
Pitt and Baylor are not allowed to have NIL deals? I didn’t know that.

Actually, big city teams could have big advantages in NIL going forward over rural schools, especially schools in poor states like Mississippi. How many corporations give two deuces about the Mississippi market? The Pittsburgh or central Texas market, on the other hand, have value.

Mississippi State got lucky that the SEC had some great programs the last 20-30 years and a conference of schools representing poor rural states is now considered to be one of the P2. That doesn’t mean Mississippi State has to be successful though.
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Pitt and Baylor can have NIL deals. But Indiana’s players will have far more media coverage and be on display to America more than Pitt and Baylor, thus having better NIL deals. And Indiana will likely be paying their players a salary that neither Pitt or Baylor can afford.
 
FSU and Maryland were the only ones to vote against the exit fee hike. But a year later FSU did sign off on the GOR.
 
Zissou said:
FSU wanted the GOR and voted for it, right?
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Twice. Perhaps reluctantly, perhaps not. They, along with Maryland, were the only schools to vote against the steep increase in the exit fee, before the GOR was put in place. But it has been a few years and a couple of presidents since FSU signed the GORs. So apparently things have changed.

Not sure what “aggressive” means here. Is Pres. McCullough talking about 2036, when he is no longer president? Is he going to ask their governing board to open up the coffers to get out of the GOR? Is he going to try to recruit other ACC school presidents to try to dissolve the ACC (providing he can get enough, and there is not a poison pill similar to the Big 12 or find a way around it if there is one)? Or is this a ploy to try to get ESPN to pony up some more to look like he is doing something?
 
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Someone should break the bad news to Utah that it’s probably too late to change their fate….

There were plenty of people saying that about the Louisville game November 24, 2012. UConn won. Warde went to the Virgin Islands with the hoops team… Louisville was added by the ACC 4 days later.
 
Kolumbo said:
Sure they are screwed, just as Kansas, Cal, Oregon, Washington might be screwed. If almost half the conference wants out because they can at least double their take somewhere else and the other half is clinging onto coattails, can the conference really survive for 12 more years? You gotta figure everyone in the conference will suffer over that time one way or another. And let's face it, the likes of Syracuse and Pitt aren't winning butkis in football and their basketball programs are in even worse shape. I think something has to give before the 12 years runs out.

And the definition of screwed is relative. No one needed $100 mill to be competitive up to this point. What, they line their locker rooms with gold and they will be better? There are X number of college kids who will play whether they play at Ohio State, Alabama, or NC State. Kids will still choose Pitt or Baylor over Indiana or Miss State regardless of the unversities' financials.
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If UConn is losing close to $50,000,000 a year on sports with a revenue with revenue of $58,000,00
Just imagine what it cost to run a top program . Rutger lost 74,000,000 in 2021
If you don’t have well in excess of $100,000,000 your simply not in the game
At least conference like the B1G or SEC give their taxpayers relief , A program like Alabama brings enough revenue into the State to defray a huge potion of the Schools operating
 
Rufus said:
www.saturdaydownsouth.com

Hayes: Florida game might be most important in Utah's football history

How big is this game? Well, Utah's football future is very much undecided. A statement win at The Swamp would send a loud message. A loss? Devastating.
www.saturdaydownsouth.com

This article talks about Utah needing to make a statement so the B1G will want to add the Utes.
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Oh yes conference realignment is all about one football game in one season. Lol the delusion.
 
DMA's...or number of households, do not readily translate to the numbers that actually view games.

Alabama, Notre Dame, etc are watched much more than UCLA.
 
thesportseconomist.com

Analyzing College Football Television Ratings | Sports Economist

I’m obsessed with conference realignment, and the influence that big money television contracts have had on college football. Ever since the NCAA lost the
thesportseconomist.com thesportseconomist.com


"The article is a guest post by Dr. Dan Kuester, the Director of Undergraduate Studies, and the Roger Trenary Chair for Excellence in Economic Instruction at Kansas State University."
 
The less populated SEC south does a lot better in TV viewing of college football than the DMA's would themselves indicate. Thus high ratings from SEC matchups.
 
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Hoophound said:
Given our team the last 12 years, is that even bad? I mean, we have been abysmal. Why would any average fan watch us?
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Who watches Rutgers? To this point it’s not about watching it’s about billing.
 
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