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I am anxiously awaiting the carousel music to start playing and the phrase "any port in a storm" to become part of the lexicon for certain schools and their media darlings.
 
ScottVib said:
They'll be an adjustment. The SEC does and will continue to suck up a lot of talent.. but they'll also spit a lot of it back up. You may get your deal as a hot recruit, but once you find yourself buried on the bench a couple of years, no booster is paying you money to block up a scholarship and you can't make the league from the bench.

I think there will be constant churn, the SEC will transfer in a bunch of big talent guys and soak up big recruits. They're going to spit out a lot of big talent guys who never get their break or who get recruited/transferred over.
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It is more significant than that. Players need to play to get paid NIL. I think a lot more kids will be less enamored of the brigth lights of the SEC and a few thousand in an envelope when they can go somewhere else and start and make real money.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I am anxiously awaiting the carousel music to start playing and the phrase "any port in a storm" to become part of the lexicon for certain schools and their media darlings.
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Would "a harbor in a tempest" suffice? :)
 
Unless the GOR's can be vamoosed the break up of the big 12 will not hit every conference. Schools will covet the money but contractually they will be stuck. Players will still want to be on the field, and sitting the bench in SEC programs that are getting drilled by the top dogs of the conference so that University's can make big dineros will not change this. I have been watching less college football lately due to the amount of blowouts that occur. The NFL has been more entertaining with the head coach and QB dynamics being in the lead. Watching college mismatches is a waste of time quite frankly. Players wanting to get on the field could help keep the game alive outside the new cabal.
 
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The big changes coming to sports markets are the streaming services like Netflix, Amazon, YouTube,... Amazon and Google (YouTube) have much larger market caps than Disney:

Amazon = $1.9 Trillion
Google = $1.8 Trillion
Disney = $325 billion

Some other competitors: Comcast = $278 billion, Viacom (CBS) = $27 billion, Netflix = $229 billion

When the streaming services go fully after sports, the legacy companies will be in a difficult battle and I would expect the value of some sports rights to surge again as you now have new deep pocket bidders.

Amazon signed a 10 year deal with the NFL for Thursday Night football starting in 2023. In my opinion, this is just the start.
 
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I think the fact that Texas=Oklahoma are invited to okay in the 2025-26 season in the SEC leads some credence to the GOR...if you don't break one with a few years left, when will you?
 
billybud said:
I think the fact that Texas=Oklahoma are invited to okay in the 2025-26 season in the SEC leads some credence to the GOR...if you don't break one with a few years left, when will you?
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I think if X number of schools leave the conference at the same time, the conference is dissolved and GOR is meaningless. For the B12, I believe it's 4. Not sure what is for the ACC. If it is something doable, you bet your butt Fox or someone else will try to destroy the conference like what ESPN did to the old Big East and now to the B12.
 
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The full FSU quotes from the President say a lot more than some have tweeted...

In full context it sounds different.

“At the end of the day, it’s all about money,” Thrasher said. “It’s all about TV revenue, contracts. Nobody can leave a conference without a significant buyout penalty, including us, so it would have to be something very special for us to leave.

“On the other hand, that doesn’t mean we can’t attract some other people. I think the ACC, when you put the academic side of what it’s about today against any of the other conferences, we’re head and shoulders above, I think. That, to me, is attractive to some of the universities out there. Preparation, options, all that’s on the table. We’re getting prepared for whatever happens.

“The Oklahoma, Texas thing, in my opinion, is the tip of the iceberg. It’s there, but it’s certainly going to be much broader than that when it’s said and done.”


Saying that...I am a little woried that the incoming President is not a sports guy...Vice Provost for Research at Harvard...former Vice Provost for Research at Carnegie Mellon.
 
UConnJim said:
The big changes coming to sports markets are the streaming services like Netflix, Amazon, YouTube,... Amazon and Google (YouTube) have much larger market caps than Disney:

Amazon = $1.9 Trillion
Google = $1.8 Trillion
Disney = $325 billion

Some other competitors: Comcast = $278 billion, Viacom (CBS) = $27 billion, Netflix = $229 billion

When the streaming services go fully after sports, the legacy companies will be in a difficult battle and I would expect the value of some sports rights to surge again as you now have new deep pocket bidders.

Amazon signed a 10 year deal with the NFL for Thursday Night football starting in 2023. In my opinion, this is just the start.
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They aren't going to just throw that money out there for no reason. In the beginning, back in the 70's every school negotiated its own deals. Then that shifted to conferences, which lead to expansion and mergers (Big 8 and SWC). What streaming does, most likely, is bring us closer to the original model. But conferences matter because Alabama playing Western Kentucky isn't must see TV, while Georgia playing Florida is. I think this is behind the move from OU and UT, they need better quality opponents. A&M may have bitched about this, but just as BC stupidly didn't want UConn in its conference, A&M needs to play Texas and vice versa.

What won't matter is your TV market. Anybody talking about local TV markets is living in the past. In the future model, the B1G adding Rutgers was a mistake. UConn has better name recognition nationally, by far. I even think our dumb husky football helmets were an attempt to make us memorable, just as Boise's blue field is, and Orgeon's crazy uniforms are. It just wasn't executed very well, and Diaco was the coach.
 
billybud said:
The full FSU quotes from the President say a lot more than some have tweeted...

In full context it sounds different.

“At the end of the day, it’s all about money,” Thrasher said. “It’s all about TV revenue, contracts. Nobody can leave a conference without a significant buyout penalty, including us, so it would have to be something very special for us to leave.

“On the other hand, that doesn’t mean we can’t attract some other people. I think the ACC, when you put the academic side of what it’s about today against any of the other conferences, we’re head and shoulders above, I think. That, to me, is attractive to some of the universities out there. Preparation, options, all that’s on the table. We’re getting prepared for whatever happens.

“The Oklahoma, Texas thing, in my opinion, is the tip of the iceberg. It’s there, but it’s certainly going to be much broader than that when it’s said and done.”


Saying that...I am a little woried that the incoming President is not a sports guy...Vice Provost for Research at Harvard...former Vice Provost for Research at Carnegie Mellon.
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Thrasher, stop! The "A" in ACC doesn't stand for academics. Give me a break.
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Thrasher, stop! The "A" in ACC doesn't stand for academics. Give me a break.
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Maybe you aren't informed, or are just spewing (and I get that)...but even with the anchor of Louisville...

GREENSBORO, N.C. (theACC.com) – For the 14th consecutive year, the Atlantic Coast Conference leads the way among Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) conferences in the “Best Colleges” rankings released by U.S. News & World Report.

  • The ACC has led the FBS conferences in best average rank in each of the last 14 years.
  • The ACC's five schools ranked in the top 30 are the most among FBS conferences.
  • The ACC’s two schools among the top 20 of this year’s rankings ties for the most among peer conferences.
  • The ACC is also the only FBS conference with eight member institutions among the top 50 – four more than any peer league.
 
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billybud said:
Maybe you aren't informed, or are just spewing (and I get that)...but even with the anchor of Louisville...

GREENSBORO, N.C. (theACC.com) – For the 14th consecutive year, the Atlantic Coast Conference leads the way among Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) conferences in the “Best Colleges” rankings released by U.S. News & World Report.

  • The ACC has led the FBS conferences in best average rank in each of the last 14 years.
  • The ACC's five schools ranked in the top 30 are the most among FBS conferences.
  • The ACC’s two schools among the top 20 of this year’s rankings ties for the most among peer conferences.
  • The ACC is also the only FBS conference with eight member institutions among the top 50 – four more than any peer league.
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Thanks for copy and pasting their press release.... maybe I think of academics as more than an FBS population. :)
 
CTFAN4LIFE said:
Thanks for copy and pasting their press release.... maybe I think of academics as more than an FBS population. :)
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OK....

But there is also a lot of regional bias in thinking....like "No, it isn't possible that Miami and FSU are ranked higher than Penn State..."
 
billybud said:
Maybe you aren't informed, or are just spewing (and I get that)...but even with the anchor of Louisville...

GREENSBORO, N.C. (theACC.com) – For the 14th consecutive year, the Atlantic Coast Conference leads the way among Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) conferences in the “Best Colleges” rankings released by U.S. News & World Report.

  • The ACC has led the FBS conferences in best average rank in each of the last 14 years.
  • The ACC's five schools ranked in the top 30 are the most among FBS conferences.
  • The ACC’s two schools among the top 20 of this year’s rankings ties for the most among peer conferences.
  • The ACC is also the only FBS conference with eight member institutions among the top 50 – four more than any peer league.
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Nonsense rankings. Please.

A few good schools doesn't rival the up and down the board schools in the B1G.
 
billybud said:
OK....

But there is also a lot of regional bias in thinking....like "No, it isn't possible that Miami and FSU are ranked higher than Penn State..."
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Penn State dwarfs both schools combined not only in research, but Carnegie rankings of departments. PSU does over a billion in research expenditures YEARLY.
 
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