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2021 Recruiting: Rahsool Diggins virtual visit

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Mr. French said:
Interesting what he says - "most of them say the same thing, come in and play, put the ball in my hands ... except Villanova, they say you have to buy in first, so they're a bit different, that's more of a challenge."
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Cole will be a senior starter in 2021 so Diggins wouldnt be able to just "come in and play" here either, (he'd have to wait a year before he could start lol). Sounds like a good challenge/compromise to me.
 
WhartonHusky said:
I see a slightly less athletic AJ Price. But seems to be smooth and under control at all times.
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That's a pretty solid comp, just based on some highlights I'm seeing. Shifty but not insanely athletic, under control and really quick movements, with good body control in the paint.
 
bendm said:
Cole will be a senior starter in 2021 so Diggins wouldnt be able to just "come in and play" here either, (he'd have to wait a year before he could start lol). Sounds like a good challenge/compromise to me.
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Well he's saying most schools are giving him that same old spiel.

It's not necessarily about who's in front of him, guys can come in and play right away regardless of starting or not, but he's saying the messaging at Nova is different: you're not getting PT until you prove you have bought in to what we're preaching.

I like that and I think it's not surprising based on what I know about Nova and Jay Wright.
 
Mr. French said:
Well he's saying most schools are giving him that same old spiel.

It's not necessarily about who's in front of him, guys can come in and play right away regardless of starting or not, but he's saying the messaging at Nova is different: you're not getting PT until you prove you have bought in to what we're preaching.
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Sure i get it. That's definitely a luxury of having NBA upperclassman on the roster though. Hurley is doing the same thing here, as we saw with Vital, Rique, and Sid, in particular. Trying to get guys he didn't recruit to buy in while balancing the need to stay competitive is a tougher job
 
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Hurley‘s been coaching for over twenty years and recruiting at the college level for fourteen years (ten as a head coach). He’s not new. He promises opportunities, not minutes. Right now, Rahsool wants to go to Villanova. I hope that changes. But, we need to understand that no one, when relaying these recruiting conversations, is 100% truthful and unbiased.
 
NJHoops said:
Hurley‘s been coaching for over twenty years and recruiting at the college level for fourteen years (ten as a head coach). He’s not new. He promises opportunities, not minutes. Right now, Rahsool wants to go to Villanova. I hope that changes. But, we need to understand that no one, when relaying these recruiting conversations, is 100% truthful and unbiased.
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Agreed - I don't think Rahsool even said it in a way that schools were promising him minutes - he just distinguished Nova's message from the other programs.
 
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Mr. French said:
Agreed - I don't think Rahsool even said it in a way that schools were promising him minutes - he just distinguished Nova's message from the other programs.
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It stood out to him because that’s where he wants to go.
 
It sucks that we're into so many of the same recruits as Nova in '21. Seems like until Hurley shows some post-season success, it'll continue to be an uphill battle.
 
NJHoops said:
It stood out to him because that’s where he wants to go.
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ok. Again, not disagreeing or saying anything opposing what you're saying. I think I'm actually agreeing with everything you're saying. I am not in any way even discussing his prospects of landing w/ UConn vs. Nova, or who leads right now, and I'd defer to you on any of that anyway even if I was making guesses. I am simply discussing the words he said in this interview, the subject of the thread.
 
Dooooooomed said:
It sucks that we're into so many of the same recruits as Nova in '21. Seems like until Hurley shows some post-season success, it'll continue to be an uphill battle.
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This. Even a great regular season in the BE and everyone will be saying "UConn's back", and these recruiting conversations will be able to get to another level. (Not to mention Bouk solidifying himself as a first rounder. )
 
bendm said:
Cole will be a senior starter in 2021 so Diggins wouldnt be able to just "come in and play" here either, (he'd have to wait a year before he could start lol). Sounds like a good challenge/compromise to me.
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If he’s ready he could Be one of 2 PGs starting depending on who else is around so it’s not impossible he could start. But most likely would need to prove himself for a while.
 
Dooooooomed said:
It sucks that we're into so many of the same recruits as Nova in '21. Seems like until Hurley shows some post-season success, it'll continue to be an uphill battle.
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Nova will be a top 15 team as long as Jay Wright is there. Losing recruiting battles to them won’t be the end of the world.
 
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With all that being said, UConn is expected to make his list. There are going to be so many mistakes made with this ‘21 class on both sides. If the seasons can play out with any type of normalcy, UConn’s reduced travel this season will at least make it a little easier to get out to see anyone who chooses not to commit in the Fall.
 
Dooooooomed said:
It sucks that we're into so many of the same recruits as Nova in '21. Seems like until Hurley shows some post-season success, it'll continue to be an uphill battle.
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I mean that's fair though. All things being equal, if I had an offer from Villanova and UConn, I'd probably head to Philly too. Jay Wright is a brilliant, proven coach. Hurley is too, but outside of UConn nation people don't know that yet.
 
NJHoops said:
Hurley‘s been coaching for over twenty years and recruiting at the college level for fourteen years (ten as a head coach). He’s not new. He promises opportunities, not minutes. Right now, Rahsool wants to go to Villanova. I hope that changes. But, we need to understand that no one, when relaying these recruiting conversations, is 100% truthful and unbiased.
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What happens if they take Keels?
 
kansashusky said:
What happens if they take Keels?
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i dont see why wright wouldnt try to get all four of diggins/longino/keels/patterson...

diggins at point, longino and keels on the wing, and patterson at stretch 4
 
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husky429 said:
I mean that's fair though. All things being equal, if I had an offer from Villanova and UConn, I'd probably head to Philly too. Jay Wright is a brilliant, proven coach. Hurley is too, but outside of UConn nation people don't know that yet.
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I don’t think that last part is true, including saying that every UConn fan thinks he‘s good. They don’t. The Wright being better part certainly is true, but I don’t get downplaying what Hurley’s done (and for how long) and how he’s viewed in the sport. I think what he did at URI is more impressive than anything he’s done in the last two years. For UConn, the best thing that can happen is no one chooses somewhere else too early, and they have the chance to get these guys on campus in the Fall. A quiet summer (on a couple different fronts) would not be the worst thing to happen. Everyone was feeling good about Sanogo- and rightfully so- but they had built an in-person relationship with him despite him never making it to campus.
 
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husky429 said:
I mean that's fair though. All things being equal, if I had an offer from Villanova and UConn, I'd probably head to Philly too. Jay Wright is a brilliant, proven coach. Hurley is too, but outside of UConn nation people don't know that yet.
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Come again? You're a UConn fan and you'd play for Villanova?
 
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UCTitleTown said:
Come again? You're a UConn fan and you'd play for Villanova?
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I would suit up for Hurley in a millisecond. Being a UConn fan is one or those "all things being equal" exemptions. I'm talking about a purely objective perspective. Which of course recruiting isn't, to be fair.

Basically saying if I was a talented 17 yr old with 0 fan allegiances, nova looks better on paper
 
husky429 said:
I would suit up for Hurley in a millisecond. Being a UConn fan is one or those "all things being equal" exemptions. I'm talking about a purely objective perspective. Which of course recruiting isn't, to be fair.
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I completely know what you mean, and completely agree.

I always play the game in my head, "right now, if I was a top 25 recruit and had mostly my pick of the litter, and I'm exactly the person I am right now except I'm a 17 year old HS junior, what would I do?"

I think UConn and Villanova are my top 2 - when Beilein was at UM they are probably in there, and obviously who knows other factors, but just going on that made up fantasy stuff, I'd always end up picking UConn but Nova is always one that I'd consider strongly.
 
NJHoops said:
Hurley‘s been coaching for over twenty years and recruiting at the college level for fourteen years (ten as a head coach). He’s not new. He promises opportunities, not minutes. Right now, Rahsool wants to go to Villanova. I hope that changes. But, we need to understand that no one, when relaying these recruiting conversations, is 100% truthful and unbiased.
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recruiting at URI and Wagner is not recruiting against the upper tier
There's a HUGE difference
Wright has the experience, thus the advantage
Talk to J Calhoun about recruiting in the upper level the first 1/2 dozen years
Can Dan Hurley do it? eventually for sure, but now he is lucky to have TM and others who have that upper tier experience at top tier schools. Good things have happened- better things to come
 
UConn is still the bigger name. Villanova is great under Wright but a big season from UConn will give Hurley most of what he needs to compete with him. There is a large number of great players in the Northeast and we can certainly share the bounty with Nova and both be in good shape. UConn/Nova should become a top notch rivalry over the next several years.
 
Hoophound said:
UConn is still the bigger name. Villanova is great under Wright but a big season from UConn will give Hurley most of what he needs to compete with him. There is a large number of great players in the Northeast and we can certainly share the bounty with Nova and both be in good shape. UConn/Nova should become a top notch rivalry over the next several years.
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One of the best things is if the UConn-Vil games are real battles with excellent play going both ways that UConn pull out right at the end. Thinking about it, that is one of the things I have missed the most. The gargantuan struggles and even when down a few, knowing in my mind we can do it. Sitting on the edge of my seat willing the guys to get a rebound, make a play. Miss it so much.
 
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gtcam said:
recruiting at URI and Wagner is not recruiting against the upper tier
There's a HUGE difference
Wright has the experience, thus the advantage
Talk to J Calhoun about recruiting in the upper level the first 1/2 dozen years
Can Dan Hurley do it? eventually for sure, but now he is lucky to have TM and others who have that upper tier experience at top tier schools. Good things have happened- better things to come
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Wright’s won a championship and Villanova hasn’t had to restructure itself over the last few years. That’s the advantage. It’s not who you’re recruiting against that’s the huge difference, it’s what you can sell to recruits. The difference is not having to sell a program that hadn’t made the tournament in 20 years and still doesn’t have facilities comparable to the conference’s best, and somehow managing to beat out BE and Power 5 teams for a few players. He had the best coaches in the game come through his gym with their assorted pitches in the past. He’s heard it all from the other side, and it’s all the same.

Rahsool has some some solid trainers around him. His school is outside of the city, but he lives in Philly. Hopefully those outside nets come back safely and soon. A lot of local players have recently opted to leave Philly for high school ball, glad he’s stayed home.
 
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NJHoops said:
Wright’s won a championship and Villanova hasn’t had to restructure itself over the last few years. That’s the advantage. It’s not who you’re recruiting against that’s the huge difference, it’s what you can sell to recruits. The difference is not having to sell a program that hadn’t made the tournament in 20 years and still doesn’t have facilities comparable to the conference’s best, and somehow managing to beat out BE and Power 5 teams for a few players. He had the best coaches in the game come through his gym with their assorted pitches in the past. He’s heard it all from the other side, and it’s all the same.

Rahsool has some some solid trainers around him. His school is outside of the city, but he lives in Philly. Hopefully those outside nets come back safely and soon. A lot of local players have recently opted to leave Philly for high school ball, glad he’s stayed home.
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Wright's won 2 championships.
 
NJHoops said:
Hurley‘s been coaching for over twenty years and recruiting at the college level for fourteen years (ten as a head coach). He’s not new. He promises opportunities, not minutes. Right now, Rahsool wants to go to Villanova. I hope that changes. But, we need to understand that no one, when relaying these recruiting conversations, is 100% truthful and unbiased.
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We need guards. Who do you believe we have the best chance with? We don’t seem to be leading with any of these top 100 kids. Grad transfer for next year looking likely?
 
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