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Yeah. That last title really pushed him off the ledge, didn’t it?
I can’t say if it is accurate or not, but he says he gets modded here and if he posts they are all subject to moderator approval and sit for days before approval, if at all. FarmerJ is one of a kind, but not a bad dude for a PC fan. He posted here for years and seemed to put up with all the abuse any opposing fan has coming his way when they post on the boneyard , so his story may have credence . But maybe the back to backs did break him, could be possible too. Plus at this point he has to be really old. . Maybe he cant see the screen any more. Working the south county farms for a good portion of life takes its toll.
 
I can’t say if it is accurate or not, but he says he gets modded here and if he posts they are all subject to moderator approval and sit for days before approval, if at all. FarmerJ is one of a kind, but not a bad dude for a PC fan. He posted here for years and seemed to put up with all the abuse any opposing fan has coming his way when they post on the boneyard , so his story may have credence . But maybe the back to backs did break him, could be possible too. Plus at this point he has to be really old. . Maybe he cant see the screen any more. Working the south county farms for a good portion of life takes its toll.
I don’t know about any of that. His posts got more and more angry, we won again and he doesn’t post anymore.
 
If Hopkins doesn't play against UConn, and can count this year as a redshirt, I wouldn't be surprised if he shuts it down for the year. It's selfish, but playing could only hurt him. The team is bad, he isn't looking like a big NBA prospect this year, and he could save a year of NIL from another program (and he probably already got a bunch from Providence this year).

People talk about how NIL and transfers no longer needing to sit out a year has made it much easier for a new coach to turn around a program. They don't talk as much about how those same developments can derail a program (and its coach) just as quickly. Kim English could be headed for trouble.

You could well be right on this and if so, I wish him the best. He is exceptional in so many ways. Reminds me of Eric Dixson in this regard. These kind of guys are always nightmares for opposing coaches. They play at such a consistent rate in all facets
when they are on the floor.
 
Samson had 3, 3, 2 and 4 total rebounds in the last 4 games. That's on him. But that's ok, he also has stayed away from foul trouble in the last few games. I would normally take that trade of, but now without Liam we are going to need our center to collect more rebounds than our point guard. I think that is a fair expectation to have.
Great post!

Not sure why there are expectations for Samson to rebound more. He is not a physical presence and he doesn’t have the hands. He is a change of pace center who is also not a reliable rim protector and asking him to do more exacerbates the defensive liabilities in the backcourt. Tarris is that physical presence and needs to start now and when Liam returns to minimize the rebounding/rim protection liabilities.
 
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PC has lost 7 of their last 9, is 314th in the country in scoring and bottom 20% in many statistical categories. They are a bad basketball team.
 
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PC has lost 7 of their last 9, is 314th in the country in scoring and bottom 20% in many statistical categories. They are a bad basketball team.

But as we all know and have seen “UConn” being on the other jersey, these “bad” players find their one A game for the year. Always be prepared for unexpected hero coming out after averaging 4.2 a game. And without Liam we don’t have the rhythm on offense that we see with him on the court.

This one won’t be easy it’s just the norm!
 
But as we all know and have seen “UConn” being on the other jersey, these “bad” players find their one A game for the year. Always be prepared for unexpected hero coming out after averaging 4.2 a game. And without Liam we don’t have the rhythm on offense that we see with him on the court.

This one won’t be easy it’s just the norm!
Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
 
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Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp sticks with do tell anyone with make believe “beer”.

Won’t be an easy game for you then either best of luck fighting those Bud Zeroes!
 
Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
I’m very sorry for your loss - heart goes out to you.
 
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Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
Terrific way to honor her memory (and tasty too!).
 
Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.
Right about shutting them down early.
We're their two games of the year plus they'll be spurred on by their intense hatred of the successful big brother next door.
You can never figure how a team can win a game they shouldn't win without considering emotions and Floyd will help pump them up.
 
Boy. Not much discussion about that up and comer wunderkind Kim English anymore, huh? That was short lived....
My PC neighbor was very excited about him last year and is a very knowledgeable former player (Bulkeley) who played pickup games against John Thompson at PC back in the day.
He's been down on English almost from game one this year though, and can't understand some of the personnel decisions they made if they have all the NIL money they were reputed to have.
He went from we have the lord on our side (Christ Essandoko) to "Christ, what were they thinking?"
 
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Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
So sorry to hear about your wife.
My wife, in an effort to control her calories, tried and likes Athletic
IPA so you might want to add that to your menu.
 
My PC neighbor was very excited about him last year and is a very knowledgeable former player (Bulkeley) who played pickup games against John Thompson at PC back in the day.
He's been down on English almost from game one this year though, and can't understand some of the personnel decisions they made if they have all the NIL money they were reputed to have.
He went from we have the lord on our side (Christ Essandoko) to "Christ, what were they thinking?"
It’s a longstanding PC tradition to overhype their coach going back to Tim Welsh. Their board at the time actually said he’d end up better than Calhoun.
 
Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
Condolences to you for your loss. I know the mentality. When my wife was having emergency surgery for her brain aneurysm I ordered my usual chicken sandwich at BGood, but instead of the regular fresh hand cut fries, I got the fresh hand cut sweet potato fries because that is what she normally ordered. She is alive and has recovered nicely, but like I said I understand the mentality as at that moment she was close to death.
 
Yeah you have a pretty good take on that. Im not sure Hopkins is able to redshirt, hard to sort out what any rules actually are these days. But if he can, I don't think you see him at PC next year no matter what. You're not wrong about English, he preached getting "13 dudes" after having obvious depth issues last year past Carter and Oduro, and from all accounts was given a pretty fat checkbook to get some players out of the portal. It seems that they are all misses to varying degrees.

Essandoko is a disaster and is pretty much benched and was supposed to be their starting center. Abdur-Rahim not getting much run now, was supposed to be a lights out three guy but hes not making them at a good clip and is so soft in other aspects of the game he is virtually unplayable. Wes Cardet was talked up as a big scorer that they were looking to maybe be a lead scorer, but his overall floor game is wildly inconsistent. He has some good flashes but overall has been disappointing to this point. However his style of play is one that fits the Memphis/Colorado mode of attack against us, so he possibly could cause some issues Sunday. Hard to keep from the rim one on one. Bensley Joseph is the 4th portal guy and to my eye the only one who has delivered anything to PC from the portal, been decent, but its not like hes setting the world on fire either, just more or less a serviceable guard along with Pierre.

That's a lot of swings and misses, and while that can happen and does happen (not every portal player turns out like Cam Spencer as we well know) , that is when floor coaching gets put in the spotlight, and thus far English, while taking accountability for the poor play, has looked like a deer in the headlights at times, and doesn't seem to be adjusting the team away from what they are failing at and making adjustments. THAT is where a coach butters his bread. I won't entirely write off their season yet, it is almost a annual Providence tradition that they are pretty bad OOC and in early season and then amass some wins in the middle of conference season. This year feels different and its hard to see them turning around something this bad (losing 7 of 9) but things happen. Nova seems to be turning it around a bit this season. English is a young guy with a good energy and seems to be a good recruiter, so he can afford a bad year, but he will definitely be under a microscope next season if this season plays out how it's feeling.
Yes if this season plays out poorly he will definitely be under a microscope next year. Like you stated, PC has a good NIL fund and players such as Christ Essandoko,Jabri Abdur Rahim, Wesley Cardet Jr, and Justyn Fernandez are not exactly lighting the world on fire. Cardet Jr, has been soldi, but the Essandoko and JAR have been a disaster up to this point and these are players English chose to use his NIL for in the transfer portal. Bensley Joseph has been good and he is their #1 option, especially in clutch, high pressure, need a basket situations.

I was watching the Dayton-George Washington game earlier today that GW won by a 20 pt blowout. Guess who averages close to a double-double. Rafael Castro, who played at PC the last 2 years. He looked like such as scrub at PC. Why were Cooley and English unable to get so little out of him? That's not a good look for English.

 
Do we know if Hopkins is playing tomorrow? This makes it sound like there's a chance he'll play.

"Bryce had a catastrophic knee injury on Jan. 3 (of 2024) -- catastrophic," English said. "And when he's back we're not going to risk re-injury there. He's doing everything in his power to get back. He had a good day (Monday), about half the practice, and hopefully he'll do more (this week) to get ready for Connecticut on Sunday."


Saw this in the Providence Journal article on the game:
Providence won't issue an update on Hopkins until pregame Sunday and Carter isn't walking through that door.
 
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Historically Providence has usually been a rock fight. As
long as we we win this likely rock fight tomorrow all will be ok. For medical reason I am not allowed alcohol so I will forced to wash down my by standard game food of chicken wings and shrimp on sticks with do not tell anyone with make believe “beer”. I am ashamed. My wife who loved to have shrimp during UCONN BB games passed away so I have shrimp in addition to chicken wings in her honor.
So sorry for your loss. We always get wings for each game but we’ll be adding shrimp to our order tomorrow. Let’s go huskies!
 
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Condolences to you for your loss. I know the mentality. When my wife was having emergency surgery for her brain aneurysm I ordered my usual chicken sandwich at BGood, but instead of the regular fresh hand cut fries, I got the fresh hand cut sweet potato fries because that is what she normally ordered. She is alive and has recovered nicely, but like I said I understand the mentality as at that moment she was close to death.
May God.watch over your wife and best of health to both of you.
 
So sorry to hear about your wife.
My wife, in an effort to control her calories, tried and likes Athletic
IPA so you might want to add that to your menu.
That is alchohol free I assume based on your recommendation.
 
That is alchohol free I assume based on your recommendation.
Pretty close. I think its .05% alcohol. I drink it as a beer substitute on a random monday. But if you have a health or other issue that precludes you from having ANY alcohol, it might not be for you
 
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Some key updates after last matchup:
  • Providence has lost six of its last seven, including recent 21 point losses to Georgetown and a 30 point loss to Marquette.
  • 5Y forward Jabri Abdur-Rahim is out for the year with a knee injury (7.2 ppg, 36 3P%)
  • Sophomore big Christ Essandoko has missed time intermittently through the last few weeks due to an ankle injury (10.6 mpg in Big East play)
  • Wesley Cardet missed six of last ten games with a knee injury
  • Still no Hopkins (3 games played this season)

Basically, Providence's best shot to win the game is to get hot from three as the Friars' perimeter offense has been solid in conference play. The backcourt duo of Joseph/Pierre is quite good and there are a bunch of supporting guys (I'm a fan of Mela and can see him be an impact starter as an upper-classman), but this team is a shell of itself.
 
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