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After a solid 21-win season surmounting the season ending injury to star forward Bryce Hopkins, the start to Kim English’s second season at Providence has not gone very well. Losers of seven of their last nine games, English has been juggling lineups all season with junior guard Jayden Pierre being the only Friar who has started every game. In fact, since Bryce Hopkins’ return to the injured list, Providence has put out different starting lineups in four straight games.

Before jumping into the scouting report, it’s important to check in on Hopkins. It’s almost been a full year since his ACL injury and Hopkins made his season debut 12/3 against BYU, but he’s been out of the lineup after just three games. Following Providence’s matchup against Marquette, English said at the post-game: “[Hopkins] came down hard on his knee against DePaul, it swelled up. Everything structurally is fine, he’s just working to have less and less pain each day…We’ll see him when he feels good, healthy and strong. When he comes back, we’re not going to risk re-injuring his knee.” Reading between the lines, I’d be very surprised if Hopkins returns before Sunday. So far this season, Providence is 0-6 against KenPom Top-125 teams without Hopkins in the lineup, so this team is struggling without him.
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In Hopkins’ absence, Providence’s backcourt has been the team’s more solid unit, led by the combo guard duo of junior Jayden Pierre and senior Miami transfer Bentley Joseph.

Stepping into the spotlight vacated by Devin Carter, Pierre is an all-around solid guard whose shooting efficiency numbers have been strong all season. A smart, composed scorer, PIerre does not force shots and he is capable of scoring from anywhere in the halfcourt, however, his slight frame makes him a more frequent perimeter threat than a penetrator. More of a scoring guard than a distributor, Pierre still struggles with his gaffs as a point guard, as Pierre has only nine more assists this season than turnovers. Solid defender.

A pass-first, defensive specialist for his career at Miami, Hopkins’ injury has forced Bentley Joseph to become more of a scorer at Providence, and this added responsibility has not negatively affected his efficiency. Like Pierre, Joseph is comfortable scoring from anywhere in the halfcourt and the thickly built bulldog of a defender can lock down for 94-feet.

Senior transfer Wesley Cardet has been an injection of offense after starring as Chicago State’s principal scorer the past two seasons at Chicago State. So far, Cardet’s three-point shooting success this season seems a bit flukey (33% entering this season, 43% this season), but with his combination of size and length, Cardet is a strong finisher at the rim and he does a nice job drawing fouls with his slashing ability. In Hopkins’ absence, Carder is forced to play more at the 4, but he lacks the physicality of Hopkins and Cardet is also one of Providence’s weakest defenders.

Off-ball, Providence returns thickly built guards/wings Corey Floyd and Rich Barron. According to KenPom.com, Corey Floyd ranks as Providence’s most efficient player on offense, rooted in his low turnover rate and strong 59 2P%. Not a strong perimeter scorer, Floyd does a good job utilizing his strength and footwork to outmuscle less physical 2s and 3s, and with career highs in fouls drawn per 40 and free throw rates, Floyd is demonstrating that, despite his low usage rate, he can be a load to guard within 15 feet and he’s also a very strong positional rebounder. Similar to last year, Barron is a low-usage spacer on offense but he’s been struggling with his three-point shot (31% vs 43% last season). With the worst defensive metrics on the team, Barron is very physical on defense, but his below-average footwork and athleticism makes him susceptible to getting in foul trouble (4.6 fouls charged per 40).

Like Barron last season, Ryan Mela is an unheralded freshman (#286 by 247, 20+ mid-major offers, but Providence is only high-major offer) who has quickly settled into a key role off the bench. The 6’6 Mela plays similarly to the types of recruits Ed Cooley liked to bring in: versatile on offense, can play multiple positions, and is active on the defensive end. Currently, he ranks as Providence’s most efficient defender.

With Hopkins out, the frontcourt has been an experiment of mixing and matching raw, young bigs with mostly 6’5-6’7 players listed above (Carder, Mela and even Barron in spells) getting minutes at the four with fifth-year transfer Jabri Abdur-Rahim surprisingly not able to make an impact yet after averaging 12.2 ppg last season with Georgia. Mostly a spacer at Georgia, JAR has hit only 28% of his threes so far and he also possesses the ability to slash and attack the rim. It’s hard to imagine him struggling throughout the entire season.

Another player who has been a surprising disappointment is Saint Joseph’s transfer, and former UConn target, Christ Essandoko. Playing in ten or less minutes in his previous three games, the 7’0 290 Essandoko did not play the last game due to an undisclosed injury. Despite his massive frame, Essandoko was a heavily recruited transfer thanks to the potential he shows in his skill and footwork.

Essandoko has taken a backseat to ‘25 reclass freshman Oswin Erhunmwunse and JUCO addition Anton Bonke. Finishing his high school career at PSA, Erhunmwunse was ranked the #40 prospect of ‘25 by 247 and is noted for his above-the-rim athleticism and defensive length, but he is incredibly raw on the offensive end. In contrast, the 7’2 270 Bonke is a raw low-post project after starting his athletic journey in rowing growing up in Vanuatu (I just googled it, never heard of it). Earning his first start against St. John’s, Bonke has averaged about 13 mpg over the last three, so he’ll be needed Sunday if Essandoko is out. Overall, the center rotation is arguably the least refined in the Big East.

Despite how the lineups will shake out, Providence runs a slow pace on both sides of the ball and are much better on defense than offense. Overall, Providence tries to win the three-point battle, currently in the top-20 in 3PA/FGA on offense (49.2%), and top-50 in 3PA/FGA on defense (34.4%), and they routinely lose the turnover battle (they give up 6% more turnovers than what they force), so there might be plenty of opportunity for UConn to run off transition. In addition to their three-point prevention, Providence also does a nice job forcing isolation offense and make life difficult for shooters (top-50 national ranks in A/FGM, 2P% and 3P% defense).

With a lack of star power, Providence will continue to struggle on the offensive end as they will look to win games with their defense, at least until Hopkins returns.
 
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Thanks for the writeup and noting the St. John's game was tight, but was a home game for Providence. Otherwise they have not been that competitive.

For us, it's a home game, home crowd, but TBD on Liam so we might see extended Jay-brothers (Stewart, Ross) at the 3...I believe the MRI is today and hoping it's just a bruise and nothing structural.
 
With or without Liam this is a game we should win comfortably at home. Only variable would be whether Hopkins plays or not. Even if he did would likely see rust. PC barely putting up a fight this year, fanbase has thrown in towel.
 
Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.
 
Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.
Maybe, but you’d have thought you might see that at home against Marquette in a game they really had to win to sniff any chance of a tourney bid. And they got rolled.
 
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I'm not thrilled about playing this game without Liam and I'm convinced that the refs will allow PC to play rugby in this game.

Worst case scenario, PC pulls out a victory, fans of their school rejoice, claiming that the two programs really are peers (while the remainder of the basketball world recognizes reality) and English gets an extra year or two.

Best case scenario, we continue building for March and extend our winning streak.

I'm expecting quite a bit of ugly in this game.
 
I'm not thrilled about playing this game without Liam and I'm convinced that the refs will allow PC to play rugby in this game.

Worst case scenario, PC pulls out a victory, fans of their school rejoice, claiming that the two programs really are peers (while the remainder of the basketball world recognizes reality) and English gets an extra year or two.

Best case scenario, we continue building for March and extend our winning streak.

I'm expecting quite a bit of ugly in this game.
Agreed about Liam. He’s arguably our best player. And despite having good depth we can’t really afford long absences from starters. The only good thing is it will require others to step up on the offensive end. Maybe Stewart, Mahaney, who knows.
 
Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.
I can't see it. Pride or not, it's in Gampel and they don't have anyone on their roster even close to being able to match up to Reed, Samson, Alex or McNeeley (if he plays). They're going to have nightmares about what we do on the interior to them.

And even if you look outside the paint, we're much bigger, more athletic and much deeper than they are everywhere. This is a disaster matchup for them.
 
I'm not thrilled about playing this game without Liam and I'm convinced that the refs will allow PC to play rugby in this game.

Worst case scenario, PC pulls out a victory, fans of their school rejoice, claiming that the two programs really are peers (while the remainder of the basketball world recognizes reality) and English gets an extra year or two.

Best case scenario, we continue building for March and extend our winning streak.

I'm expecting quite a bit of ugly in this game.
Or our backups show up for their chance and we kick their @ss down our best player and can rub it in!
 
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Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.
Anything can happen, obviously, but this PC team doesn't seem like it has the personnel to pull off a game like that. Devin Carter isn't walking through that door
 
Watch Floyd go off on us for 18 because we are the only team he seems to score against. UConn wins but he will make it interesting.
He also matches up well against us. We can't stop anyone that drives to the basket and he has some strength to draw fouls.

But Providence has definitely been pretty bad. Time for some of other guys to step up and shine.
 
Without Hopkins, they are going to play 4 guards and a C. Every screen will be switched, so our offense won’t work unless we have guys that will attack. Diarra will do his thing, but without Liam, Karaban needs to be aggressive offensively. He won’t ever have someone taller than 6’6 guarding him. He will have a mismatch every possession and needs to be ready to abuse it
 
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Just looking at our season stats and Reed has 114 rbs and Johnson only 34 rbs in 13 games. Hard to believe the cumulative difference in instincts for the ball. They both have 22 blocks. Stunning using cumulative numbers.

A number of things can be true at once for that disparity in numbers:

1-Does Tarris have a better body/hands for and general instincts for getting more rebounds than Samson?

Yes. Very obvious from the eye test.

2-Does Samson get put into inherently worse positions for getting rebounds than Tarris due to the different roles/positions they are in when on offense and defense?

Yes. In fact, its much more notable on Offense, where he is out on the perimeter setting screens and getting set-ups for P-n-R lobs. Many times, he is already effectively boxed out when a shot goes up. The ratio of rebounds for Tarris:Samson is exaggerated for Offensive (4.9:1) compared to Defensive (2.9:1).
 
Just looking at our season stats and Reed has 114 rbs and Johnson only 34 rbs in 13 games. Hard to believe the cumulative difference in instincts for the ball. They both have 22 blocks. Stunning using cumulative numbers.
Reed is a rebounding machine - sure hands on rebounds and a bigger body to help box out. Johnson is ostensibly a 6'10" wing who's strength is on offense rim rocking, defensive switching, and often out of position for rebounding contested layup misses or soft rim misses. Reed is in the 5 spot naturally.
 
A number of things can be true at once for that disparity in numbers:

1-Does Tarris have a better body/hands for and general instincts for getting more rebounds than Samson?

Yes. Very obvious from the eye test.

2-Does Samson get put into inherently worse positions for getting rebounds than Tarris due to the different roles/positions they are in when on offense and defense?

Yes. In fact, its much more notable on Offense, where he is out on the perimeter setting screens and getting set-ups for P-n-R lobs. Many times, he is already effectively boxed out when a shot goes up. The ratio of rebounds for Tarris:Samson is exaggerated for Offensive (4.9:1) compared to Defensive (2.9:1).
Samson had 3, 3, 2 and 4 total rebounds in the last 4 games. That's on him. But that's ok, he also has stayed away from foul trouble in the last few games. I would normally take that trade of, but now without Liam we are going to need our center to collect more rebounds than our point guard. I think that is a fair expectation to have.
 
I personally would like to see an absolute drubbing. Diarra should be able to feast on Pierre defensively. Super turnover prone. And they have literally no one who can do anything about Tarris. Sunday would be a great time to unleash the “Kodiak.”

Obviously I want Liam available for every game, but if he is out then the team will have had time to prepare for that and practice without him. We should be better than them from every single position of the floor with or without him.

They will absolutely try to muck it up and we’ll see the exact same grabbing/pushing/off ball disruption we saw against DePaul since it’s their only chance to even try and stay in this.

We beat Baylor without AK and Zags/xavier mostly without Johnson. Another chance to prove we can play through adversity and succeed.
 
Not to mention Providence doesn't exactly shoot well from the charity stripe (~70%) so even if the refs go characteristically brutal on us, I'd go Rundgren on that: "It wouldn't have made any difference"
 
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Still feel like this game could be tricky (glad it’s at home in case we’re flat). After getting sandblasted by Marquette, this could be a “pride” game for PC where they come out and play with March intensity with nothing to lose. If they get a whiff of success and start feeling positive about themselves, they could suddenly be a problem. If we take the life out of them, though, they might just roll over. It‘s like a “don’t let them off the mat” type of game where they are already on the mat before the ball is even tipped.

Somewhere in the game, the crowd will get into it and hopefully spur on a 15-2 type of run that more or less puts it away. The earlier the better.

I have felt that way all week. Even moreso because I have a feeling we see Hopkins Sunday which will be an extra spark for them. It will be exactly like you said. We have been starting games well lately, if we can snuff this one early we are in for a relaxing Sunday, they will roll over. If not it will be a stressful day as they chuck a ton of threes that shouldnt go in, but will. Plus Corey Floyd only really shows out these days against UConn. I watch a lot of their games and his career is puzzling thus far. Kid is strong, a good rebounder, decent driver, decent passer, plays hard but cant seem to put it all together, except looks like a 2nd team all league player against UConn.

Hurley know this better than anyone and has been bemoaning the lack of killer instinct after both the Butler and DePaul games. Flirt with that stuff too much and at some point it will bite you. It can't be Sunday.
 
I have felt that way all week. Even moreso because I have a feeling we see Hopkins Sunday which will be an extra spark for them. It will be exactly like you said. We have been starting games well lately, if we can snuff this one early we are in for a relaxing Sunday, they will roll over. If not it will be a stressful day as they chuck a ton of threes that shouldnt go in, but will. Plus Corey Floyd only really shows out these days against UConn. I watch a lot of their games and his career is puzzling thus far. Kid is strong, a good rebounder, decent driver, decent passer, plays hard but cant seem to put it all together, except looks like a 2nd team all league player against UConn.

Hurley know this better than anyone and has been bemoaning the lack of killer instinct after both the Butler and DePaul games. Flirt with that stuff too much and at some point it will bite you. It can't be Sunday.
I agree that Floyd looks like he should be a better player. He looked like a warrior in high school. My fear about him was that he dominated because he was physically mature but didn't show a great outside shot. But in games I've seen him play at Providence he seems to have an okay shot, but he seems disinterested against teams not UConn. He's really the only guy in that transfer class that I rooted against since he came to UConn knowing he was going to sit and then went to a conference foe and I continue to root against his success. I thought Akok Akok was wrong for going to G'Town but he at least needed to move on.

If Hopkins doesn't play against UConn, and can count this year as a redshirt, I wouldn't be surprised if he shuts it down for the year. It's selfish, but playing could only hurt him. The team is bad, he isn't looking like a big NBA prospect this year, and he could save a year of NIL from another program (and he probably already got a bunch from Providence this year).

People talk about how NIL and transfers no longer needing to sit out a year has made it much easier for a new coach to turn around a program. They don't talk as much about how those same developments can derail a program (and its coach) just as quickly. Kim English could be headed for trouble.
 
I agree that Floyd looks like he should be a better player. He looked like a warrior in high school. My fear about him was that he dominated because he was physically mature but didn't show a great outside shot. But in games I've seen him play at Providence he seems to have an okay shot, but he seems disinterested against teams not UConn. He's really the only guy in that transfer class that I rooted against since he came to UConn knowing he was going to sit and then went to a conference foe and I continue to root against his success. I thought Akok Akok was wrong for going to G'Town but he at least needed to move on.

If Hopkins doesn't play against UConn, and can count this year as a redshirt, I wouldn't be surprised if he shuts it down for the year. It's selfish, but playing could only hurt him. The team is bad, he isn't looking like a big NBA prospect this year, and he could save a year of NIL from another program (and he probably already got a bunch from Providence this year).

People talk about how NIL and transfers no longer needing to sit out a year has made it much easier for a new coach to turn around a program. They don't talk as much about how those same developments can derail a program (and its coach) just as quickly. Kim English could be headed for trouble.

Yeah you have a pretty good take on that. Im not sure Hopkins is able to redshirt, hard to sort out what any rules actually are these days. But if he can, I don't think you see him at PC next year no matter what. You're not wrong about English, he preached getting "13 dudes" after having obvious depth issues last year past Carter and Oduro, and from all accounts was given a pretty fat checkbook to get some players out of the portal. It seems that they are all misses to varying degrees.

Essandoko is a disaster and is pretty much benched and was supposed to be their starting center. Abdur-Rahim not getting much run now, was supposed to be a lights out three guy but hes not making them at a good clip and is so soft in other aspects of the game he is virtually unplayable. Wes Cardet was talked up as a big scorer that they were looking to maybe be a lead scorer, but his overall floor game is wildly inconsistent. He has some good flashes but overall has been disappointing to this point. However his style of play is one that fits the Memphis/Colorado mode of attack against us, so he possibly could cause some issues Sunday. Hard to keep from the rim one on one. Bensley Joseph is the 4th portal guy and to my eye the only one who has delivered anything to PC from the portal, been decent, but its not like hes setting the world on fire either, just more or less a serviceable guard along with Pierre.

That's a lot of swings and misses, and while that can happen and does happen (not every portal player turns out like Cam Spencer as we well know) , that is when floor coaching gets put in the spotlight, and thus far English, while taking accountability for the poor play, has looked like a deer in the headlights at times, and doesn't seem to be adjusting the team away from what they are failing at and making adjustments. THAT is where a coach butters his bread. I won't entirely write off their season yet, it is almost a annual Providence tradition that they are pretty bad OOC and in early season and then amass some wins in the middle of conference season. This year feels different and its hard to see them turning around something this bad (losing 7 of 9) but things happen. Nova seems to be turning it around a bit this season. English is a young guy with a good energy and seems to be a good recruiter, so he can afford a bad year, but he will definitely be under a microscope next season if this season plays out how it's feeling.
 
Samson had 3, 3, 2 and 4 total rebounds in the last 4 games. That's on him. But that's ok, he also has stayed away from foul trouble in the last few games. I would normally take that trade of, but now without Liam we are going to need our center to collect more rebounds than our point guard. I think that is a fair expectation to have.
Sure, but he wasn't in the lineup to get rebounds.
 
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