Providence Post Game Thread

[Kemba15]

The team as it looks today looks more vulnerable to getting knocked out by an 8 seed than it does making an NC run.

And when we beat the round 2 opponent, you’ll pivot to how scary the next matchup will be. Just like how you raved about the Illinois, Florida, and BYU rosters being such a disaster for us. Just chill and enjoy the ride—we’re not perfect but we’re pretty damn good

 

[superjohn]

And when we beat the round 2 opponent, you’ll pivot to how scary the next matchup will be. Just like how you raved about the Illinois, Florida, and BYU rosters being such a disaster for us. Just chill and enjoy the ride—we’re not perfect but we’re pretty damn good

And now those wins against Illinois, Florida, and BYU mean nothing to him because they were earlier in the season and in NYC and Boston.

 

[HW611]

You are so out of touch it’s just bizarre. The player you never saw play but continue to argue about was a bouncy defender and a rebounder. Think super poor man’s Rodman. He played a very meaningful role on a team that didn’t need him to score

You’re right man. Calhoun should’ve did better by… Marcus White.

Could’ve been the next Rodman if he played him sooner and didn’t wait.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Now I can’t get that neck ball against Texas out of my head. I really thought they were gonna pull off that comeback.

 

[Gurleyman]

You’re so caught up in this you’re saying White produced when he averaged 4 points a game and scored 4 points in that game against Texas?

Yeah man this why I gotta see this stuff for myself because you all will literally say anything lol

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Every poster also told me Mahaney was going to be good and Furphy was going to contribute. This has made me not care what most of you all think.

Yep, nailed that one.

 

[RuffRuff]

And now those wins against Illinois, Florida, and BYU mean nothing to him because they were earlier in the season and in NYC and Boston.

Great resume builders, non indicative of how the result would look today on a neutral floor. Some teams have picked up play. For instance, Illinois would be favored right now. These games were two months ago at the very beginning of the year.

Yep, nailed that one. View attachment 116515

Needed to put Ball at the point to get him ready for the NBA.

 

[HCCForever]

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

I recall Toraino being huge in the Big East Tournament that year.

Off topic but I would love to see Silo go off for ten three pointers as Allie Z just did for the Women’s team.

 

[Mr. French]

Zero chance he knows who "Blaney" is.

Leonard Blaney our 3rd string center, duh

 

[Mr. French]

You’re right man. Calhoun should’ve did better by… Marcus White.

Could’ve been the next Rodman if he played him sooner and didn’t wait.

Should’ve did better by?

@Hans Sprungfeld help a brother out

 

[HW611]

When we beat Syracuse - the eventual national champions with Carmelo Anthony - in the Big East semis, White had 14 rebounds and helped us dominate the glass against a front line of Anthony, Hakim Warrick, and 7-0 Craig Forth.

In 1990 Toraino Walker was a huge part of our first ever Big East Championship. Google his stats and he averaged 2.7 points that year. But trust me, he was a huge part.

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

 

[HW611]

Zero chance he knows who "Blaney" is.

Without googling it, you’ll never guess where his son coaches now.

 

[Mr. French]

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

Talk about not getting nuances.

Every accusation is a confession.

 

[Gurleyman]

Well this conversation has evolved from White was on a tight leash and Calhoun wouldn’t play him to, he played him so much he was a huge part of us beating Syracuse in the BET.

Maybe paragraph text is too hard. Let me try doing this via bullet points.

• Calhoun did not play White meaningful minutes all year.
• Calhoun had health problems and took a leave of absence
• George Blaney filled in for Calhoun
• George Blaney played Marcus White
• Marcus White played very well
• Calhoun came back and White was playing too well to keep on the bench
• White stayed in the rotation and helped us win postseason games.

I hope that helps.

 

[Gurleyman]

I recall Toraino being huge in the Big East Tournament that year.

Off topic but I would love to see Silo go off for ten three pointers as Allie Z just did for the Women’s team.

Sellers went down with a knee injury and we had to throw Toraino out there against Mourning and Mutumbo. And then Derrick Coleman. He didn’t even put up huge numbers - but he battled them big time.

 

[El Obrero]

Yo, anyone get a ransom note yet? Cuz somebody done hijacked this thread!

 

[gsmooth]

The longer we go between seeing A games, I am starting to wonder if we’re seeing it, but it’s just not very good.

We’ve now played 85 minutes against Providence and the takeaway is that we seem to be a little bit better than they are. We have not moved forward yet in the way that other potential one seeds have. We’re needing overtime and late game rallies to squeak out these Quad 2 wins - need to get better over the next six weeks.

Exactly. There is still time for them to get better, like the 2023 team, but I am wondering if this is who they are.

I am just not sure this team is all that good of a perimeter shooting team. Everyone kept saying in November Solo will get his shooting back, but I am not so sure. I know his wrist injury is most likely hurting his shooting, but this bad stretch, with the exception of a few good games behind the arc, continued from last year's NCAAT.

 

[gsmooth]

The team as it looks today looks more vulnerable to getting knocked out by an 8 seed than it does making an NC run.

Let's hope this doesn't happen, but right now they are not playing all that great. I can understand getting the ugly road win in the Big East, but games at home should have bigger MOVs. There is still time, though, and they can improve and get right for March, but it has to start now. A great way to start that would be with a win in Omaha.

 

[KingAG]

Exactly. There is still time for them to get better, like the 2023 team, but I am wondering if this is who they are.

I am just not sure this team is all that good of a perimeter shooting team. Everyone kept saying in November Solo will get his shooting back, but I am not so sure. I know his wrist injury is most likely hurting his shooting, but this bad stretch, with the exception of a few good games behind the arc, continued from last year's NCAAT.

They’re a streaky shooting team. All of them. When it’s good it’s good. But when they go cold, they go really cold. Until the under 4 when they become the best team in the nation again.

 

[HW611]

Maybe paragraph text is too hard. Let me try doing this via bullet points.

• Calhoun did not play White meaningful minutes all year.
• Calhoun had health problems and took a leave of absence
• George Blaney filled in for Calhoun
• George Blaney played Marcus White
• Marcus White played very well
• Calhoun came back and White was playing too well to keep on the bench
• White stayed in the rotation and helped us win postseason games.

I hope that helps. Assuming you’re real. You might be some form of AI slop.

The point is he did end up playing him, a lot. Even if Blaney started it. He continued and rode with him. As a freshman at that who was originally committed to DePaul.

This wasn’t some crazy high ceiling player he was holding back. He got passed up by 2 freshman the next year.

This is the example you all want me to believe is the same as having two juniors Hurley has been hyping up for years.

 

[Mike Honcho]

Yep, Calhoun didn't tolerate bad habits/bad play from his stars. He didn't give them any of that long leash Hurley gives Karaban and he coached the bad stuff right out of them like he did with Jerome Dyson (our best player according to Huskywarrior in 2009-2010.) That's why Dyson averaged 4 turnovers per game that season, shot under 40% from the field, under 30% from three and had a combined 8 points, 4 assists, and 11 turnovers in his last two Big East games as a Husky.


Remember Darnell Beverly? Remember when Marcus White couldn't beat out Rashad Anderson and Denham Brown?

I've never seen someone out themselves like this. Dude never even watched the Calhoun teams play.

Donnell* Beverly.

I went to Vegas ages ago. I was killing time waiting to board the plane, and end up scrolling past an Instagram post from Donnell (I was probably 1 of his 1,000 followers).

He's pictured on a private jet heading to Vegas with a big crew to celebrate his best friend Russ Westbrook's engagement. I chuckle at the coincidence and remark to my friend... What if...

A couple hours later we touch down in Vegas, check in at the Wynn, and head to our rooms. We're navigating the casino with our bags to find the elevator bank. All of a sudden I look up and the entire bachelor party is walking towards us. I hesitate and let the moment slip by.

I regret it to this day... Giving props to Donnell while ignoring Russ (this was two years prior to his MVP season) would have brought the house down.

 

[HW611]

Yep, Calhoun didn't tolerate bad habits/bad play from his stars. He didn't give them any of that long leash Hurley gives Karaban and he coached the bad stuff right out of them like he did with Jerome Dyson (our best player according to Huskywarrior in 2009-2010.) That's why Dyson averaged 4 turnovers per game that season, shot under 40% from the field, under 30% from three and had a combined 8 points, 4 assists, and 11 turnovers in his last two Big East games as a Husky.


Remember Darnell Beverly? Remember when Marcus White couldn't beat out Rashad Anderson and Denham Brown?

I've never seen someone out themselves like this. Dude never even watched the Calhoun teams play.

Dyson is one of the only examples you can give of his top players with those kind of habits. And I literally just posted a video of Calhoun subbing him out :30 seconds into a game. So I don’t know why you’re comparing his leash to Karaban. This kind of stupid stuff is why I don’t respond to you.

As far as his development. Let’s just say he’s the Iverson of UConn basketball when it came to practice but being able to leave it all out on the court at the same time.

That was a Dyson problem. Not Calhoun problem. If you worked hard and were coachable, you usually turned out to be one of the best players in the country. Calhoun has a very long list of those guys.

 

[dennismenace]

I think people think that anyone not named Ricky Moore isn’t a great perimeter defender, when the reality is that under current rules and officiating, Moore would be committing 20 fouls every game.

If he was playing for Uconn yes. No more offensive charging fouls against our opponents. He would have to have practice in the parking lot with a pickup truck "backing him down." Or watch video tapes of the man with his own rulebook Colin Gillespie bowling over everyone unless they were Sanogo. Then he'd find out that other teams are permitted to continuously commit intentional fouls of grabbing jerseys, shorts, arms or legs but not him. These are the rules of the Big East officials. We had a token jersey grab intentional foul for the first time I can remember last game. And Brian O'Connell was on the floor! I guess Danny finally shamed a ref. Our offense is undefendable in conference play because our opponents don't have the intellect or training to handle it. So they "muck it up" to quote Ed Cooley. That is why we looked unbeatable in the NCAA's where rules are still rules.

Many have commented that the games we are watching are not basketball and that is why they are so hard to watch. It's a travesty and either the league will have to change or we should find a new league. To stay in this league involves roster construction of football types, not long wiry guys. It's like the Big East is in its own world and brand of bully boy street ball. Not saying it has to be like west coast style but just enforce the rules as written. At one point a number of decades ago the Big East was much more dominant (like say Georgetown) because this style was allowed in the NCAA's and then (remember!) they later disallowed hand checking! "Do not touch!" From one extreme to another.

Shout out to Dan Hurley. He builds great defensive teams and then starts integrating state of the art Euro style and no one wants to have to absorb that so the refs pretend that each team can have its own rules in order to have things "balanced."

Hey refs (League office): Are we in the 80's NBA or the modern era?