Providence Post Game Thread.

[Chin Diesel]

One other thought on the game --

The Carter kid was great in Apocalypto

He looks too much like Paul Stanley for me.

 

[UConnSwag11]

All of Clingan's fouls were legit. And Donny appropriately pointed out he goes for fakes too often for a player his size 2ho is materially bigger than the guy he is guarding.

Best thing about Clingan is he played the last 7+ minutes without picking up foul #5. Yes, Oduro, made some shots but he had to shoot them over Clingan who still made them tough shots.

2 fouls were BS, 2 and 4. He does leave his feet every time and swipe like he’s a kid learning how to use his side.

Clignan didn’t pick up his foul bc he had to play soft so in return Oduro feasted. Looked like an AA.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

That is true. I still dislike that the Bug East seems ok with a team on the short end of a talent disparity simply fouling endlessly. We saw two quick on DC and SJ but the first half was called way too loosely. The clutching, grabbing, bumps and hand checks they let it all go. So it got worse and they had to call it.

I started watching the second half of Boise State - New Mexico after our game yesterday and it was just night and day. Way more freedom of movement and when guys got caught clutching and grabbing, it was a foul. The teams both adapted and it was a MUCH better brand of basketball to watch. Clearly the Big East wants or is okay with this brand of basketball because that is how it’s pretty much always called, but it’s a really bad product way too often.

 

[HuskyinWRNY]

That was a rock fight, with real rocks.

 

[willie99]

If Providence hits free throws, they win this game

If we nake wide open uncontested threes, we cover

 

[Chin Diesel]

Anyone else a little worried about Karaban? Hurley said he was at “70%” and will get X-rays tomorrow. I’m no doctor.

No. But get ready for 100 posts by boneyarders doing the following:

Arguing ad nauseum whether it was a twist, strain or sprain.
Arguing whether it's a foot injury, lower leg injury, or a foot injury.
Sharing tales of the one time they rolled an ankle and what AK's recovery will be based on their personal experience.

 

[chickenhead]

Ed Cooley might be gone but this feels like the same team defensively. Grabbing, tons of contact, mucking everything up, and just daring the refs to call all the fouls. CFJ in particular had a handful of jersey through literally every screen. I don't know how PC fans can watch a full season of this.

This was actually nothing like any game we've seen this year.

 

[uconn13]

He looks too much like Paul Stanley for me.

Side angle camera shots he resembles Brad Marchand of the Bruins. Guess it's the nose.

 

[CL82]

The "actor" who played Luca was a fill-in at a moment's notice for a Hollywood actor who flaked out. He was on the set watching when they pulled him into the movie. Who was he? He was a hitman for the Colombo crime family. Coppola was a genius because he insisted Luca's lines stay in the movie, while everyone around him was telling him the Mafia guy was maybe the worst actor in human history. It's also said that in the scene of Luca practicing lines outside the meeting with the Godfather, that was the actor ACTUALLY practicing his lines.

Cool. I'd never heard this.

Wikipedia version:

The filming of The Godfather faced strong opposition from the Italian-American Civil Rights League, with disputes headed by Joe Colombo and Frank Sinatra threatening its whole production. Producer Al Ruddy eventually made a deal with the league and Joe Colombo to cut the word Mafia (which was only used once in the script) and the League would back the production of the film. This meant mobsters would be present on the set of The Godfather. In 1971, when Montana was acting as a bodyguard for a senior Colombo family member, he met Francis Ford Coppola and Al Ruddy. After being introduced to the 6'6" 320-pound Montana, they quickly cast him for the role of Luca Brasi. When Bettye McCartt, Al Ruddy's assistant, broke her watch, Montana offered to get her a new one. A week later, Montana returned with a "gift from the boys" – an antique diamond watch. He was picked for the part after the original actor playing the character died of a stroke. This was his first credited film appearance. Montana was very nervous about appearing opposite Brando. Director Coppola incorporated this real-life tension into several scenes, showing Brasi repeatedly practicing (and later fumbling) his congratulations to Corleone. Montana had little screen time in the film (although his final scene is one of the most suspenseful in the film), but his notable height and physique caught the eye of producers, and he appeared in several movies and television programs after appearing in The Godfather.

 

[alphasigko]

Carter is a good player but he dives more than a European soccer player. He drives, causes contact(or sometimes there is no contact at all), and then throws his body sideways like he was hip checked. Refs bite on it often.

I can't stand him. He has an arrogant way about him, hence not very likeable.

 

[Umami Zen]

Was almost the Perfect Storm for a PC upset. Clingan-Johnson foul trouble/AK rolling his ankle/threes not dropping for us/Oduro controlling the paint/WWE Smackdown kind of game.

Steph growing up in front of us and FTs in second half helped tremendously.

Let's get Karaban ready for Saturday/learn from film sessions in next few days. Winning is a lot better than losing.Grab a Quad 1 road win on Saturday.

 

[REB1094]

Also shoutout Stephon Castle. 20 points, 2 threes, single handedly kept us afloat in the second half. Best game of his young career

3-5 on threes in his last two games!

 

[alphasigko]

This was actually nothing like any game we've seen this year.

Or in many years....

 

[husky429]

Carter is a good player but he dives more than a European soccer player. He drives, causes contact(or sometimes there is no contact at all), and then throws his body sideways like he was hip checked. Refs bite on it often.

To be fair, Newton is a top-3 flopper in yhe conference.

 

[Chin Diesel]

2 fouls were BS, 2 and 4. He does leave his feet every time and swipe like he’s a kid learning how to use his side.

Clignan didn’t pick up his foul bc he had to play soft so in return Oduro feasted. Looked like an AA.

You can nitpick #2. Seems like every game bigs are called for moving screens or illegal screens. Some calls are better than others but I almost expect one foul a game from Clingan and Johnson on those.

The other fouls were all because Oduro got Clingan off his feet and Clingan bringing his arms down. Three of those shots Oduro hit when he came back in against Clingan, I'll let Oduro take all game long. Kudos to him for making all of them, but I like my chances if he has to shoot like that over Clingan all game long.

Yes, Clingan played soft. Weird as it sounds, that is a skill every player needs to learn how to do when they are in foul trouble and it's more advantageous for their soft version to be on the court rather than on the bench. Knowing how to dial it back and stay on the court while in foul trouble is a learned skill.

 

[Mr. French]

Yeah, not sure why he said that. Was he supposed to stop and let PC foul him instead? Because that's what would have happened.

If my other half of parlay didn’t miss, that dunk to push from 7-9 would have REALLY helped my -7.5 line…but alas it didn’t matter. I only get good beats when it doesn’t help

 

[Jaydumo20]

To be fair, Newton is a top-3 flopper in yhe conference.

It's true. And think how many opposing fan bases hate Cam. He's not a flopper but if he wore orange or blue and white he'd be the ideal UConn villain.

 

[husky429]

He would absolutely destroy me on the court, it's just funny how out of place a good basketball player looks on the court in high level D1. Some people even think by looks alone Cam looks out of place when in actuality he's an incredible athlete.

Give me 40 minutes to warm-up and shot of toradol in my back, and I'm putting that nerd on skates.

 

[Stinger92860]

Cool. I'd never heard this.

Wikipedia version:

The filming of The Godfather faced strong opposition from the Italian-American Civil Rights League, with disputes headed by Joe Colombo and Frank Sinatra threatening its whole production. Producer Al Ruddy eventually made a deal with the league and Joe Colombo to cut the word Mafia (which was only used once in the script) and the League would back the production of the film. This meant mobsters would be present on the set of The Godfather. In 1971, when Montana was acting as a bodyguard for a senior Colombo family member, he met Francis Ford Coppola and Al Ruddy. After being introduced to the 6'6" 320-pound Montana, they quickly cast him for the role of Luca Brasi. When Bettye McCartt, Al Ruddy's assistant, broke her watch, Montana offered to get her a new one. A week later, Montana returned with a "gift from the boys" – an antique diamond watch. He was picked for the part after the original actor playing the character died of a stroke. This was his first credited film appearance. Montana was very nervous about appearing opposite Brando. Director Coppola incorporated this real-life tension into several scenes, showing Brasi repeatedly practicing (and later fumbling) his congratulations to Corleone. Montana had little screen time in the film (although his final scene is one of the most suspenseful in the film), but his notable height and physique caught the eye of producers, and he appeared in several movies and television programs after appearing in The Godfather.

When that movie came out I remember the long lines going down the block for the Merritt Theater. It was all Sicilians or Italians, they were pumped. My uncle was a Bridgeport cop at the time, he worked overtime at the theater and he thinks he saw the movies 150+ times. He had it memorized.

 

[CTBasketball]

Yup. I see it

*Tennessee, this offseason or the next dependent on when Rick Barnes retires.

 

[navery12]

One thing I noticed last night with Samson. It's not that he's a bad rebounder, it seems like most of the time when a shot goes up he's just completely uninterested in getting a rebound at all

 

[Chin Diesel]

One thing I noticed last night with Samson. It's not that he's a bad rebounder, it seems like most of the time when a shot goes up he's just completely uninterested in getting a rebound at all

Hands of Stone in boxing? Good.
Hands of Stone in basketball? Not good.

He has so many rebounds he gets his hands on and either fumbles them or gets it stripped or batted away. And then he falls to the ground.

 

[Greedo]

I wish UConn would offer some kind of fan experience contest. PC really knows how to keep their fans engaged in the program. They even let their winner go in the game against the #1 team in the country.

 

[aceboon]

I will say my favorite moment of the night was the Providence bench getting a T after quite literally the easiest charge call I’ve ever seen.

it's a block in college because college refs are incompetent. At the pro and international levels that's a block all day.

 

[HuskyHawk]

You can nitpick #2. Seems like every game bigs are called for moving screens or illegal screens. Some calls are better than others but I almost expect one foul a game from Clingan and Johnson on those.

The other fouls were all because Oduro got Clingan off his feet and Clingan bringing his arms down. Three of those shots Oduro hit when he came back in against Clingan, I'll let Oduro take all game long. Kudos to him for making all of them, but I like my chances if he has to shoot like that over Clingan all game long.

Yes, Clingan played soft. Weird as it sounds, that is a skill every player needs to learn how to do when they are in foul trouble and it's more advantageous for their soft version to be on the court rather than on the bench. Knowing how to dial it back and stay on the court while in foul trouble is a learned skill.

#2 wasn't a foul. Somebody in chat said "he wasn't set". You don't have to be set. You're allowed to walk around the court on and if some guy comes running as fast as he can and just runs into you, that's not a foul. We see bigs with the non-illegal moving screens all the time when they just walk down the court and the guards still use that to their advantage.

 

[selles]

One thing I noticed last night with Samson. It's not that he's a bad rebounder, it seems like most of the time when a shot goes up he's just completely uninterested in getting a rebound at all

Which is weird, because it's not like he doesn't play hard. In fact, he plays too hard on some of his hedges. And it's not like he can't rebound - he had some monster rebounds in traffic against Texas. Maybe he's thinking too much. The staff needs to get this one figured out because we need him to be more of a rebounding/rim protecting presence when Clingan's on the bench.

 

[HuskyHawk]

it's a block in college because college refs are incompetent. At the pro and international levels that's a block all day.

You meant charge. I think you're wrong here. Carter ran into Cam full speed, kept pushing him backward and ended with a little shove. Cam wasn't even in Carter's path to the rim, Carter avoided that path so he could run into Cam. That is not a block in the NBA unless it's LeBron.

 

[Gurleyman]

Clingan‘s first foul was because he effectively challenged the first shot and Spencer fell asleep and got outworked by Floyd for the rebound. Clingan was out of position and instinctively went after the second shot - I didn’t think there was much of a foul there, truthfully, but that should be in the film room - “you don’t do your job, and it has a domino effect where the big guy gets in foul trouble.” Although Cam knew - he was mad at himself.

 

[Palatine]

Hurley smiled and mouthed words to English, "%$#@ing Big East." Says it all.

 

[CL82]

When that movie came out I remember the long lines going down the block for the Merritt Theater. It was all Sicilians or Italians, they were pumped. My uncle was a Bridgeport cop at the time, he worked overtime at the theater and he thinks he saw the movies 150+ times. He had it memorized.

There's a lot of things to like about that movie including the plot, acting, cinematography, and score, but another part is that the Italian characters are not caricatures. There are definitely moments that "ring true" such as Clemenza teasing Michael about not saying I love you to Kay on the phone. I suspect that's why it may have resonated in the Italian and Sicilian communities.