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I actually disagree with this. I think the team plays much better with the ball out of his hands and less emphasis on him on the offensive end. I think it helps him too to take the pressure off him by handing the keys to Newton and Hawk instead. Jackson is a great defender, and excellent glue guy and he plays hard 100% of the time.

I think the team plays better when he's not the focus on either end, as it gives Newton the confidence to run the offense his way, frees up the lane on offense by putting him on the baseline, and it simplifies the game for Jackson (doesn't have to worry about shooting or breaking down his man off the dribble). I think the team goes as he goes energy wise, but the team overall is much better when he plays as the ultimate "role player" rather than trying to constantly make him into something he isn't.
100%. Andre for shutdown defense, defensive rebounding and pushing the break but he should be in that dunker spot, setting screens and rolling to the hoop. He should not be dictating the offense and shooting threes. We were so great last night because everyone played to their strengths, when we play to our strengths we're the best team around.
 
I'm sure there are more but I can think of two who have been masquerading as UConn fans recently that haven't posted since yesterday afternoon. I imagine that they'll out themselves soon enough.

Not really sure why someone would troll another fan base, especially under the guise of being one of them, but, to each his own I guess, even if it means behaving like a loser.

Exaggerate much?

There wasn’t a 30 FT advantage last time either. It just felt that way because we missed so many FTs last time. The advantage last time was 16 more FTs for PC on 7 more fouls called against us.

The big difference this time was that we made our FTs and 3’s rather than missing them at a high rate as we did last time.

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Agreed. But since I’ve been plenty critical of Sanogo in past games, I’ve got to dish some criticism on Clingan.
How silly of me. With that set-up, I thought you were going compliment Sanogo!
 
Exaggerate much?

There wasn’t a 30 FT advantage last time either. It just felt that way because we missed so many FTs last time. The advantage last time was 16 more FTs for PC on 7 more fouls called against us.

The big difference this time was that we made our FTs and 3’s rather than missing them at a high rate as we did last time.

What an odd shtick.
 
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Exaggerate much?

There wasn’t a 30 FT advantage last time either. It just felt that way because we missed so many FTs last time. The advantage last time was 16 more FTs for PC on 7 more fouls called against us.

The big difference this time was that we made our FTs and 3’s rather than missing them at a high rate as we did last time.
Sure. 7 more fouls on UConn, when PC probably committed 10 more fouls in the game. That was the problem. Grabbing, clutching, holding, bumping ball handlers, loads of uncalled moving screens.

Hint for Ed and PC fans, if you hip check a ball handler, and he loses the ball and you steal it without contacting his arm, that's still a foul, even if the Big East doesn't want to call it. Carter had one of those last night on Newton. There were several the prior game.
 
It's tough on the players, too, when they have to play completely differently in the 2nd half. But yesterday's officiating, IMO, was okay, not great, but not bad, but yes it can't be that night in day from the first half to the second half. If you really want to see bad officiating go back to the first game at PC that UConn played in.
Last night they generally called fouls as they should. I do not understand why people are upset about last night. Yes we got to 8 quickly, but they generally were obvious fouls. As an example, no idea what Diarra was thinking on his. They were all obvious. Other teams bump more (which does lead to some frustration because they generally are uneven there), but we commit so many reach in fouls that are incredibly obvious that where all of the other fouls even out, those foolish reach ins tip the scale against us. I also feel a little dirty debating foul calls after a blowout. Seems small time.
 
I have a lot of respect for Ed Cooley, but I don't agree with his assessment in the post game presser that no adjustments were made by UConn for guarding Hopkins. According to him, Hopkins just didn't make shots. Maybe he's just in denial because clearly Karaban played tougher defense on him this time around. He contested his shots, got help when needed, and they made it harder for him to get to the rim, and thusly he didn't get to the free throw line all that much. Oh, and Hopkins didn't get a single rebound but I guess that had nothing to do with the Huskies boxing out more and being more aggressive on the glass.

And I don't think he's in a position to talk about arrogant fans, nor do his supposed observations reflect the majority of Huskies fans. Maybe the more vocal ones? I don't know where he's getting that from.
 
What a strange night. If you go through what UConn NEEDS from all 9 guys that play, they really got what they need from all 9 guys last night, nothing more, nothing less! None of them had a great game, but all contributed what we need from them. It's very rare that this happens with any team ever.

Newton - I start with him because he is the key. We don't need him to score a ton, just play aggressively and penetrate
Hawkins - Worked his butt off. Not his best shooting night, but found other ways to score, got to the rim and got his 20 points
Sanogo - Active offensively and defensively, and efficient
Jackson - Just what we need from him. Limited shooting, great energy and defense
Karaban - You can just pencil him in every game for smart play, energy, and 16 points
Alleyne - Just need him for solid backup minutes, and he provided it. 3 pt shooting was a bonus
Diarra - Same thing from him, just need solid backup minutes. Fouls were maddening though
Clingan - Not his best game, but provided solid minutes with a big defensive presence.
Joey C - Not much needed from him last night, so he didn't play much, but was glad to see him make that three late. Hopefully that helps his confidence going forward.

In 90% of games at least one important player is going to have a bad game that requires somebody else to step up and provide more than expected. Last night was not one of those nights.
 
I have a lot of respect for Ed Cooley, but I don't agree with his assessment in the post game presser that no adjustments were made by UConn for guarding Hopkins. According to him, Hopkins just didn't make shots. Maybe he's just in denial because clearly Karaban played tougher defense on him this time around. He contested his shots, got help when needed, and they made it harder for him to get to the rim, and thusly he didn't get to the free throw line all that much. Oh, and Hopkins didn't get a single rebound but I guess that had nothing to do with the Huskies boxing out more and being more aggressive on the glass.

And I don't think he's in a position to talk about arrogant fans, nor do his supposed observations reflect the majority of Huskies fans. Maybe the more vocal ones? I don't know where he's getting that from.
I like Ed Cooley a lot as well, but his comments didn't sit well with me. A simple look at the box score, not any advanced analytics, and watching the first game at PC, it's easy to see why Hopkins scored so many points: Free throws 13-15. Did you he get fouled some sure, but I can tell you he and Croswell barrel into their defenders and created all the contact and the UConn players got called-it was ridiculous. I was at that game UConn got called for ticky tack stuff when the Friar players would collide with the UConn players and slip to the floor due to the condensation on the court caused by the unusually warm weather in Providence that day.

Hopkins is a great player that I respect, but come on Ed, you mean to tell everyone that your players just stopped giving him the ball for no reason and that UConn had nothing to do with it? And Hopkins had zero rebounds. Providence is a very good team that I respect, but the truth is they have not done much away from home court, even the people on Friar Talk forum begrudgingly admit this.

I wonder what PC's FTA/FGA ratio is home vs away. For every team it is better at home than away, however I wouldn't be surprised if PC's gap is greater.
 
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This particular night (last night).. Ed and his guys got spanked pretty good from the tip to the final buzzer.. A "pants around the ankles" moment. Dan Hurley was on top of his game with a crazy hometown crowd and his guys were prepared and performed.

Next step for us.. To perform this way in big games away from home in BET and in the Tournament.. We may see Providence again at the Garden.. Should be a fun ride.. Think we're ready..
 
1. Figuring out AJAX and what to do with him on the offensive end really is connected IMO to how well we do offensively on any given night. Lately; he and Hurley are starting to use him in a way that allows our offense to not be double teamed and bottled up. Keep him near the basket, flowing in and out for dunks/close layups and use him on fast breaks. Teams have to respect him in those areas. He runs the floor like a deer. Keep him away from 3pt line. Teams see him there and flow away from him thus double teaming everyone else.
To me, this is the most important adjustment on offense that hurley has made. Well said.
 
Sure. 7 more fouls on UConn, when PC probably committed 10 more fouls in the game. That was the problem. Grabbing, clutching, holding, bumping ball handlers, loads of uncalled moving screens.

Hint for Ed and PC fans, if you hip check a ball handler, and he loses the ball and you steal it without contacting his arm, that's still a foul, even if the Big East doesn't want to call it. Carter had one of those last night on Newton. There were several the prior game.

I’ll be honest, I thought the game was over when PC was in the bonus 5 minutes into the second half.
 
Sure. 7 more fouls on UConn, when PC probably committed 10 more fouls in the game. That was the problem. Grabbing, clutching, holding, bumping ball handlers, loads of uncalled moving screens.

Hint for Ed and PC fans, if you hip check a ball handler, and he loses the ball and you steal it without contacting his arm, that's still a foul, even if the Big East doesn't want to call it. Carter had one of those last night on Newton. There were several the prior game.
It’s a foul if your Alex and you hip check Bryce with your hands in the air
 
Is Samson Johnson hurt, or is something else going on? I read Hurley's comments about him the other day, and he didn't explicitly say that he was dealing with a nagging injury.
 
It’s a foul if your Alex and you hip check Bryce with your hands in the air
Is it a foul if Bryce slips and falls in the lane and nobody touches him? Apparently yes.

But, I’m talking ball handlers. Off ball body contact happens all the time, guys can battle for spots on the floor. Otherwise anybody running into a screen would be committing a foul.
 
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What a strange night. If you go through what UConn NEEDS from all 9 guys that play, they really got what they need from all 9 guys last night, nothing more, nothing less! None of them had a great game, but all contributed what we need from them. It's very rare that this happens with any team ever.

Newton - I start with him because he is the key. We don't need him to score a ton, just play aggressively and penetrate
Hawkins - Worked his butt off. Not his best shooting night, but found other ways to score, got to the rim and got his 20 points
Sanogo - Active offensively and defensively, and efficient
Jackson - Just what we need from him. Limited shooting, great energy and defense
Karaban - You can just pencil him in every game for smart play, energy, and 16 points
Alleyne - Just need him for solid backup minutes, and he provided it. 3 pt shooting was a bonus
Diarra - Same thing from him, just need solid backup minutes. Fouls were maddening though
Clingan - Not his best game, but provided solid minutes with a big defensive presence.
Joey C - Not much needed from him last night, so he didn't play much, but was glad to see him make that three late. Hopefully that helps his confidence going forward.

In 90% of games at least one important player is going to have a bad game that requires somebody else to step up and provide more than expected. Last night was not one of those nights.
Great post. You broke it down just for each player perfectly. Each of them played a crucial role last night regardless how large or small. This team is starting to put it all together. Assists were up, aggressive rebounding, excellent time management and very few bad shots (can’t name every great thing they did). Seems all nine are playing within themselves and contributing to the team what each of them do best. The time for experimenting is over, particularly with Jackson shooting threes, and they are peaking at the right time. Love this team!!!!
 
Is it a foul if Bryce slips and falls in the lane and nobody touches him? Apparently yes.

But, I’m talking ball handlers. Off ball body contact happens all the time, guys can battle for spots on the floor. Otherwise anybody running into a screen would be committing a foul.

The third foul on Diarra was an abomination, and the missed body check on Hawkins when he rolled his ankle was downright bizarre. The foul on the PC kid Adama was backing down seemed like garbage as well, to be fair.
 
The third foul on Diarra was an abomination, and the missed body check on Hawkins when he rolled his ankle was downright bizarre. The foul on the PC kid Adama was backing down seemed like garbage as well, to be fair.
They have been calling that back down foul both for and against Sanogo all year, just a brutal buzzkill.
 
Arrogant, having an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.

I think that was on display through Ed's entire press conference. He is confusing PeeCee's nice little run with UConn's enduring demonstration of excellence at the championship level. The UConn fan base reflects the team. They energize and support the Huskies at a championship level.

That's what Huskies do.
Totally agree. I think UConn's fanbase matches the expectation level of a championship caliber program no different than Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc etc. Also could you ever picture JC or even Hurley making those comments about ANOTHER fanbase? I was honestly surprised. Its not his place to call any fanbase spoiled. Its kind of like this...I can talk about my family, but YOU cant. Sorry Ed, you aint part of UConn family so keep your fanbase comments to yourself. I was shocked by his statements...especially for someone considered a "good guy".
 
Dan Hurley's only shortfall tonight is not getting Springs into the game w/ a couple of minutes remaining.
You must have missed it - he played about 1m at the end, you could even hear the crowd chanting for him.

GREAT FRIGGIN GAME! Nuff said
 
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Totally agree. I think UConn's fanbase matches the expectation level of a championship caliber program no different than Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, etc etc. Also could you ever picture JC or even Hurley making those comments about ANOTHER fanbase? I was honestly surprised. It’s not his place to call any fanbase spoiled. Its kind of like this...I can talk about my family, but YOU cant. Sorry Ed, you aint part of UConn family so keep your fanbase comments to yourself. I was shocked by his statements...especially for someone considered a "good guy".
I’d give him a break. He’s just firing up his team and their fan base for the next meeting. It’s kind of old school BE actually. There used to be some real WWF style smack back then.
 
Is it a foul if Bryce slips and falls in the lane and nobody touches him? Apparently yes.

But, I’m talking ball handlers. Off ball body contact happens all the time, guys can battle for spots on the floor. Otherwise anybody running into a screen would be committing a foul.
forgot about that one!
 
I think they really wore Carter out. On the offensive end he expended a lot of energy trying to get away from Andre. On the defensive end he was chasing Hawkins all over the gym.
Quite likely. Thanks coaches.
 
Always interesting how the same 20 accounts manage to disappear when we win
Yes interesting.... Why ruin a good moment? There were a couple of things that were less than ideal in the game, TOs, and Newton's lackluster shooting %...However, they did not negatively affect the outcome, so why bother to mention them?

Yes interesting that we get trashed if we post perceived negative comments on a game, and also if we do not post them....in a normal world one would think you cannot have it both ways, but this is the Boneyard, so I guess you can.
 
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