Props to Warde Manuel

[nelsonmuntz]

He didn't want to hire him so much that he gave him an initial deal, made a new deal, and was already on the record before the championship about giving him an extension.

You've got a thing about always needing to be right, huh?

The "initial deal" was a slap in the face, and the entire Calhoun crew views it that way. Hence, the "I told you so" tour this week.

 

[Waquoit]

The "initial deal" was a slap in the face, and the entire Calhoun crew views it that way. Hence, the "I told you so" tour this week.

That "tour" isn't getting nearly the attention of JC's looking for a new job tour.

 

[CTMike]

Both are tours of the Boneyard imagination.

 

[J187Money]

Herbst is above the fray. Calhoun has never been more powerful. Ollie owes Calhoun big after what Calhoun did. Dealing with legends is normal at successful programs, and I suspect Calhoun is not amongst the easiest in this regard. But to have taken the legend head on, and lost as badly as Manuel did here, was just stupid. Manuel could have taken credit for Ollie if he had offerred Ollie any kind of deal up front, even a lousy one. Now, Manuel has no credibility. Notice how often the sportswriters bring it up. Even they are rubbing Manuel's face in it. At this point, the smart thing for Manuel to do would be to give an interview to his favorite Horde writer in a month and just admit he screwed up on Ollie last year.

The problem is that you assume that there is an animosity / power play between Ollie and WM that may not exist. Just because you might crap on WM if he did that to you doesn't mean that Ollie will. I don't see actual evidence of an issue.

What is the upside in talking about the process and whether he made a mistake or not? Scorecard. We won. IDGAF.

 

[J187Money]

The "initial deal" was a slap in the face, and the entire Calhoun crew views it that way. Hence, the "I told you so" tour this week.

And?

 

[J187Money]

Here is how I see it. I trust SH. And she obviously trusts WM. So what Waylon or Freescooter or the Calhoun Crew believe doesn't matter to me.

And yes, I realize that we could be doing well in spite of her leadership, but I don't see evidence of that. So I'm not going to make stuff up.

 

[dante]

Rejected, according to who? All reports of that BS came from unconfirmed "sources" out of footballscoop.com. the offer was rejected in the media, Narduzzi was the media choice. The only open statement about that subject came from Warde at the press conference saying Diaco was his first choice. Few if any in the media knew we were even looking at Diaco.

Ok I'll let you live your fantasy bottim line I can careless if you want to praise Warde. Give him his props for UConn's success but lets turn our heads on his failures.

Those "unconfirmed sourses " sure as hell didn't know what they were talking about but you in the other hand....... lol

 

[J187Money]

Ok I'll let you live your fantasy bottim line I can careless if you want to praise Warde. Give him his props for UConn's success but lets turn our heads on his failures. Those "unconfirmed sourses " sure as hell didn't know what they were talking about but you in the other hand.. lol

Ok so by your logic you can't be happy if Diaco turns out great because you wanted Narduzzi and the department is a failure.

 

[Husky25]

Ok I'll let you live your fantasy bottim line I can careless if you want to praise Warde. Give him his props for UConn's success but lets turn our heads on his failures.

Those "unconfirmed sourses " sure as hell didn't know what they were talking about but you in the other hand.. lol

Unconfirmed sources are unconfirmed for a reason.

 

[intlzncster]

Ok I'll let you live your fantasy bottim line I can careless if you want to praise Warde. Give him his props for UConn's success but lets turn our heads on his failures.

Those "unconfirmed sourses " sure as hell didn't know what they were talking about but you in the other hand.. lol

zero dog in this fight, but hopefully these aren't the same sources claiming JC's intereste in BC.

 

[sportsart]

JC tried to strong arm WM and he was having none of it. THEE most important decision in decades was going to be made by the AD, not the retiring HC.

JC got his wish, but WM made sure he let everyone know he's in charge. Nobody could have predicted KO's quick success, even with JC believing KO was going to be great, it was no sure thing.

WM handled it as good as anyone could. Haters are gonna hate and know it alls are gonna be know it alls.

 

[Alum86]

Nelson is so friggin right. You Warde apologists will kill us.

 

[Alum86]

And Ms Manuel, aka SportsArt

 

[jleves]

Wow this thread is almost as lame as the parade thread. Let me recap:

Ollie tryout and relatively early 5 year contract - Check
Geno contract - Check
PP gone - Check
Diaco contract - Check
New amazing basketball facility about to open - Check
Men's National Championship - Check
Women's National Championship - Check
Parade for Dual National Championships - Check
Lot's of press/talk for UConn going to BiG or P5 generally - Check
Storrs back to the Basketball Center of the Universe - Check

Can you imagine if he was actually productive or generally good?

 

[CTMike]

Nelson is so friggin right. You Warde apologists will kill us.

You are the most negative poster on the BY! And that's saying something with Nelson and some others around!

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Who was pragmatic when hiring KO? Was it solely Warde Manuel? Susan Herbst? The UCONN Board of Trustees' influence? Combination? What's the likelihood anyone on this board truly knows all of the facts?

 

[J187Money]

Who was pragmatic when hiring KO? Was it solely Warde Manuel? Susan Herbst? The UCONN Board of Trustees' influence? Combination? What's the likelihood anyone on this board truly knows all of the facts?

Facts? Facts!?!?! You might as well be talking about practice.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

Here is how I see it. I trust SH. And she obviously trusts WM. So what Waylon or Freescooter or the Calhoun Crew believe doesn't matter to me.

And yes, I realize that we could be doing well in spite of her leadership, but I don't see evidence of that. So I'm not going to make stuff up.

I think you are making a huge assumption about Herbst's opinion of Manuel. If she is the university CEO we think she is, I suspect she is questioning her decision to hire Warde. And people won't easily forget Warde's stunt with the 7 month contract.

Narduzzi turning down the job doesn't bother me all that much. Diaco or Narduzzi is a coin toss for me in terms of resume, and it is hard for anyone, including Warde Manuel, to know how they would perform as the boss. Either Diaco will be successful or he won't. The only thing depending on the success of this hire is the entire athletic program.

 

[J187Money]

I think you are making a huge assumption about Herbst's opinion of Manuel. If she is the university CEO we think she is, I suspect she is questioning her decision to hire Warde. And people won't easily forget Warde's stunt with the 7 month contract. Narduzzi turning down the job doesn't bother me all that much. Diaco or Narduzzi is a coin toss for me in terms of resume, and it is hard for anyone, including Warde Manuel, to know how they would perform as the boss. Either Diaco will be successful or he won't. The only thing depending on the success of this hire is the entire athletic program.

Missing my point. If she wants him gone she will fire him. And how do you know that wasn't her doing? She obviously had to sign off on it.

 

[FDNY99]

I think you are making a huge assumption about Herbst's opinion of Manuel. If she is the university CEO we think she is, I suspect she is questioning her decision to hire Warde. And people won't easily forget Warde's stunt with the 7 month contract.

Are you kidding me Nelson...stop smoking that s@*t and hitting the bottle so early in the morning! If she is the University CEO we all think she is instead of questioning her hire..she would have replaced him already. It amazes me that with all the conspiracy theory garbage you come up with and pin on Herbst/Manuel you FAIL to EVER mention Austin, Hogan/Hathaway..the REAL reason we are where we are! The group who did NOTHING and then went around telling EVERYONE we were next school into the ACC (Yes that was an EXACT statement made by Hathaway around the Athletic Dept and to Herbst when she was first hired)! The group that put this school so behind the eight ball in the athletic department that it had to basically be rebuilt from the ground up! As for the short term contract....that was most likely an edict to Manuel from Herbst with the APR issues just blowing up.

 

[uconndogs]

Manuel deserves no more credit for UCONN hoop success than Hathaway did. Frankly, I think his handling of Ollie's contract was pretty clumsy at best. There is no way to assess the Diaco hire for the next couple of years.

As for CR, he had better be doing all he can to build relationships and alliances that help us along in that regard. That alone won't guarantee success, but it's the drop dead issue that he needs to address in every way he can.

I will give him props for canning Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum during last football season. Doing that during the season took some balls and be all accounts was the right move.