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Fishy said:
The alpha dog is at a prep in New Hampshire right now.
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Are you trying to convince us that Adams is the Khalid El-Amin to Daniel Hamilton's, well, Richard Hamilton?

(Note: No idea who Purvis represents in this scenario.)
 
Geez Fishy how about we play a game or two before you run up the white flag?
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Well the one thing is we have no gimme in this tourney. Even USF is going to give us fits the way we have been playing. They actually played us pretty well the last time in Hartford.
 
Fishy said:
I disagree. He's a better player than he knows.

He won't be the alpha dog next year and anyone who thinks Hamilton has that in him hasn't been paying attention.

The alpha dog is at a prep in New Hampshire right now.
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I think it is possible Hamilton is deferring to Boat. Boat is a very good player and a strong personality.

And sometimes it takes players a long time to fully realize how much they can dominate. Ben Gordon, I remember, didn't quite figure out how good he was until midway through Junior year, so I hope Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Purvis, are in that camp.

But...the big difference between them and Gordon is that Gordon--even when he didn't quite realize how good he was--still scored a lot.
 
Danzz said:
I think we will see huge improvement in Brimah ... next year
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Why on earth would you think that ? He was supposed to improve immensely this year. Against Temple his line was 3 points and 1 rebound in 28 minutes. Sure, he also had 5 blocks, but as pointed out above, many times, his propensity to try and block shots directly results in offensive rebounds or easy baskets.

I'd like to think Brimah will be a different player next year, but at some point, you have to accept that he is what he is.
 
Edward Sargent said:
Well there is an 800 lb gorilla that most often goes unsaid for good reason but KOs personal difficulties have no doubt affected his performance all year long both on the court and off.
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Yup, without a doubt.
 
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Deadrody said:
Why on earth would you think that ? He was supposed to improve immensely this year. Against Temple his line was 3 points and 1 rebound in 28 minutes. Sure, he also had 5 blocks, but as pointed out above, many times, his propensity to try and block shots directly results in offensive rebounds or easy baskets.

I'd like to think Brimah will be a different player next year, but at some point, you have to accept that he is what he is.
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I'll be happy to accept that after he gets a summer to improve his game. If he comes back and is the same, then sure.

This year had lots of little things go wrong in the offseason. Starting with Daniels going pro (again, not a judgement on his decision, but he would undeniably have made this team much better), then we had the offseason surgeries to Purvis and Brimah. And then we had regular season injuries at the least ideal times.

Where we got all the bounces last year, we've gotten none this.
 
Deadrody said:
Why on earth would you think that ? He was supposed to improve immensely this year. Against Temple his line was 3 points and 1 rebound in 28 minutes. Sure, he also had 5 blocks, but as pointed out above, many times, his propensity to try and block shots directly results in offensive rebounds or easy baskets.

I'd like to think Brimah will be a different player next year, but at some point, you have to accept that he is what he is.
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Because college-aged kids tend to get better from year to year? While the freshman-to-sophomore jump typically is the biggest, most guys don't stop improving after their sophomore seasons.

And not for nothing, but Brimah has improved a whole heck of a lot since last year. I know a lot of people consider him a major disappointment because he didn't meet the absurd lottery pick predictions, but we're talking about a player who averaged 4-3 as a frosh. He's not a great player - and may never be - it's not unreasonable to think he'll be a very good, 7-foot college center next season.

That's a valuable thing for a college team to have.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
Are you trying to convince us that Adams is the Khalid El-Amin to Daniel Hamilton's, well, Richard Hamilton?

(Note: No idea who Purvis represents in this scenario.)
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To me, Marques Johnson. (I know I'm mixing eras) I hope I'm wrong. I want to eat crow on this one.
 
tzznandrew said:
I think it is possible Hamilton is deferring to Boat. Boat is a very good player and a strong personality.

And sometimes it takes players a long time to fully realize how much they can dominate. Ben Gordon, I remember, didn't quite figure out how good he was until midway through Junior year, so I hope Hamilton, and to a lesser extent Purvis, are in that camp.

But...the big difference between them and Gordon is that Gordon--even when he didn't quite realize how good he was--still scored a lot.
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I totally agree with Fishy! Adams has leadership written all over him and that's not a bad thing. I don't get that DHam or Rodney have a preference for leading. Not to say they won't assert themselves.

AB enjoys leading but he doesn't have the bb IQ currently. TSam enjoys leading but he should be a back up guard with limited minutes on the floor. Adams is the perfect player for this team as far as leadership goes.

And as far as the other point Fishy made, I agree that Rodney is a better player than he knows. People confuse his outward demeanor. The kid's problem is confidence. Not lack of control. Not selfishness. Not fundamentals. DHam also lacks confidence but I think he overcomes it quicker. Adams does not lack confidence. TSam does not lack confidence. AB is normally confident but he's going through a slight confidence adjustment currently. I expect that changes next season. Kelis Fisher doesn't lack confidence. He's just lost. SamJ does not lack confidence. OC I just can't figure out.
 
Easy to figure out OC: He's a player who doesn't get enough play time to get confidence in his game, and he had poor shooting form as well, which lead to inconsistent shooting game to game.
 
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Deadrody said:
Why on earth would you think that ? He was supposed to improve immensely this year. Against Temple his line was 3 points and 1 rebound in 28 minutes. Sure, he also had 5 blocks, but as pointed out above, many times, his propensity to try and block shots directly results in offensive rebounds or easy baskets.

I'd like to think Brimah will be a different player next year, but at some point, you have to accept that he is what he is.
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He has to get better with his decision making on when to go for the block and when to stay with his man. Right now he leaves his man way to much to go for the block and his man gets easy offensive rebounds and points.If he can do that he'll be a lot better and a big mans camp will help him a lot. He'll get more rebounds simply by staying in position.
Last summer he was recovering from surgery and couldn't practice. He has a lot of time to get better.
 
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