Possible Big 12 Invite rumors

[Fishy]

Also, if you are pro

I remember when the AAC was better than NBE because of TV contract situation. You should remember too, wasn’t that long ago

When was that?

It was worse initially and then UConn was so miffed about the renegotiated contract that they started planning for the door.

 

[August_West]

Also, if you are pro


When was that?

It was worse initially and then UConn was so miffed about the renegotiated contract that they started planning for the door.

For the first 5 years of AAC we got almost 4x BE dollars

 

[UConn990411]

He's pointing out that plenty of posters here said over and over again the AAC was better for UConn than the Big East, some of the most prominent longtime posters here. The AAC was better for money, better for football, and most of all better for basketball. They were actually arguing the AAC was a better basketball league than the Big East.

I can’t speak for those posters, but I wasn’t arguing that the AAC was better for basketball.

With that said, there were legitimate arguments at the time for why the AAC was a better fit for UConn (not to mention the Catholic schools seemed intent on sticking with basketball-only schools). Those arguments ended up being wrong, but that happens sometimes even if they’re based on logical thinking.

And yet none of that really applies here. The AAC becoming a good conference was based purely on predictions, whereas we have years of proof and large sample sizes that the Big 12 is an elite basketball conference, a good football conference, and it’s in another stratosphere financially.

 

[MuchoDogYears]

The NIL...The Transfer Portal....USC and UCLA to B1G....UCF and Cincy to Big 12....Bob Diaco to LSU....Calapari unable to buy recruits...

And now UConn leaving the Big East for the Big Dustbowl Conference. This 7th, and final sign, marks the End Of Days for college sports. Go home everyone.

 

[Jbirdp5]

The ACC literally won’t exist after 2036. They’re going to want to negotiate a fresh deal with (probably) 6 new members from the ACC. They won’t dilute themselves by adding them and then waiting another 4 years or whatever to sit at the negotiating table with FOX and ESPN.

If you believe that about the acc then the big 12 definitely doesn’t want to expire at the same time, it might lead a big 12 school or 2 to jump ship
And join some of the acc schools in your scenario

 

[aburks41]

If you believe that about the acc then the big 12 definitely doesn’t want to expire at the same time, it might lead a big 12 school or 2 to jump ship
And join some of the acc schools in your scenario

Why would they leave a conference that pays more money to join the ACC leftovers? That makes no sense

 

[Bongo Fury]

He wasn't? Didn't he go to be Penn State OC?

No, not until after he was HC at Fordham. We probably complained that he ran the ball too much when he was here. He was successful though.

 

[Stinger92860]

It was a joke response to someone who suggested Brooklyn…jeez

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Also, if you are pro


When was that?

It was worse initially and then UConn was so miffed about the renegotiated contract that they started planning for the door.

UConn, Cincy and USF were getting redistributed Big East exit fees as former members. Uconn the most, USF the least. UConn was getting 11MM+

 

[uconnbill]

^^^
Did you know? Texas and Oklahoma are joining Missouri and Nebraska and Taxas A&M and Colorado on their way out.

Don't worry. AAC members Houston and Cincinnati and UCF are filling the void

Sorry Boys, the Big12 is not at the top if the food chain, they're not dealing from a position of strength, they're grasping. And they're a bad fit for us

Dream on

UConn is not Notre Dame where staying independent in football and staying in the Big East means losing more money and possibly losing more money.

I think the survival of UConn football is going to the Big 12 and improvement in almost all sports except basketball and soccer.

 

[Huskyforlife]

People should take a ride up to the baseball field, not a bad seat in the house.

 

[Jbirdp5]

Why would they leave a conference that pays more money to join the ACC leftovers? That makes no sense

Do you think that if the acc went to market right now their contract would not pull in as much as the big 12? They got screwed by signing such a long term deal when they did, and by not giving themselves an out. When they signed that deal it was the top of the market.

 

[aburks41]

Do you think that if the acc went to market right now their contract would not pull in as much as the big 12? They got screwed by signing such a long term deal when they did, and by not giving themselves an out. When they signed that deal it was the top of the market.

Maybe? But they can’t. And when the “magnificent 7” leave, there is no shot they can top the B12’s deal. It would be in everybody’s best interest to form a 20+ team conference at that point, and try to take on the B1G and SEC

 

[Billy Jack]

Maybe? But they can’t. And when the “magnificent 7” leave, there is no shot they can top the B12’s deal. It would be in everybody’s best interest to form a 20+ team conference at that point, and try to take on the B1G and SEC

And when will that be?

 

[Greg]

There's only 1 answer, if we want to stay competitive as a school long term you have to take the money. I'd love to keep the Big East rivalries alive, but if we're given the option it's a .1 second decision

I would not jump to thst offer, see what is left of the A CC after they get poached. Would be more advantageous geographically. Better rivalries. UCONN football would probably be a laughing stock in any Power Conference scenario. Long term, Big East Hoops is a power conference and will be. Enough cross country travel to play schools you will never care about with the exception of Kansas hoops

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Lol I'm pretty sure that you have clothes older than 24.

I think his wife posted using his handle.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

For the first 5 years of AAC we got almost 4x BE dollars

Prove it

 

[bendm]

Maybe? But they can’t. And when the “magnificent 7” leave, there is no shot they can top the B12’s deal. It would be in everybody’s best interest to form a 20+ team conference at that point, and try to take on the B1G and SEC

Right and if we aren’t in the big12 before they absorb the leftover ACC schools, or the leftover PAC schools for that matter, then we might not get included in the third super conference.

We’d also be making 5-6x more money in the meantime compared to the BE.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Really? I've never heard that and had always assumed that, for whatever reason he was doing fine there.

Nope - they thought he was bizarre and were happy to see him go. I personally thought it might have been a case of throwing dirt on someone that left, but given what we all started experiencing here I soon began to see their point of view.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Are you trying to act like the prepared remarks are where the action is not the Q+A on top of acting like what he said was good. If you read it you have no financial acumen and are trolling.

I won't tell you what my financial acumen is but I will tell you that I read the prepared remarks and the Q&A and I don't see any of their execs indicating the ESPN house is on fire. I see a senior team that knows that they’re in a period of advertising spend contraction (not historically bad) and a continued cable cutting period that they are managing through via transferring to a digital/DTC - linear TV combination that will get them through the otherside in a smart manner.

Question for you: do you think ESPN comes out of this in good to great shape, or do you think they're the next Blockbuster? Because it seems like you think they're headed towards Blockbuster status. Maybe I am misinterpreting, but seems like you are more sensitive towards ESPN's health than I am.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Question for you: do you think ESPN comes out of this in good to great shape, or do you think they're the next Blockbuster? Because it seems like you think they're headed towards Blockbuster status. Maybe I am misinterpreting, but seems like you are more sensitive towards ESPN's health than I am.

Why are the only possible outcomes good to great shape and the next Blockbuster? I imagine that there is a massive amount of ground between the two.

For reasons beyond me ESPN sees nothing wrong with doing this every sc o often, go on a spending spree, listen to complaints from the board or shareholders and then start making massive cuts.

I did read not long ago that Disney was looking into the possibility of spinning off ESPN. This could merely be a publicity ploy, it could be a move (advertising that they may sell ESPN) to soften the blow of the layoffs that were imminent. It could have been a legitimate idea. Regardless, in the very near term ESPN won't be able to throw around the money they were throwing around six, twelve, eighteen months ago.

 

[Jbirdp5]

Maybe? But they can’t. And when the “magnificent 7” leave, there is no shot they can top the B12’s deal. It would be in everybody’s best interest to form a 20+ team conference at that point, and try to take on the B1G and SEC

If it gets all the way to 2036 and they don’t leave by then I highly doubt the magnificent 7 will even be a thing anymore. UConn is clearly developing a relationship with yormark….the guy was on campus, if something makes sense for both sides we will do it…that time is clearly not now for him or us. Bringing in one northeast team does little for us or the conference

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

Why are the only possible outcomes good to great shape and the next Blockbuster? I imagine that there is a massive amount of ground between the two.

For reasons beyond me ESPN sees nothing wrong with doing this every sc o often, go on a spending spree, listen to complaints from the board or shareholders and then start making massive cuts.

I did read not long ago that Disney was looking into the possibility of spinning off ESPN. This could merely be a publicity ploy, it could be a move (advertising that they may sell ESPN) to soften the blow of the layoffs that were imminent. It could have been a legitimate idea. Regardless, in the very near term ESPN won't be able to throw around the money they were throwing around six, twelve, eighteen months ago.

Of course, there's ground in between - I just threw it out there because it seems like some people on here are throwing shade on ESPN like they're on the Brink of ruin. Believe me, I'm not happy with the way they haven't exactly stuck their necks out a bit for UConn as it relates to conference realignment but I have to admit that they are generally well run and make their share/more than their share of revenue and profits. Certainly, when advertising rates get stagnant/decline due to contracting economic times it is risky to have long term fixed/mostly fixed deals with sports entities including college sports. But, that is their business model and over their 4 decade tenure they have been astute enough to navigate choppy waters.

I think other divisions of Disney are in worse shape than ESPN and ESPN will likely have less layoffs than the others. I cant recall exactly but was the spinoff talk more about Disney realizing their other divisions needed propping up financially and spinning off ESPN was a way to do that?

 

[Billy Jack]

If it gets all the way to 2036 and they don’t leave by then I highly doubt the magnificent 7 will even be a thing anymore. UConn is clearly developing a relationship with yormark….the guy was on campus, if something makes sense for both sides we will do it…that time is clearly not now for him or us. Bringing in one northeast team does little for us or the conference

Where is Yormak going with this? There are complaints on this board about UConn being out on an island in relation to the restoration the Big Dust Bowl. That’s us, but does the Big Dust Bowl want a member out on an island? They’ve already been through that decade of discontent with West Virginia. They just backfilled with Cincinnati to give the Miuntaineers a partner.

And they now have a new island with BYU (almost 900 miles from their closest BIG 12 competitor). It seems to me that the Big XII’s more likely direction for expansion is to the west. So, I think that our chances to even have a Big XII offer to consider depend heavily on the future of the PAC 12. If they hold together, Yormak will look east, but if he can peel off any of that membership, then I don’t see any offer coming our way. PAC 12 members can also read the numbers on the Bug 12 TV contract and compare that to whatever they can come up with in their next TV deal, which will for sure not include the LA market, devaluing their product right from the get go.

 

[willie99]

This upcoming football season can be yuuuuuge for us.

HookC making a run this, advancing to the Supers or dare I say Nebraska, would be a big help

Hockey making the dance and maybe the second weekend would be nice

And the basketball programs doing their thing, maybe another title (or 2) and we're looking even better

We need to keep winning, it's a very important year. Winning will solve everything and make all our dreams come true. During the first realignment tsunami, our timing couldn't be worse. The GOAT retiring, MBB banned, questions about our elite program's future coupled with the worst hire in the history of D1 football, Paul Pasqualone, and we were left out.

The questions about our MBB program are in the distant past. Geno still doing his thing. Penders and Mora doing great. We're in a different spot today. A great season from Mora, and we're absolutely in a different place.

Just win baby