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JimHurley said:
He’s not shorter than Gilbert. Gilbert I’ll give 5’9.5” and Cole I’ll give 5’10.5”
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Fellow left handed Big East PG Markus Howard is only listed at 5'11".
 
JimHurley said:
He’s not shorter than Gilbert. Gilbert I’ll give 5’9.5” and Cole I’ll give 5’10.5”
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He’s just shorter than I thought. I saw him next to Al and my heart sank.
 
OP is right on... We desperately need to recruit another PG to lead this team in the future. I cannot put my stock into a guy who hasn't played high D1 yet, Gaffney, who is still a work in progress, and the belief that Bouk, Jackson, and Adams can all be useful ballhandlers when none of them have really proven that just yet.

Hurley's offense needs guys who can make plays. Sadly, our two upperclassmen in the backcourt are just too flawed in key areas to be guys who you can depend on.
 
freescooter said:
He was recruited by BU Monmouth, Howard, and got a look from St Bonnie’s though I don’t think an offer. But he was the best player in New Jersey. Hence my suspicion that he is an off the bench guy. Plus he is only 6-1.
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And Ja Morant was recruited by who? Recruiting rankings are wrong all the time. Its a good general predictor, but it isnt the end all be all. Scott Hazeltine was a top 10 recruit. How’d that work out?

Cole is going to be a stud. Look at his stats and watch him play.
 
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boog204 said:
OP is right on... We desperately need to recruit another PG to lead this team in the future. I cannot put my stock into a guy who hasn't played high D1 yet, Gaffney, who is still a work in progress, and the belief that Bouk, Jackson, and Adams can all be useful ballhandlers when none of them have really proven that just yet.

Hurley's offense needs guys who can make plays. Sadly, our two upperclassmen in the backcourt are just too flawed in key areas to be guys who you can depend on.
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So you'd rather put "your stock" in an unproven freshman than a player who has shown he can score and distribute even against better comp? Your post just doesn't make sense to me.
 
I saw Fatts Russell in person against George Mason. I kept thinking that this Hurley recruit is hopefully the kind of player that Coach will bring to our team over the next few years. A point guard who can shoot and pass. Nothing more, nothing less.

BTW Rhode Island is my sleeper this March.
 
mauconnfan said:
He was only McDs AA because of where the game was if I remember correctly. Not near the Top 10.
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Yes, the game was in Boston so they had 2 players from the area. Both should not have been McD's All Americans. For mythical Boneyard Bucks, name the other player.
 
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UCfor3 said:
Neil Fingleton
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Neil was short compared to Robert Wadlow.
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JimHurley said:
Well then you're setting yourself up to be pleasantly surprised. RJ is an under control ball handler, can penetrate, shoot, and find the open man. He's a pure PG that will fit Hurley's system flawlessly. Are you ignoring some of the insiders saying he's been the best player in practice? It'd be quite a head scratcher if our best player comes off the bench. Brace yourself because RJ is going to play big minutes and is going to be a major contributor. This year off practicing with the squad will only make him better.
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Ajou Deng was the next great one. Rodney Purvis was a Ferrari dominating practice. I don't believe the hype anymore.
 
ucp990411 said:
Ajou Deng was the next great one. Rodney Purvis was a Ferrari dominating practice. I don't believe the hype anymore.
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Don’t really care about the hype. Feel confident in saying he’s an offensive upgrade to what we have with our older PG. That should help.
 
ucp990411 said:
Ajou Deng was the next great one. Rodney Purvis was a Ferrari dominating practice. I don't believe the hype anymore.
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Good for you. This confirms you’ve never seen RJ play.
 
Fatroony5 said:
Don’t really care about the hype. Feel confident in saying he’s an offensive upgrade to what we have with our older PG. That should help.
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He shot 24% from 3 and in the mid 30's overall against the better competition outside of his league his soph year. Not a done deal by any means that he won't be better but reason to be concerned. Hopefully this year off will make him more ready for next year and the competition he will face in the BE. He certainly looks like a player and we need him to be solid at worst.
 
mauconnfan said:
He shot 24% from 3 and in the mid 30's overall against the better competition outside of his league his soph year. Not a done deal by any means that he won't be better but reason to be concerned. Hopefully this year off will make him more ready for next year and the competition he will face in the BE. He certainly looks like a player and we need him to be solid at worst.
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mauconnfan said:
He shot 24% from 3 and in the mid 30's overall against the better competition outside of his league his soph year. Not a done deal by any means that he won't be better but reason to be concerned. Hopefully this year off will make him more ready for next year and the competition he will face in the BE. He certainly looks like a player and we need him to be solid at worst.
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Took a quick peak at the numbers again and here’s what I found. He played 11 games against P5/G5 competition (I included A-10 teams and Ivy League). His output is as followed in those games
20.3 PPG
6.3 assists/game
3 TOs/game
32% on 3s
35% on 2s
Nearly 8 free throws/game at 81%

Shooting percentages aren’t great but his usage rates in these games are really high. Probably due to lack of talent on his team. It’s hard to draw exact conclusions from these but I found the numbers interesting. They won’t ask him to score 20 a game here. They just need solid, poised play. Given the production currently from our older guard, I still feel good about it being an offensive upgrade. I’ll take an uptick on offense over a probable downgrade in defensive rating.
 
Go to Rucker Park and extend offers to the best HS point guards. Problem solved.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
We have Cole and Gaffney. Bouk can also handle the ball and Adams will have to improve his handling skills
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Being a good point guard is much more than ball handling. You must be an extension of the coach. This program needs a Khalid type point guard.
 
ucp990411 said:
Being a good point guard is much more than ball handling. You must be an extension of the coach. This program needs a Khalid type point guard.
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Yes, we could use a Khalid. Keep in mind, he was a top-20 recruit who chose us over Kansas and Georgetown. I have faith in Hurley’s ability to recruit high-level talent and under the radar players, but I think we need to win before we can secure truly elite talent like El-Amin again.
 
ucp990411 said:
Being a good point guard is much more than ball handling. You must be an extension of the coach. This program needs a Khalid type point guard.
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Every program wants a Khalid type pg.
 
imno1 said:
So you'd rather put "your stock" in an unproven freshman than a player who has shown he can score and distribute even against better comp? Your post just doesn't make sense to me.
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Needed to word it better... I meant that some seem to think we are fine b/c we have Cole and the assumption that everyone else will improve or be good enough. I think it should be an absolute priority recruiting wise to find a legit PG. Not a combo guard a la Gaff, Bouk, Adams.
 
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