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Pitino: “That’s why next year, the only game we’re playing at Carnesecca is Connecticut. The rest, we’re gonna negotiate.”

Rico444 said:
What I find funny is that after our game at MSG last year, didn't it come out that St. John's didn't want to play us there this year? And then Rick got the job and said they need to play at MSG more, and said of course we're playing UConn there. And now he's trying to back out of playing us there.

All things considered I don't have any issue with them wanting to play us at Carnasecca. It's supposed to be a home game for them, I would be pissed if we had a home game and it was at best 50/50 with another team's fans.
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I have no issue with playing at Carnasecca as a one off to honor Louis for his hundredth birthday, particularly if his health would permit him to actually be there. I doubt Hurley has any issue with it either.

The real question is whether the St. John's athletic department and administration is willing to forgo the extra revenue that Connecticut fans bring when we pack MSG. If so, we will just buy tickets off the secondary market and pack kind Carnesecca.
 
Waquoit said:
They are certainly within their rights to play where they want. And we're within our rights to give them stick for it.
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It's actually not within their right to play (fully) where they want as the Big East can dictate the terms of where games are played. Not saying they would or have previously, but the bylaws state if you play home games twice or more at a venue the Big East can determine where a particular game is played at their discretion.
 
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Storrs South said:
It's actually not within their right to play (fully) where they want as the Big East can dictate the terms of where games are played. Not saying they would or have previously, but the bylaws state if you play home games twice or more at a venue the Big East can determine where a particular game is played at their discretion.
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You also have MSG themselves who have a say and they definitely won’t want to give up the money that UConn brings
 
CL82 said:
Except "the breakeven number" isn't 10,500. Connecticut pays the XL center $40,000 plus a three dollar per seat surcharge to play there. Even though it charges Connecticut that above fair market lease rate, it keeps all the concession money and all the parking money.

The cost to open up Gampel Is negligible by comparison and we keep concessions and parking monies. If we only have 10,500 fans showing up the XL center, we are losing money. But, you know all that, since we've had this conversation many times before.

Dan Benedict, who is in a better position than you or I to understand the financials says that playing at CDRA managed facilities costs UConn in excess of $7 1/2 million a year.
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And yet we've continued to play there for 40 years, somehow have managed to win 5 national titles and don't take nearly as much slack from the state from reporting $40M+ deficit in athletics.

Maybe it isn't all that bad?
 
ConnHuskBask said:
And yet we've continued to play there for 40 years, somehow have managed to win 5 national titles and don't take nearly as much slack from the state from reporting $40M+ deficit in athletics.

Maybe it isn't all that bad?
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Lol, you seem pretty willing to write off the record deficits as inconsequential. They are exactly the point. The post I replied to was talking about financials.

Is the XL center more convenient for some fans? Definitely. Do we get charged way above the market rate for the privilege of playing in and out of date facility that the coaches and players dislike? Also definitely.
 
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We've been on the other side of this as well. UMass stopped playing UConn when UConn insisted the game be played in Gampel. UMass was on record saying they could "dictate terms". Now nobody has heard from them in about 30 years.
 
ecasadoSBU said:
Did Slick Rick just jinx Lou?

I wouldn't be making early birthday plans for a man that is about to turn 100. Just Sayin'...
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Sick Rick already thought of that ....
 
CL82 said:
Then it becomes a memorial game.
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Yeah but as morbid as it sounds my guess is that Rick was thinking more along the lines of a Weekend at Bernie's scenario.
 
CL82 said:
Lol, you seem pretty willing to write off the record deficits as inconsequential. They are exactly the point. The post I replied to was talking about financials.

Is the XL center more convenient for some fans? Definitely. Do we get charged way above the market rate for the privilege of playing in and out of date facility that the coaches and players dislike? Also definitely.
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And every single post regarding this you only cite expense with no mention of revenue.

Omitted from this discussion each time is the PSL revenue from Hartford tickets. Given that the arena is essentially sold out for the entire season that seems relevant.
 
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Also - While we are at it. Can we start hyping the February 3rd early. We should make a thread and make it a point to pack MSG full of UConn fans this year. I already told my wife to circle the date in her calendar. NO EXCUSES.

LETS JAM PACK MSG! Lets make it their only sellout. Start spreading the word to the non boneyard folks
 
ecasadoSBU said:
Also - While we are at it. Can we start hyping the February 3rd early. We should make a thread and make it a point to pack MSG full of UConn fans this year. I already told my wife to circle the date in her calendar. NO EXCUSES.

LETS JAM PACK MSG! Lets make it their only sellout. Start spreading the word to the non boneyard folks
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Go for it…

 
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ConnHuskBask said:
And every single post regarding this you only cite expense with no mention of revenue.

Omitted from this discussion each time is the PSL revenue from Hartford tickets. Given that the arena is essentially sold out for the entire season that seems relevant.
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Wow, that's an outstanding observation! You really should email Dave Benedict to explain to him that the university is not actually losing $7.5 million per year because of leasing facilities from the CDRA.

Or maybe, just maybe, AD Dave knows a little bit more about this than you? Just throwing that out there as a possibility you might want to consider.
 
ecasadoSBU said:
Also - While we are at it. Can we start hyping the February 3rd early. We should make a thread and make it a point to pack MSG full of UConn fans this year. I already told my wife to circle the date in her calendar. NO EXCUSES.

LETS JAM PACK MSG! Lets make it their only sellout. Start spreading the word to the non boneyard folks
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Lol I got 22 tickets midcourt 200 level for friends and family for my 60th. A few are actually Seton Hall or Providence fans/alums, but nobody will be wearing red. And if they love me, they will be screaming loudly for UConn.
 
Since everyone is talking about Feb. 3rd, I got two tickets to sell. Long story short, my buddy bought two as well without me knowing lol

Let me know if interested
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CL82 said:
Wow, that's an outstanding observation! You really should email Dave Benedict to explain to him that the university is not actually losing $7.5 million per year because of leasing facilities from the CDRA.

Or maybe, just maybe, AD Dave knows a little bit more about this than you? Just throwing that out there as a possibility you might want to consider.
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"UConn athletics operates without an estimated $7.5 million in lost revenue potential by playing some basketball games, some hockey games and all football games off campus, per its agreement with the Capital Region Development Authority."

UConn isn't "losing" anything in that scenario. First off that $7.5M number is only revenue, and doesn't account for expense, and secondly (and most obviously) being the lack of a football stadium in Storrs?

I also estimate that I operate with a $7.5M in loss revenue by not having the UConn men basketball host their games in my driveway while were at it.

"According to the university, one basketball game at the XL Center costs UConn $60,000 to 70,000. UConn spent approximately $4 million competing at the XL Center and Pratt & Whitney Stadium in 2021-22."

Notice how when UConn frames their argument they only refer to revenue lost by not playing in Storrs and when playing in Hartford only refer to expense?

If the financials were so compelling why not just paint the full picture? My guess is because they aren't as drastic as made out to be.

This is all to arrive back at the fact that it's good that UConn maintains a presence in Hartford for political goodwill as well as making themselves more accessible to fans and corporate partners.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
"UConn athletics operates without an estimated $7.5 million in lost revenue potential by playing some basketball games, some hockey games and all football games off campus, per its agreement with the Capital Region Development Authority."

UConn isn't "losing" anything in that scenario. First off that $7.5M number is only revenue, and doesn't account for expense, and secondly (and most obviously) being the lack of a football stadium in Storrs?

I also estimate that I operate with a $7.5M in loss revenue by not having the UConn men basketball host their games in my driveway while were at it.

"According to the university, one basketball game at the XL Center costs UConn $60,000 to 70,000. UConn spent approximately $4 million competing at the XL Center and Pratt & Whitney Stadium in 2021-22."

Notice how when UConn frames their argument they only refer to revenue lost by not playing in Storrs and when playing in Hartford only refer to expense?

If the financials were so compelling why not just paint the full picture? My guess is because they aren't as drastic as made out to be.

This is all to arrive back at the fact that it's good that UConn maintains a presence in Hartford for political goodwill as well as making themselves more accessible to fans and corporate partners.
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I'm sure you're right and he's wrong. I mean he's got way more information at his fingertips than you do, but you seem very certain. Very certain indeed....

Well, actually not all that certain since you've acknowledge that you're guessing.
 
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