Pitino: “That’s why next year, the only game we’re playing at Carnesecca is Connecticut. The rest, we’re gonna negotiate.”

[SixRings]

Yet another thread derailed due to that dumb f poster.

 

[Devland]

According to the NY Post, Pitino may not get his way. The Big East determines which venue each team's top 2 marquee home games are played. They also mentioned that St John's agreement with MSG may create problems.

 

[huskymedic]

According to the NY Post, Pitino may not get his way. The Big East determines which venue each team's top 2 marquee home games are played. They also mentioned that St John's agreement with MSG may create problems.

 

[Tyler2Rings]

If SJU says they won't play UConn at MSG, I'm sure MSG will ask what the plans are to get a commensurate OOC opponent to fill the gap. I think this only happens if SJU is able to get a Duke or Kentucky type into the Garden

 

[buddy]

Pitino has actually done UConn a favor by confirming that MSG is indeed Storrs South and other conference commissioners should be aware that UConn is indeed the sixth borough

 

[gwhuskyfan]

"St. John’s and Pitino felt Hurley’s sideline behavior in the UConn win was inappropriate, according to sources."

Cry more, Rick

 

[Waquoit]

I like how their comeback was "Our coach won something when he was somewhere else".

 

[nadav]

Rick might want to stick to banging cougars. The guys at the BE and FOX will handle the scheduling.

 

[alexd]

Rick might want to stick to banging cougars. The guys at the BE and FOX will handle the scheduling.

Yes, but the banging is only for "very briefly" according to Slick Rick's own testimony.

 

[dennismenace]

I'm not a fan of PC or your postings on this board but if this is correct it tends to confirm what I said about Hartford vs Gampel and Hurley above. Some took offense at my posting and as is usually the case with people who lack evidence for their arguments they resorted to snide remarks and attacked the messenger rather than the message. Pettiness is always a sign of weakness.

 

[dennismenace]

"St. John’s and Pitino felt Hurley’s sideline behavior in the UConn win was inappropriate, according to sources."

Cry more, Rick

LOL it usually is. He grandstands to the fans and the refs take it out on the team with disproportionate fouls. Rick should be glad but he is too egotistical to miss an opportunity to see how high up the pole he can piss.

 

[pepband99]

Answering the question, without really answering the question.

All of this nonsense and blabber, because:
1) This corresponds just as much to when your team has sucked, or we were really good, usually both.
2) Our AD is on the record as saying dates are decided by the conference, and we will have to schedule venue based on availability. Do you want PC closet lover Mike DiMauro to call the XL, and get the Wolfpack moved?

1/21/78 L 47-57 HCC
1/23/80 W 74-63 NHC
2/21/81 W 71-57 NHC
2/20/82 W 90-61 NHC
1/26/83 L 62-65 HCC
2/20/84 W 62-59 H
2/9/85 W 84-70 HCC
2/22/86 L 67-74 HCC
1/24/87 L 53-61 HCC
1/9/88 W 79-72 HCC
1/7/89 L 78-80 HCC
2/19/90 W 75-72(ot) GP
1/19/91 L 102-108 HCC
2/22/92 W 94-73 GP
1/23/93 W 68-61 GP
2/19/94 W 81-73 H
1/14/95 W 70-62 GP
2/6/96 W 99-77 GP
1/29/97 L 47-62 GP
2/23/98 W 77-68 HCC
1/27/00 W 64-50 HCC
2/6/01 W 83-68 HCC
2/5/02 W 67-56 HCC
3/5/03 L 70-76 GP
1/24/04 L 56-66 HCC
1/27/07 L 72-84 HCC
1/17/08 L 65-77 XL
1/31/09 W 94-61 GP
2/13/11 W 75-57 GP
3/9/13 W 63-59 (ot) GP
2/16/21 W 73-61 GP
12/18/21 L 53-57 XL
2/22/23 W 87-69 GP

 

[Tyler2Rings]

Answering the question, without really answering the question.

All of this nonsense and blabber, because:
1) This corresponds just as much to when your team has sucked, or we were really good, usually both.
2) Our AD is on the record as saying dates are decided by the conference, and we will have to schedule venue based on availability. Do you want PC closet lover Mike DiMauro to call the XL, and get the Wolfpack moved?

1/21/78 L 47-57 HCC
1/23/80 W 74-63 NHC
2/21/81 W 71-57 NHC
2/20/82 W 90-61 NHC
1/26/83 L 62-65 HCC
2/20/84 W 62-59 H
2/9/85 W 84-70 HCC
2/22/86 L 67-74 HCC
1/24/87 L 53-61 HCC
1/9/88 W 79-72 HCC
1/7/89 L 78-80 HCC
2/19/90 W 75-72(ot) GP
1/19/91 L 102-108 HCC
2/22/92 W 94-73 GP
1/23/93 W 68-61 GP
2/19/94 W 81-73 H
1/14/95 W 70-62 GP
2/6/96 W 99-77 GP
1/29/97 L 47-62 GP
2/23/98 W 77-68 HCC
1/27/00 W 64-50 HCC
2/6/01 W 83-68 HCC
2/5/02 W 67-56 HCC
3/5/03 L 70-76 GP
1/24/04 L 56-66 HCC
1/27/07 L 72-84 HCC
1/17/08 L 65-77 XL
1/31/09 W 94-61 GP
2/13/11 W 75-57 GP
3/9/13 W 63-59 (ot) GP
2/16/21 W 73-61 GP
12/18/21 L 53-57 XL
2/22/23 W 87-69 GP

My takeaway from this is that we should be playing PC at New Haven Coliseum every year. Undefeated

 

[SixRings]

Answering the question, without really answering the question.

All of this nonsense and blabber, because:
1) This corresponds just as much to when your team has sucked, or we were really good, usually both.
2) Our AD is on the record as saying dates are decided by the conference, and we will have to schedule venue based on availability. Do you want PC closet lover Mike DiMauro to call the XL, and get the Wolfpack moved?

1/21/78 L 47-57 HCC
1/23/80 W 74-63 NHC
2/21/81 W 71-57 NHC
2/20/82 W 90-61 NHC
1/26/83 L 62-65 HCC
2/20/84 W 62-59 H
2/9/85 W 84-70 HCC
2/22/86 L 67-74 HCC
1/24/87 L 53-61 HCC
1/9/88 W 79-72 HCC
1/7/89 L 78-80 HCC
2/19/90 W 75-72(ot) GP
1/19/91 L 102-108 HCC
2/22/92 W 94-73 GP
1/23/93 W 68-61 GP
2/19/94 W 81-73 H
1/14/95 W 70-62 GP
2/6/96 W 99-77 GP
1/29/97 L 47-62 GP
2/23/98 W 77-68 HCC
1/27/00 W 64-50 HCC
2/6/01 W 83-68 HCC
2/5/02 W 67-56 HCC
3/5/03 L 70-76 GP
1/24/04 L 56-66 HCC
1/27/07 L 72-84 HCC
1/17/08 L 65-77 XL
1/31/09 W 94-61 GP
2/13/11 W 75-57 GP
3/9/13 W 63-59 (ot) GP
2/16/21 W 73-61 GP
12/18/21 L 53-57 XL
2/22/23 W 87-69 GP

Thanks for putting this together. Q; What location is the loan H Up until 1994?
it is uncanny how poor our record is against PC in the HCC/XL.

 

[Palatine]

2/23/98 W 77-68 HCC
1/27/00 W 64-50 HCC
2/6/01 W 83-68 HCC
2/5/02 W 67-56 HCC
1/24/04 L 56-66 HCC
1/27/07 L 72-84 HCC
1/17/08 L 65-77 XL
12/18/21 L 53-57 XL

So basically in the last 8 games in Hartford, it's 4 wins, 4 loses. We should do better against Pee Cee that's true. But these things work out over the long term.

I will concede that Pee Cee plays its best basketball in Jan/Feb. But UConn fans can feel good by our performances in March and April.

 

[Skiblets]

Thanks for putting this together. Q; What location is the loan H Up until 1994?
it is uncanny how poor our record is against PC in the HCC/XL.

Our record against any respectable opponent will always be better at Gampel assuming a large enough sample size. This really isn’t statistically significant

 

[BlueMAB]

Delusion

 

[HooperScooper]

Our record against any respectable opponent will always be better at Gampel assuming a large enough sample size. This really isn’t statistically significant

Someone within the last 2-3 years on here showed that UConn's record in Hartford and at Gampel was very close. It was in a discussion about why the team shoots worse in Hartford than Gampel, which wasn't supported by the statistics. So there didn't seem to be any statistical evidence that Gampel was a better venue for the Huskies when it comes to wins and losses. If anyone has something that refutes this then please post.

 

[Kemba Time]

Our record against any respectable opponent will always be better at Gampel assuming a large enough sample size. This really isn’t statistically significant

This is somewhat true, of course, only if you go back far enough to play out the fact that UConn didn't have one of two buildings before 1990 and wasn't on the level of top Big East teams for much of that period, so the XL takes a hit on those seasons while Gampel doesn't.

It might fluctuate one way or another for various opponents because we're talking about a small subset of numbers, but since then there has never been (and will never be) a significant difference in performance between the two venues -- especially when you weight for strength of schedule in each venue.

Using Nova as the first team that comes to mind with a nice sample size and consistent enough teams to make a comparison seem reasonable -- Since Gampel opened, UConn has the exact same winning % in both venues. 9-3 at XL, 6-2 at GP.

2022-23 – W XL
2021-22 – W XL
2017-18 – L XL
2012-13 – L XL
2010-11 – W GP
2008-09 – W XL
2006-07 – L GP
2005-06 – W GP
2004-05 – W XL
2002-03 – W XL
2001-02 – W XL
2000-01 – L XL
1998-99 – W XL
1997-98 – W XL
1995-96 – W GP
1994-95 -- L GP
1993-94 – W XL
1992-93 – W GP
1991-92 – W GP
1990-91 – W GP

 

[Skiblets]

This is somewhat true, of course, only if you go back far enough to play out the fact that UConn didn't have one of two buildings before 1990 and wasn't on the level of top Big East teams for much of that period, so the XL takes a hit on those seasons while Gampel doesn't.

It might fluctuate one way or another for various opponents because we're talking about a small subset of numbers, but since then there has never been (and will never be) a significant difference in performance between the two venues -- especially when you weight for strength of schedule in each venue.

Using Nova as the first team that comes to mind with a nice sample size and consistent enough teams to make a comparison seem reasonable -- Since Gampel opened, UConn has the exact same winning % in both venues. 9-3 at XL, 6-2 at GP.

2022-23 – W XL
2021-22 – W XL
2017-18 – L XL
2012-13 – L XL
2010-11 – W GP
2008-09 – W XL
2006-07 – L GP
2005-06 – W GP
2004-05 – W XL
2002-03 – W XL
2001-02 – W XL
2000-01 – L XL
1998-99 – W XL
1997-98 – W XL
1995-96 – W GP
1994-95 -- L GP
1993-94 – W XL
1992-93 – W GP
1991-92 – W GP
1990-91 – W GP

I’d like to see more of a regression analysis next time! I kid. Appreciate the additional data. Always felt like we were better at Gampel

I stand corrected

 

[Husky25]

I’d like to see more of a regression analysis next time! I kid. Appreciate the additional data. Always felt like we were better at Gampel

I stand corrected

While both venues have their pros and cons, and my preferences tend to shift between the two in a variety of ways, I've thought for sometime that having two home courts with different characteristics is a net positive for the program.

Location is both a net positive and negative. XLC is more centrally located, which is attractive to fans outside of Eastern Connecticut. It has better parking options, and more pregame/postgame options for fans. On the other hand, Gampel is better for students and parking is evidently not as convenient for the late arrivals.

The courts are different. The Court is the floor of the arena on campus. The court is laid over a rubber mat, which is, itself, laid over a sheet of ice at XLC.

Capacity-Though lower, 10,000 voices going crazy in a geodesic dome can get head-splittingly loud and can probably surpass the decibel level of nearly 16k at XLC, which has cavernous rafters. XLC can get real loud as well, it just seems like it takes more effort. Fans don't seem as constantly engaged.

I prefer Gampel's lighting as well. I'm pretty sure they changed out the fixtures in XLC, as I don't recall hearing buzz during foul shots recently and the entire seating area is still lit up. Gampel's fixtures are aimed at the court. A strategy that I believe in part was aimed at deemphasizing the deteriorating interior roof tiles at the time.

Finally...
Shooters Background. Students and other baseline fans are closer to the baseline and the steepness of the stands provides a more shallow background behind the clear backboard, which I believe is the preference of the higher caliber players. By virtue of the hockey rink, baseline seats and the rows leading to the concourse at XLC are less steep and provide a deeper background, mirroring most professional venues where many postseason tournament games are played.

However, the above factors, coupled with at least 80% crowd support gets the team prepared to play in various other environments around the country. Duke has crazy support at 9,500 seat Cameron Indoor and I would love for UConn students to surround the courtside, but I can't be convinced that there is not a bit of an adjustment when they visit Louisville, UNC, or play in the bigger venues of the postseason tournaments. UConn has already played half their home games and most road games in a similar environment.

 

[Chief00]

Very different stuff. Pitino is trying to schedule UConn out of MSG because UConn fans outnumber St Johns fans in NYC in those "home" games

UConn splits between XL and Gampel because of financials, yes. But no venue will ever be decided because the other team's fans will travel and outnumber UConn's in either building

Isn’t it more CT politics than financials. While attendance is higher at XL, it is hard to make money there for UConn due to structure of agreement.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Waquoit]

Isn’t it more CT politics than financials. While attendance is higher at XL, it is hard to make money there for UConn due to structure of agreement.

C'mon Chief. If the breakeven number is 10,500 and they draw 15,500; they are making money.

 

[UConnTrumbull]

Gotta hand it to Rick. He will go to any means necessary to avoid us at our 3rd home court.