Peach Jam Sunday 7/17

[navery12]

Fair but if it did help with landing Ball then I get it. Also it helps to have guys you, theoretically, count on being here for 4 years and likely want the degree and or won't being getting looks from NBA.

All of this and now the staff can (presumably) get him to the prep school of their choice to get him real coaching

 

[kansashusky]

Fair, it just seems a bit odd to commit that early to a guy that evidently won't bring much value in his first couple years. That's a thing you save a scholarship for

I was killed for this take.

 

[bendm]

I was killed for this take.

maybe it's because people didnt think your take was backed up by enough evidence and we've gotten a bit more tape on the guy recently.
or maybe when it comes to the BY lynch mob it's not what you say it's how you say it, except in the unpredictable circumstances when it's both

 

[navery12]

I was killed for this take.

maybe it's because people didnt think your take was backed up by enough evidence and we've gotten a bit more tape on the guy recently.
or maybe when it comes to the BY lynch mob it's not what you say it's how you say it, except in the unpredictable circumstances when it's both

I was one of the ones who killed you for it. It would be a perfectly reasonable take now after all the games we've seen, even if I still think he's a fine 12th or 13th man. But coming from you who'd spent months just coming on here and throwing cold water on any ounce of positivity (and admitted as much) it came across as not a genuine opinion and you coming here to troll

 

[navery12]

 

[Umami Zen]

Prep School for Ross/Ball is part of the process.. They will both be better prospects when they come to Storrs because of that prep senior year..

The talent is there to be cultivated.. Just have to put in the time and sweat equity.

 

[Storrs South]

Didn't watch but just saw the box score for Jaylin Stewart 10 points on 4-16 shooting but 9 rebounds and 4 assists plus they won.

 

[UconnU]

And that is something to brag about? Not saying should get fired but long way from being something special. One NCAA win in 6 years is better than zero. Actually UConn got into the round of 64 in 2022 and Rutgers did not. Don't see anyone touting "UConn got into the last 2 NCAA tournaments, isn't that special".

Rutgers Scarlet Knights (Big Ten Conference) (2016–present)​		Overall	Big14
2016–17	Rutgers	15–18	3–15	14th
2017–18	Rutgers	15–19	3–15	14th
2018–19	Rutgers	14–17	7–13	T–10th
2019–20	Rutgers	20–11	11–9	T–5th	NCAA Division I Canceled
2020–21	Rutgers	16–12	10–10	T–6th	NCAA Division I Round of 32
2021–22	Rutgers	18–14	12–8	T–4th	NCAA Division I First Four

Steve can be proud, this record isn’t even that bad given how competitive their league is and seems to be on the upward trajectory. Things never happen over night.

 

[Huskyforlife]

this kid should be the priority for small ball 4. He’s got way more strength and athleticism than Middleton/Stewart. Like most of these guys he needs to work on his shot, but the other two aren’t knock down shooters either.

 

[husky429]

this kid should be the priority for small ball 4. He’s got way more strength and athleticism than Middleton/Stewart. Like most of these guys he needs to work on his shot, but the other two aren’t knock down shooters either.

Stewart is a good shooter. You haven't been looking at the box scores... he's probably good for 30-35% on fairly high volume. Not knockdown like Griffiths... but he's good.

Coen is a total non-shooter. Worse than Andre was in high school. He has a pretty nice scoring package at the rim and is a freak athlete/defender though. If he can bulk up to 220 and hopefully grow another inch or two, and play a little 4/5--that would be the best option. He's built BIG for a 17 yr old.

 

[Huskyforlife]

Stewart is a good shooter. You haven't been looking at the box scores... he's probably good for 30-35% on fairly high volume. Not knockdown like Griffiths... but he's good.

Coen is a total non-shooter. Worse than Andre was in high school. He has a pretty nice scoring package at the rim and is a freak athlete/defender though. If he can bulk up to 220 and hopefully grow another inch or two, and play a little 4/5--that would be the best option. He's built BIG for a 17 yr old.

I asked before, but why hasn’t Stewart landed any high major offers? At this point I think high floor players like Coen might be our best option.

 

[Storrs South]

Stewart is a good shooter. You haven't been looking at the box scores... he's probably good for 30-35% on fairly high volume. Not knockdown like Griffiths... but he's good.

Coen is a total non-shooter. Worse than Andre was in high school. He has a pretty nice scoring package at the rim and is a freak athlete/defender though. If he can bulk up to 220 and hopefully grow another inch or two, and play a little 4/5--that would be the best option. He's built BIG for a 17 yr old.

From video at least his form on his shot looks decent, at least to me but you would know better, so maybe it can be salvaged? I mean Andre shot mid 30s last season so have to think with practice he can add that to his game.

I do get more excited at prospect of Stewart just because Castle and Ball can both shoot but not core element to their game and think Stewart could complement that nicely and create space for Castle and Ball to make plays, distribute and attack the rack. Ross is a shooter, but hasn't shot particularly well at PJ.

Coen looks lethal in transition, but just wonder how it would work with him in half court. Much of highlight tape is in open court.

Opponents figured out Andre is amazing in transition and just stopped attacking offensive glass to neutralize that and challenge him to make plays in half court.

 

[husky429]

this kid should be the priority for small ball 4. He’s got way more strength and athleticism than Middleton/Stewart. Like most of these guys he needs to work on his shot, but the other two aren’t knock down shooters either.

Put together the stats because I'm weird. This is through yesterday at Peach Jam.

CARR

12.2 PTS
5.4 REB
2.2 AST

1.4 TO
0.9 STL 0.8x5 1 2 0 1 1
1.9 BLK (2.8 blocks per at peach jam!)

51% FG
15% 3FG (1.8 attempts per game)
42% FT (3.8 attempts per game)


STEWART

16.5 PTS
5.9 REB
2.3 AST

2.4 TO
1.4 STL
1.3 BLK

48% FG (13.1 attempts per)
32% 3FG (3.9 attempts per)
68% FT (3.8 attempts per)

As you can see, Stewart is actually a pretty good shooter. Fairly high volume and a decent percentage--especially considering it's AAU and they're playing a TON of games. Carr is a complete non-shooter. He is 1/12 from deep at Peach Jam, or something like that. He's terrible at shooting the ball, even at the FT line.

Stewart is not the same kind of athlete as Carr. He needs to drop a few pounds and get a lot stronger. I think his athleticism is probably what's holding him back from the big-time offers. Alex Karaban had the same issue... his other visits were to Northwestern and Penn State. Not exactly the creme de la creme of high-major ball. But I am very convinced he will be a beast of a college player by year 2 or 3. Production is production.

Carr is clearly a freak athlete and has a decent scoring package around the rim. He would be a great addition to the team and I'd be happy to get a commitment. But I have a very hard time getting excited about any perimeter prospect that can't shoot at this point. It's 2022 and we're supposedly playing 4 out. Unless he's being recruited as a 6'7 post, I don't see how we have the spacing necessary. TBH I wouldn't be against that... make it a 5 out and have Carr defend the post in certain matchups. We can't be putting 3 non-shooters on the perimeter year over year and just expecting magically to have good spacing.

Considering we have Solo coming in (super streaky shooter) and Castle (getting better, but not knockdown consistently), and we're going to have a big on the floor at all times... I am inclined to think Stewart should be the priority. Shooting is the most important skill in the game. Carr doesn't have "takeover" ability the same way that Stewart does either. Carr is never going to drop 40 in a game... Stewart might.

On the other hand... offers speak for themselves. Carr has the offers to back up his play, and Stewart doesn't. We shall see! I'd be happy with either.

 

[NJHoops]

I asked before, but why hasn’t Stewart landed any high major offers? At this point I think high floor players like Coen might be our best option.

One report indicated that people thought he was a lock for Washington (apparently not the case). Next week, once staffs have the opportunity to get back together and fully discuss what they saw, will be telling when we see who is offering who.

 

[husky429]

From video at least his form on his shot looks decent, at least to me but you would know better, so maybe it can be salvaged? I mean Andre shot mid 30s last season so have to think with practice he can add that to his game.

I do get more excited at prospect of Stewart just because Castle and Ball can both shoot but not core element to their game and think Stewart could complement that nicely and create space for Castle and Ball to make plays, distribute and attack the rack. Ross is a shooter, but hasn't shot particularly well at PJ.

Coen looks lethal in transition, but just wonder how it would work with him in half court. Much of highlight tape is in open court.

Opponents figured out Andre is amazing in transition and just stopped attacking offensive glass to neutralize that and challenge him to make plays in half court.

I'd be happy with either. Totally different players, but each are very good. I don't know anything about their personalities, expressed interest etc. Just from a pure skill standpoint, Stewart seems to be a better fit. If Carr wants to play with his friend Castle, you get the commitment for sure. Neither is so much better than the other than you'd hold them off like a plan C or anything. It's a "first to commit" situation in my book.

And yeah, his shooting form isn't bad. But I don't really think you can ever turn someone into a very good shooter after being a total NON-shooter before, ya know? It takes years and years to develop that. Andre did improve his shooting... but it was only 1.8 attempts per game when he was WIDE open. Teams were still willing to sag way off him.

Coen has no half-court scoring ability. I'm sure the staff knows it and has a plan for him. He will get the Andre treatment in the half-court...and it wasn't pretty at times.

 

[Storrs South]

Today's Peach Jam schedule:

Seattle Rotary (Jaylin Stewart): 3:30 PM ET
PSA Cardinals (Boogie Fland & Yves Missi): 5:00 PM ET
Team Melo (Ball & Ross): 6:30 PM ET
NH Lightning (Singare): 8:00 PM ET
Georgia Stars (Carr): 8:00 PM

Today's UA schedule:

Middlesex Magic (Estrella): 12:45 ET
Atlanta Xpress (Castle): 2:00 PM ET

Think both then play later in day depending on if they win or lose

 

[Candyman]

Honestly, it’s hard to get excited by Carr when the description is worse shooter than Andre. Does he have a nice handle and beat people off the bounce?

 

[husky429]

Honestly, it’s hard to get excited by Carr when the description is worse shooter than Andre. Does he have a nice handle and beat people off the bounce?

He's an animal in the open court. Half-court he's limited to mostly dunks and 1-2 dribble layups. D1 defense is going to make him almost useless in the half-cpurt outside of lobs and maybe high-post moves, until he builds his skillset. Like Andre as a freshman, or even Whaley (might be the better comp). Form is better on his shot than Andre's now... hoping that's a sign he can develop.

He's a better defender than Andre at the same stage of his development and much stronger.

 

[HooperScooper]

I wonder why Dave Borges is down at Peach Jam. Certainly got a lot of content out of it.

It’s been a busy week for UConn. The NCAA’s live evaluation period began on Wednesday at noon, and associate head coach Kimani Young and assistant Luke Murray were in town soon after. Murray watched 2023 UConn commits Solomon Ball and Jayden Ross play for Team Melo on Wednesday and Thursday, and saw impressive recruiting target Jaylin Stewart play for Seattle Rotary on both days, as well.

Young watched 2023 target Coen Carr play on Wednesday night, and both Murray and Young were among a crowded sideline Thursday afternoon to watch the PSA Cardinals, which features 2024 Husky targets Boogie Fland and Yves Missi, play Team Final. On Thursday evening, Young watched New Heights Lightning, which features Tahaad Pettiford and Youssouf Singare’, both prime Husky targets.

Hurley and assistant Tom Moore spent Wednesday in Chicago, watching top 2023 commit Stephon Castle play at an Under Armour event. Hurley was due to arrive at Peach Jam on Thursday night, while Moore was slated to fly out to Los Angeles for an Adidas event.

It’s just as important for coaches to show their faces at games involving committed players as it is at games featuring recruiting targets. With that in mind, make of it what you will that UConn had no representation at Brad Beal Elite’s game on Wednesday or Thursday evenings. Brad Beal Elite features Scotty Middleton, a 2023 wing who has narrowed his choices down to UConn, Seton Hall and Ohio State. However, conventional wisdom indicates the Huskies are out of the chase.

In fact, Murray actually left the gym shortly before tip-off.

High-major and low-major coaches, scouts, agents: Who’s at Peach Jam, who’s not ... and why

The Peach Jam basketball tournament attracts college coaches of all levels, from programs like Notre Dame to a mid-major like Quinnipiac.

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[Cardiac]

 

[Cardiac]

 

[UconnU]

Rutgers is a major player here.

 

[Storrs South]

Today's Schedule:

Peach Jam -
PSA Cardinals (Brandon Williams) - 11 AM ET
Georgia Stars (Coen Carr) - 2 PM ET
Team Melo (Ball & Ross) v. Seattle Rotary (Jaylin Stewart) - 3:30 PM ET
NH Lightning (Singare) - 8 PM ET

UAA -
Atlanta Xpressions (Castle) 11:30 AM ET
MIddlesex Magic (Estrella) 12:45 PM ET

 

[ThabeetDown]

Coen Carr 18 pts 13 rbs right now...but 1-8 from the FT line!

 

[husky429]

Carr ended up with 20/15. Good %s except for 1/8 from the FT line.

 

[Huskyforlife]

I know I’m in the minority, but this kid is gonna be a player. I hope we prioritize him. Take Stewart as well if he’ll come.

 

[husky429]

Solo

• 8/3/2. 4/11 from the floor. 0/1 from deep.
• I like how much he tries to take charges. Not always getting the call in AAU, but it’s a mentality thing I love to see.
• I have truly never seen worse shot selection from a recruit of ours
• Seems to get blocked quite a lot? I think he’s predictable going to his left… I am seeing 2 or more per game. 4x this game.
• Benched the whole second quarter too?
• Ref called a charge on and and-1 but it shouldn’t have been… kids foot was on the circle.
• Not thrilled with his vision outside of drive and kicks when he has been trained to look for it. Doesn’t have that game sense.
• Got benched because he was being selfish and useless on offense.
• Reminds me of Jalen with his body control in the air… very advanced
• Did anice job locking Stewart up from scoring. Too short to stop his passing.

Ross

• 14/2/1. 6/9 from the floor. ⅖ from 3.
• Love his effort on defense today
• He’s going to be a completely different player when he gets stronger
• Absolute money on corner 3s especially… absolute disaster scoring any other way inside the line.
• Steal and slam with 2 seconds left in the half!
• GREAT game for him… hitting his 3s, transition dunks, good effort on defense..
• Hands aren’t so great, but neither are his teammates passes. Not sure what to think of it.
• I think he had 4 or 5 transition dunks this game.. 2 of them off of steals. LOVE that intensity.
• Stewart and Ross look the same height. Probably 6’7 in shoes.

Stewart

• Endd up with 11/6/7. 5/10 from the field. 0/1 from 3. ½ from the line. Had a really hard time getting open on the perimeter to shoot the rock with Solo’s defense.
• Full stop: He needs to be our number 1 priority right now. This wasn’t even that good of a game for him and I think that. Too much skill for his size to ignore. Super well-rounded.
• GREAT drive and dump for an assist with solo guarding him… handles pressure really well. The TOs I’ve seen are usually dumb decisions in transition.
• Got a nice mid-range J… Solo tried to take the charge
• Should have an extra assist… he had one on a perimeter swing he wasn’t credited with.
• I think he could be a very good small-ball 4… his work from the low shoulder passing the rock to open shooters in great
• Limited athletically… will effect him in the open court and on defense. Solid frame to build strength and athleticism though. Good wide shoulders. Long arms.
• Benched most of the second quarteR? Not sure why
• BEAUTIFUL behind the back pass when double-teamed to a cutter… teammate lost the dribble, but it was a great pass.
• FANTASTIC ball control and handles for a 6’7 kid
• Excellent outlet passes…reminds me of KLove
• Dump off passes are a thing of beauty… had 3
• Had a nice transition block
• Shot is off so he’s getting his assists this game. Passing over solo’s head mostly.
• BONEHEADED dunk miss. Team is down ten and he went for the poster instead of putting it in.
• Needs to come to the ball on post-ups… keeps getting it stolen.
• Went for the poster late in the game but missed the dunk. He definitely has the vertical with a head of steam. I think he doesn’t quite have the quick second jump or hip mobility.
• Not sure he has the athlticism to get open on the perimeter if he’s face-guarded like this. Needs screens and a set offense.

 

[bendm]

Take Stewart as well if he’ll come.

i'm hoping for both. we could very well be losing 6 guys after this season. newton/alleyne/calcaterra to graduation and hawk/aj/sanogo to the pros.

if castle does a midyear reclass then i dont think a 5 man class in '23 of ball/stewart/ross/coen and either estrella or singare is too big especially w/ ross being a developmental guy. plus we'd still need to bring in at least 2 more transfers next summer (3 if springs leaves):

Diarra- Transfer
Castle- Ball
Karaban- Stewart
Samson- Carr
Clingan- Estrella

Bench: Transfer- Ross- Springs?

 

[Storrs South]

i'm hoping for both. we could very well be losing 6 guys after this season. newton/alleyne/calcaterra to graduation and hawk/aj/sanogo to the pros.

if castle does a midyear reclass then i dont think a 5 man class in '23 of ball/stewart/ross/coen and either estrella or singare is too big especially w/ ross being a developmental guy. plus we'd still need to bring in at least 2 more transfers next summer (3 if springs leaves):

Diarra- Transfer
Castle- Ball
Karaban- Stewart
Samson- Carr
Clingan- Estrella

Bench: Transfer- Ross- Springs?

I hope they go for both, I don't see any similarities in style of play between Carr and Stewart and I think they pair nicely with Castle, Ross, and Ball so I don't see why they couldn't bring in both guys.

Castle & Carr in a PnR game would be deadly. Stewart and Castle are both playmakers. Stewart Castle and Ross can hit from perimeter. Castle, Ball, and Stewart can be bullies driving to the basket. Castle and Stewart can both be primary ballhandlers. All 5 of Castle, Ball, Ross, Stewart, and Carr would pair nicely especially when you add in Samson, Karaban, and Clingan.

 

[Storrs South]

I charted all the major guys UConn was / is looking at as well as the commits from Peach Jam

Solo Ball (8 games):
41% FG, 30% 3FG, 71% FT, 12 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 2:1.1 A/T, 25 MPG

Jaylin Stewart (7 games):
49% FG, 35% 3FG, 70% FT, 17 PPG, 6.6 RPG, 2.9:1.9 A/T, 1.6 BPG, 1.1 SPG, 26 MPG

Coen Carr (7 games):
47% FG, 21% 3FG, 27% FT, 12.6 PPG, 7 RPG, 1:2 A/T, 2.4 BPG, 1.3 SPG, 27 MPG

Scotty Middleton (7 games):
40% FG, 29% 3FG, 65% FT, 12.7 PPG, 4.7 RPG, 2.1:1.6 A/T, 24 MPG

Jayden Ross (8 games):
41% FG, 24% 3FG, 46% FT, 8 PPG, 4 RPG, 1.5:1 A/T, 1.25 SPG, 23 MPG

Couple observations: there is a lot of volatility for each of these players game to game even in decent sample sizes like this. Middleton was in line to have a Stewart type week but then went 2-17, 0-7 from 3 in the last game. No idea what happened there. May have been playing a little over his skis so numbers here might better reflect what he is capable of. Didn't watch the game so don't know. Likewise, Stewart went off for 33 one game bringing his scoring up relative to everyone else. He did have 1 other game with 25 points and shot decent but not jaw dropping percentages.The Carr FT percentage looks terrible but again is the product of one game (yesterday 1-8). Otherwise would have been bad but not horrific. Jayden's 3PG% and FT% are concerning but he rarely went to the line so it's a small sample (13 FTs) and would have hoped he would have shot above 30% from distance (took 29 3s).

By and large the first four guys had pretty similar weeks hovering around 12 PPG and good but not great percentages with the exception of Stewart who really showcased his scoring ability but also his ability to impact other parts of the game (see A/T, BPG, and SPG).

Going off of these stats, Stewart had the best week by far followed by Solo & Middleton (tie), Carr, then Jayden, but at least in Jayden's case he finished on a very strong note yesterday going 6-9 from the field for 14 points and a couple steals so you see his upside.