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Sure, but we took Springs 2 weeks before he enrolled. Again, the timing just seems weird to take that type of kid.
Not just directed at you,but the amount of people who voice concern that we get a kid too early, compared to the ones who complain about getting involved and putting pressure on kids too late is comical on the BY
 
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Borges wrote an article about Griffiths today. It didn’t seem worth its own thread, but it’s relevant enough here.

Obviously Gavin was not aware that UConn stopped recruiting him hard as per The BoneYard
“It’s hard to turn down any school, especially a great school like UConn that was recruitng me pretty hard,” he noted. “The coaches there are all great dudes. Coach (Dan) Hurley, Coach Murray — he’s a great recruiter and a great dude, too.”
 
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you can call it whatever you want; missed, faded, sold to the highest bidder, etc. etc. etc. the fact is we were actively recruiting a bunch of top 50 wings/forwards/bigs and didn't land any, for whatever reason.

now we seem to be down to 3 or 4 guys (dilione, stewart, carr, singare) that were all offered the summer before their senior years which is relatively late in the recruiting cycle. to an outsider that seems like a scramble as opposed to how staff planned it.

whether we fill out '23 with these remaining guys or with transfers next summer or a combination of both, i'll be excited and optimistic. but i think it's fair to say this class isn't coming together as nicely as hoped or as nicely as they have the last couple of years. and if it's not fair to say that then you can sue me for intentional infliction of emotional distress!
We need to ramp up our NIL, which we are trying to do now.
 
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Obviously Gavin was not aware that UConn stopped recruiting him hard as per The BoneYard
“It’s hard to turn down any school, especially a great school like UConn that was recruitng me pretty hard,” he noted. “The coaches there are all great dudes. Coach (Dan) Hurley, Coach Murray — he’s a great recruiter and a great dude, too.”
Can't read the article but he's the only one I'm really bummed about missing on and he just loves Pikiell, not much you can do. Staff put a lot of time in on Justin Edwards too.
 
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Wasn’t the plan always to start local and then expand the recruiting footprint? Don’t we hope to identify talent and get our targets regardless of where they are from?
of course but we dont want 3* guys that go to high school 3000 miles away at the expense of 5* guys in our backyard.

So a top 5 recruiting class is not coming together very nicely? To be clear if we get 2 of those we have a top 2 class
a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we land stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year not #2 once the other schools fill out their classes. i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
 
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of course but we dont want 3* guys that go to high school 3000 miles away at the expense of 5* guys in our backyard.


a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we landed stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year not #2
10-15 is a great class. Most teams (outside the 3 or 4 real recruiting juggernauts) have a year or two in the top 15 when they have ins with talent and a couple years outside. You hit top 10-15 every year and you build a powerhouse top 10 program.
 
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10-15 is a great class.

i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
 
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of course but we dont want 3* guys that go to high school 3000 miles away at the expense of 5* guys in our backyard.


a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we land stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year not #2 once the other schools fill out their classes. i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
Bendm has had valid concerns around 2023 recruiting, the Middleton string of events, last min offers, etc. for the past month. And every time he points something out like “does offering a new wing mean we might not be leading for Middleton” people say overreaction or boneyard hysteria. Fact of the matter is the 2023 class had a chance to be a monster class with Bowen, Edwards, Griffith, etc. and we’ve missed on most of our original targets. Doesn’t mean it can’t still be a great class, just means things haven’t gone as planned so far.
 
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Obviously Gavin was not aware that UConn stopped recruiting him hard as per The BoneYard
“It’s hard to turn down any school, especially a great school like UConn that was recruitng me pretty hard,” he noted. “The coaches there are all great dudes. Coach (Dan) Hurley, Coach Murray — he’s a great recruiter and a great dude, too.”
But Gavin insisted that neither Pikiell’s Connecticut roots, nor the Rutgers coach’s relationship with his father (the two didn’t know each other all that well), had a big impact on his decision.

“He’s from Connecticut, but that didn’t really have much to do with it,” Griffiths said. “It’s just more that he’s a really good guy and a good coach. He made me feel like Rutgers is a good place for me.”

“It was a cool connection,” Griffiths added, “but it didn’t really have much of an impact.”


I could have lived with Pikiell having a relationship with Gavin's father as being the reason losing him, but the fact that wasn't a factor is tough to swallow. The flagship university for the state should never lose out on an in-state recruit they target, unless they choose a Duke/Kentucky/UNC/Kansas etc. Losing him to Rutgers is embarrassing. Good for Gavin for thinking Rutgers is the best place for him, selfishly I hope he made a mistake ha.

Can't read the article but he's the only one I'm really bummed about missing on and he just loves Pikiell, not much you can do. Staff put a lot of time in on Justin Edwards too.
I saw Justin Edwards play in-person earlier this year, he would have easily played D-1 minutes this past year as a junior in HS. Just a tremendous 3-level scorer with a great feel for the game matched with next-level athleticism. The only thing that will stop him from being a 1-and-done is his attitude. As long as he doesn't go to Nova I'll live with not getting him, assuming he goes to one of those bigger name schools.
 
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of course but we dont want 3* guys that go to high school 3000 miles away at the expense of 5* guys in our backyard.


a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we land stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year not #2 once the other schools fill out their classes. i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
This staff has had the best offseason this program has seen in many many years but you still aren't satisfied/have to find something to complain about. Give it a rest and be excited about who we did get. This staff puts a ton of effort into recruiting and it shows by the ways these kids talk about the staff
 
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Bendm has had valid concerns around 2023 recruiting, the Middleton string of events, last min offers, etc. for the past month. And every time he points something out like “does offering a new wing mean we might not be leading for Middleton” people say overreaction or boneyard hysteria. Fact of the matter is the 2023 class had a chance to be a monster class with Bowen, Edwards, Griffith, etc. and we’ve missed on most of our original targets. Doesn’t mean it can’t still be a great class, just means things haven’t gone as planned so far.
100% spot on. I think the thing holding the program back from landing these top targets is lack of NCAA tournament success. Need a Sweet 16-type run to get the engine going otherwise we're in trouble.
 
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100% spot on. I think the thing holding the program back from landing these top targets is lack of NCAA tournament success. Need a Sweet 16-type run to get the engine going otherwise we're in trouble.
Isn't the number 1 2023 recruit in the nation going to a school that hasn't made the tournament in 6-7 years?
 
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Isn't the number 1 2023 recruit in the nation going to a school that hasn't made the tournament in 6-7 years?
I mean if you're happy with losing in the first round and think that's not a negative impact in recruiting, be my guest! God forbid I think success on the court = success in recruiting...

And considering DJ Wagner hasn't committed yet, and will probably end up at Kentucky, fail to see your point.
 
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I mean if you're happy with losing in the first round and think that's not a negative impact in recruiting, be my guest! God forbid I think success on the court = success in recruiting...

And considering DJ Wagner hasn't committed yet, and will probably end up at Kentucky, fail to see your point.
The #1 recruit is GG Jackson and he's going to South Carolina
 
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This staff has had the best offseason this program has seen in many many years but you still aren't satisfied/have to find something to complain about. Give it a rest and be excited about who we did get. This staff puts a ton of effort into recruiting and it shows by the ways these kids talk about the staff
It's like clockwork, every spring/summer he panics about recruiting and the lack of commitments/guys we didn't get. Last year it was the massive mistake we made in not going after Avery Brown, the kid who committed to Columbia.

Maybe one of these years he'll be right and we'll have a disappointing class, but until that happens I have very little to not trust Hurley in recruiting. It's becoming a bit like the boy who cried wolf
 
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I mean if you're happy with losing in the first round and think that's not a negative impact in recruiting, be my guest! God forbid I think success on the court = success in recruiting...

And considering DJ Wagner hasn't committed yet, and will probably end up at Kentucky, fail to see your point.

So I see you're really tapped into recruiting. GG Jackson is the #1 recruit going to South Carolina, a team that hasn't made the tournament since 2017. They've actually only made the tournament 4 times in the last 30 years.

My point is be happy the staff has built the best team we've had since they've been here and also the best incoming recruiting class. I hope and believe it will translate to tournament success.
 
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a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we land stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year
i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
"A top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly" is blatantly untrue. It means less than a top 10-15 class in fall of the next year, but it means SOMETHING. It allows for a margin of error with not needing to hit every single remaining top target.

You go on to say that you'd be happy landing our current targets, but then you spend several posts lamenting that we were not successful in other targets. We're "scrambling", yet already better positioned than 99% of other schools.

It makes people assume you would not actually be happy with that excellent end result. In other words, your actions don't match your words, or at least don't seem to.
 
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The #1 recruit is GG Jackson and he's going to South Carolina
So I see you're really tapped into recruiting. GG Jackson is the #1 recruit going to South Carolina, a team that hasn't made the tournament since 2017. They've actually only made the tournament 4 times in the last 30 years.

My point is be happy the staff has built the best team we've had since they've been here and also the best incoming recruiting class. I hope and believe it will translate to tournament success.

1) He's reclassifying to 2022 most likely
2) ESPN and 247 Composite have DJ #1
3) GG flipped from UNC to his hometown team after they hired a new coach, not like it's a weird, random choice
4) SC went to a Final Four 5 years ago, not 6-7 years ago. They have more recent success in the NCAA Tournament than UConn does...UConn has 1 tournament win in 6 years. SC has 4.

Don't be a bully when you're not even understanding my point. I follow recruiting. I just speculated that we are missing out on some top targets due to lack of NCAA success. Why is that wrong? I've never trashed this class. If you read my posts, I've praised Castle, Ross and Ball. I'm frustrated we lost Gavin. I'll accept your apology any time.
 
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1) He's reclassifying to 2022 most likely
2) ESPN and 247 Composite have DJ #1
3) GG flipped from UNC to his hometown team after they hired a new coach, not like it's a weird, random choice
4) SC went to a Final Four 5 years ago, not 6-7 years ago. They have more recent success in the NCAA Tournament than UConn does...UConn has 1 tournament win in 6 years. SC has 4.

Don't be a bully when you're not even understanding my point. I follow recruiting. I just speculated that we are missing out on some top targets due to lack of NCAA success. Why is that wrong? I've never trashed this class. If you read my posts, I've praised Castle, Ross and Ball. I'm frustrated we lost Gavin. I'll accept your apology any time.
You seem like someone who wants UConn to be unsuccessful so you can say "see I was right!!!". Be happy we've had the most successful offseason in many years, stop worrying about who we don't have. Be positive for once
 
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You seem like someone who wants UConn to be unsuccessful so you can say "see I was right!!!".B
How is wanting to win a game in the tournament not wanting UConn to be successful? Genuinely confused still at whatever point you're trying to make to not appear wrong. I even liked your earlier post when you said people are overreacted negatively about this class. It's a great class. I just think it could have been better if we didn't go 0-2 in the tourney the last two years. Again, fail to see how that is an unfair point to make...
 
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ricker got crucified for lamenting not landing a single local 5*, which is something 100% of us were hoping for, so i came to his defense because it should be a perfectly reasonable topic to post about here without trolling. naturally i'm the one now getting crucified... but bring it on you bootlickers i'm still having fun!
 
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How is wanting to win a game in the tournament not wanting UConn to be successful? Genuinely confused still at whatever point you're trying to make to not appear wrong. I even liked your earlier post when you said people are overreacted negatively about this class. It's a great class. I just think it could have been better if we didn't go 0-2 in the tourney the last two years. Again, fail to see how that is an unfair point to make...
It is insane how far some people will go to defend a staff that hasn't had a lick of postseason success.
 
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of course but we dont want 3* guys that go to high school 3000 miles away at the expense of 5* guys in our backyard.


a top 5 recruiting class in july means diddly and even if we land stewart and coen it would be around #10-15 in a given year not #2 once the other schools fill out their classes. i said i'd be happy with it but we have a long way to go so dont try to tell me offering these guys in july of their senior years' was the plan all along. as opposed to the past couple years there is some apparent scrambling going on i'm allowed to point it out.
We’ve had 2 top 10 classes per 247 since 2011. The Fab year with Gilbert & them, and last year after factoring in the mid year reclassifications.

Both of those classes combined to have 4 guys transfer out (not including Gilbert’s grad year). These class rankings while important, aren’t the end all be all.

To your point about timing of offers & “scrambling around”, some of that may imo have to do a little bit with the transfer portal and such. Losing 3 kids who would have had eligibility still is prob a wrench that was thrown into the original plans. As mentioned previously, offers aren’t the First step in recruiting, staff has been in touch with these kids. (How long before offer is unknown of course)
 
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But Gavin insisted that neither Pikiell’s Connecticut roots, nor the Rutgers coach’s relationship with his father (the two didn’t know each other all that well), had a big impact on his decision.

“He’s from Connecticut, but that didn’t really have much to do with it,” Griffiths said. “It’s just more that he’s a really good guy and a good coach. He made me feel like Rutgers is a good place for me.”

“It was a cool connection,” Griffiths added, “but it didn’t really have much of an impact.”


I could have lived with Pikiell having a relationship with Gavin's father as being the reason losing him, but the fact that wasn't a factor is tough to swallow. The flagship university for the state should never lose out on an in-state recruit they target, unless they choose a Duke/Kentucky/UNC/Kansas etc. Losing him to Rutgers is embarrassing. Good for Gavin for thinking Rutgers is the best place for him, selfishly I hope he made a mistake ha.


I saw Justin Edwards play in-person earlier this year, he would have easily played D-1 minutes this past year as a junior in HS. Just a tremendous 3-level scorer with a great feel for the game matched with next-level athleticism. The only thing that will stop him from being a 1-and-done is his attitude. As long as he doesn't go to Nova I'll live with not getting him, assuming he goes to one of those bigger name schools.
Edwards is down to Kentucky and Tennessee and will choose very soon. Kentucky is the consensus pick.

 

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