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Harry Perretta is now the longest tenured active D1 coach, having started in 1978.
 
CL82 said:
I was going post on the checkerboard something along the lines that it was right decision, better for her to remembered in her prime, etc. but then I read the mean spirited thread there on Diana and figured- the heck with it.

So much for southern graciousness.
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I never even considered posting over there, because I was already aware of the thread bashing DT (and Geno). It's just a horrible group of people, with one or two exceptions.
 
doggydaddy said:
I'm not sure what they did 4 years ago has to do with the state of the program today.

Do you know who their returning players and their incoming recruits are? What they bring to the table?

I'd be glad to discuss it, but I don't think this thread is the right place for it.
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I don't think it's an overstatement to say that the 2013 recruiting class will be critical to the future success of the Tenn program. This likely explains the recruiting role carved out for Summitt in her new position. The feeling must be that Warlick and her staff aren't established enough to reel in the big-time recruits that the program needs.
 
Wbbfan1 said:
From the GoVolsXtra article:

It’s Summitt’s understanding that she still can attend practice and talk to the players. She also said that she can call recruits, which will be of paramount importance. The Lady Vols currently have just six returning players on campus and three high school seniors signed for next season.
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Under NCAA rules, she will not be allowed to call recruits (unless she is designated as one of their three allowable assistant coaches - which is extremely unlikely). Note that the Tennessee list of her permissible activities refers only to "on-campus recruiting".
 
UConnCat said:
I don't think it's an overstatement to say that the 2013 recruiting class will be critical to the future success of the Tenn program. This likely explains the recruiting role carved out for Summitt in her new position. The feeling must be that Warlick and her staff aren't established enough to reel in the big-time recruits that the program needs.
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Agreed. Recruiting is always critical, but it would be foolish to pin a program's hopes on one recruiting class. Five years, to me, is an ideal parameter in which to gauge and evaluate.
 
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Doggy, I was just about to do just that, but pulled back. Thanks for the advice.

Godspeed to Pat, What a formidable career!
 
VAUConnFan said:
Agreed. Recruiting is always critical, but it would be foolish to pin a program's hopes on one recruiting class. Five years, to me, is an ideal parameter in which to gauge and evaluate.
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So, since the last NC and FF appearance, it's been 4 years. Can we use the 2012-13 season as the 5th?

Clearly, they have not been the program they have been in the past. And next year will be a problem for them, IMO.
 
I don't think that Warlick can be judged on last year's performance. That had to have been the most unique coaching experience. She deserves more than one year under that circumstance before her performance can be properly assessed.
 
I previously read that Pat had encouraged him to take a job if coaching was something that he wanted to do. He had also applied for the same position at Baylor.
 
Although we knew it was coming, it's still hard to believe that we will never see Pat coach again.

Thinking of all the bitterness and anger most of us felt about Pat ending our rivalry ... doesn't this just prove that life is too short to waste on the unimportant stuff?

No one could have predicted it would end this way. So very, very sad.
 
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alexrgct said:
Although that's an admissable perspective, the opposing viewpoint is that if she hasn't had head coaching opportunities elsewhere, what would make her the best candidate for one of the very top coaching opportunities anywhere? And yes, I'd have the exact same question for Chris Dailey in an analogous scenario. Either something didn't qualify her or she was happier being an assistant. Neither of those possibilities would give me a warm fuzzy.
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It is always difficult to be a new coach following a legendary one.

Think of Summitt as Bill Guthridge, the longtime assistant (30 years) for Dean Smith. Guthridge took over for the three years after Dean Smith retired, before transitioning to the true successor (supposed to be Roy Williams, but he shockingly said no; after three years of Matt Doherty, Roy Williams decided to go back to UNC).
 
Huskymaniac said:
He wasn't willing to break enough rules for Baylor so he ends up at Marquette.
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Yeah, we take only the worst offenders. He wouldn't last a day in Waco.
justML said:
Although we knew it was coming, it's still hard to believe that we will never see Pat coach again.

Thinking of all the bitterness and anger most of us felt about Pat ending our rivalry ... doesn't this just prove that life is too short to waste on the unimportant stuff?

No one could have predicted it would end this way. So very, very sad.
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Yeah, unimportant stuff like phones calls and text messages. :)
 
CamrnCrz1974 said:
It is always difficult to be a new coach following a legendary one.

Think of Summitt as Bill Guthridge, the longtime assistant (30 years) for Dean Smith. Guthridge took over for the three years after Dean Smith retired, before transitioning to the true successor (supposed to be Roy Williams, but he shockingly said no; after three years of Matt Doherty, Roy Williams decided to go back to UNC).
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At least Dean Smith didn't sit behind the UNC bench or didn't enter the locker room at halftime. At least I don't remember that happening. I'm sure Smith was available to Guthridge to offer his advice and counsel, but my memory is that Dean Smith tried as best he could to fade into the background and allow Guthridge to coach the team. For Warlick's sake, I hope Pat chooses not to sit behind the bench during games and I hope Pat refrains from entering the locker room at halftime. Holly should be allowed to coach the team in games without Pat's physical presence so close by.
 
I cannot even imagine women's basketball without Pat as part of it. To think of her as just a background figure is very sad. What a career and what a legacy she leaves behind as a head coach. Just to think of the thousands and thousands of lives that she has shaped in positive way.
 
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alexrgct said:
Although that's an admissable perspective, the opposing viewpoint is that if she hasn't had head coaching opportunities elsewhere, what would make her the best candidate for one of the very top coaching opportunities anywhere? And yes, I'd have the exact same question for Chris Dailey in an analogous scenario. Either something didn't qualify her or she was happier being an assistant. Neither of those possibilities would give me a warm fuzzy.
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I would note that Pokey Chapman took over capably for Sue Gunter in a situation affected by Sue's health, too.
 
VAUConnFan said:
Former Coach:)
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I do know Coach Wooden cont to have an office there,but he really did not play an active role
regarding the team after he retired in 75! After Dean Smith retired, I think he cont to have an office on the campus. No one is saying it,but Pat did not seem to be really there when I observed her on TV during games! OK I am a Clinician and my observations were that her condition appeared to be more advanced than when the public announcement was made,and what the public stance was. It really did appear to be obvious that what was aannounced today had to be done! Now if Pat is still in pretty good shape she realized this was the right decision for the program and for her. Stress is not good in general and in particular when one has Health issues! We will see how active she is. She now can be out of the llimelight as necessary. This disease is not pretty as it advances. I am guessing that this has been the plan that was developed during the season! Trt team evaluations were on going.

Is there really anyone who thought she was going to remain coach beyond the end of this past season??? I have been waiting for the announcement to be made. I think the timing in April long enough after the season was appropriate! This was at the moment the BEST decision given the circumstances.

What she will be able to do will cont to be evaluated. That process will never stop even if/when Pat is no longer in the public eye! Having a "wife" who has ALS I can tell you, these diseases are not fun or easy on anyone close oviousley including Pat! What she is lucky,given the whole thing sucks,is the support system,trt team, and finances she has available! I can go into that much deeper! For most Americans,who do not have all of the resources available to her, it is so much worse! It is really hard on the PT and the caregivers if they are the family and resources are so much more limoted!

I did not read this over,because this touches on my life,but I wanted to share Professional imput and some personal . Ira
 
UConnCat said:
When Geno retires he'll likely walk away as much as a retired coach can.
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Maybe Geno the Restaurateur [spelled correctly for Wonkster] will take over the on-campus concessions. :)
 
magical2 said:
I do know Coach Wooden cont to have an office there,but he really did not play an active roll
regarding the team after he retired in 75! After Dean Smith retired, I think he cont to have an office on the campus. No one is saying it,but Pat did not seem to be really there when I observed her on TV during games! OK I am a Clinician and my observations were that her condition appeared to be more advanced than when the public announcement was made,and what the public stance was. It really did appear to be obvious that what was aannounced today had to be done! Now if Pat is still in pretty good shape she realized this was the right decision for the program and for her. Stress is not good in general and in particular when one has Health issues! We will see how active she is. She now can be out of the llimelight as necessary. This disease is not pretty as it advances. I am guessing that this has been the plan that was developed during the season! Trt team evaluations were on going.
Is there really anyone who thought she was going to remain coach beyond the end of this past season??? I have been waiting for the announcement to be made. I think the timing in April long enough after the season was appropriate! This was at the moment the BEST decision given the circumstances.
What she will be able to do will cont to be evaluated. That process will never stop even if/when Pat is no longer in the public eye! Having a "wife" who has ALS I can tell you, these diseases are not fun or easy on anyone close oviousley including Pat! What she is lucky,given the whole thing sucks,is the support system,trt team, and finances she has available! I can go into that much deeper! For most Americans,who do not have all of the resources available to her, it is so much worse! It is really hard on the PT and the caregivers if they are the family and resources are so much more limoted!
I did not read this over,because this touches on my life,but I wanted to share Professional imput and some personal . Ira
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Ira, with my experience of demetia patients I am right there with everything you said. It was what I was observing, too.

My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your wife in your battle.
 
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Icebear said:
I would note that Pokey Chapman took over capably for Sue Gunter in a situation affected by Sue's health, too.
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Let's just hope that Warlick doesn't go down the same path that Pokey did.
 
It's very strange to think of WCBB without Pat. Very strange.
 
Icebear said:
I would note that Pokey Chapman took over capably for Sue Gunter in a situation affected by Sue's health, too.
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The key difference is that Chatman was only 34 at the time. She was at a point in her career where it made sense for her to be a first-time HC somewhere, be it at LSU or elsewhere.

Also did not hurt to have Augustus on the squad and Fowles lined up. Tennessee is not without talent to be sure, but those were two pretty special players.
 
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