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alexrgct said:
With this now being firmly Holly's team, she MAY have a chance to do things a bit differently from last year. We really don't know everything that was going on behind the scenes or what Holly ended up having to do versus was expected to do preseason, etc.

Having said that, I don't think she's the best HC available (i.e., who would make him/herself available for LV job), and although this direction may make the most immediate sense, it's not a five-year plan by any means. If I'm Tennessee, I have a strategy that includes a national coaching search if and at such time it becomes clear that Holly is not the best long-term fit.
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I don't think this is firmly Holly's team, but certainly more than last year's. No way a better long-term fit would accept the job under the conditions as we now know them. This situation is a perfect fit for Summitt, which she's entitled to after her career.
 
UConnCat said:
I don't think this is firmly Holly's team, but certainly more than last year's. No way a better long-term fit would accept the job under the conditions as we now know them. This situation is a perfect fit for Summitt, which she's entitled to after her career.
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It's a perfect fit for Summitt, but maybe not for the program in the long run. Holly will always be her assistant, has no real head coaching experience, and didn't do a very good job this year. Yes, I understand the circumstances were difficult and unique. But they don't seem to be changing next year. Just the titles have been shuffled around.
 
UConnCat said:
I don't think this is firmly Holly's team, but certainly more than last year's. No way a better long-term fit would accept the job under the conditions as we now know them. This situation is a perfect fit for Summitt, which she's entitled to after her career.
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But that's exactly the problem: by not biting the bullet now, you're making for a smoother transition for Pat, but you're not really quelling any of the speculation that this is some sort of interim solution, or at best a "temp-to-perm" solution.
 
Very interesting. I think this had to happen. You cannot run a recruiting program for a college sport effectively if everyone knows the head coach is not going to be there in a year's time. And you really cannot coach a team by committee as this past year proved. Good luck to Holly, she is going to need it.

If I read the duties/responsibilities correctly, Pat can observe practice and games, can help the coaching staff scout upcoming opponents and can advise them on coaching outside of game situations, but cannot directly coach the players at all nor address them individually or as a team during halftime. The wording is a little vague, but I believe she is not allowed to contact recruits/families outside of written communication except when they are on campus or at a recruiting function near campus. The only contact she is allowed with the individual players/team is in a personal guidance roll and not as a coach.
This all makes sense as the NCAA has strict limits on 'assistant' coaches, and on the number of college employees allowed to make recruiting contacts.

I think the 2013 class will be very interesting to watch. TN is still TN, but will they be able to recruit a strong class with out Pat spearheading the effort. I think as a team they are in need of reenforcements from 2013/2014 classes.
 
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doggydaddy said:
804–129.

That is 294 short. 8-9 more years. Geno can do it if he wants.
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Agreed. also Tara V is 861-200. At 58, she's the same age as Geno. i actually think she has a better chance to stick it out for 10-15 more years if she wants. I hope i'm wrong, but i see Geno with having a lot of other interests and i'm not sure he stays for 10 more years. Still, i think he'd like to be the all time winningest coach as well as the all time NCAA championships for UCONN. he'll get the 2nd in a few years...
 
It has been tweeted that Tyler Summitt will be becoming an assistant coach at Marquette.
 
alexrgct said:
But that's exactly the problem: by not biting the bullet now, you're making for a smoother transition for Pat, but you're not really quelling any of the speculation that this is some sort of interim solution, or at best a "temp-to-perm" solution.
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I agree. Let's be honest, given the awful circumstances, this transition is ideal for one party: Pat Summitt. I'm sure the Univ and Warlick believe she's earned the right to go out on her terms and who's to argue with that. PS will be able to stay engaged in what she loves which should help her overall condition. Neither the Univ nor Warlick were in enviable positions.
 
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ericsandiego said:
No surprise there. i guess they feel the program is better off with Holly as the HC and Pat being involved in any way she can. However, players who commit there will no longer be playing for legendary HC Pat Summitt. they surely will get to rub elbows with her, but if the way the team was run this year is any indication of how Holly will be running the team, they are in a bit of trouble...
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Tennessee was a Top 10 team. Hardly any cause for concern.
 
suzyq said:
I'm a bit surprised that the NCAA doesn't have 100 pages of "guidance" on this. Has it happened before in men'r or women's sports? What was Wooden's title at UCLA post retirement?
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Former Coach:)
 
VAUConnFan said:
Tennessee was a Top 10 team. Hardly any cause for concern.
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They were a top 10 team because they were loaded with talented upperclassmen, many of whom will have graduated. They lost several winnable games to mediocre teams and were rarely competitive with good ones. Oftentimes, they looked out of sync, poorly conditioned, and unsure of what to do if their talent level and/or the Tennessee jersey didn't blow the other team off the floor. Moreover, they haven't had a committment in what seems like forever and have lost a prized committment during that same period. Tennessee has gone from being a top two program for three consecutive decades to being at risk of slipping significantly. I'd say there's cause for concern, and I'm not sure how a career assistant is the best person to manage it.
 
VAMike23 said:
Besides having a shot at the overall wins record, if he sticks around to 2022 Rebecca's oldest daughter will be 18 and ready to join the Huskies :D

That would be a nice capstone; coaching the daughter of the player most closely identified with Championship #1 (even if she walked on).
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Given Geno's close relationship with Rebecca, her job on ESPN, and her position as a UCONN trustee, there has to be recruiting violations in there somewhere. He better stop doing ESPN interviews and having conversations with Rebecca and her daughter. ;)
 
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Icebear said:
It has been tweeted that Tyler Summitt will be becoming an assistant coach at Marquette.
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Is this for real?

My mother's health started to decline some years back, both physically and mentally. She lived in Omaha, I lived in CT. I had the benefit of my older sister also living in Omaha. Despite my mother's and sister's life time strained relationship, to put it mildly, knowing my sister was there to help my mother was the only thing that helped me cope with the guilt I felt not being there for Mom. Sadly, she passed less than one year after she reached the point she couldn't live on her own and went to first an assisted living center then a nursing home.

Tyler, being an only child and away from Pat for a major chunk of the year as an assistant coach, will be difficult for them both. I know Tyler is now of an age where he has to make a living for himself. I am certain Pat will have given him her blessing. But from my own experience, if I had understood the gravity of my mother's condition, I would have temporarily relocated to help both my mother and my sister get through it. While the guilt I feel is less than it used to be in the nearly four years since her passing, it will be something I carry with me for the rest of my life, a regret that I can't shake.

Going to be unimaginably hard for both Tyler and Pat.
 
alexrgct said:
With this now being firmly Holly's team, she MAY have a chance to do things a bit differently from last year. We really don't know everything that was going on behind the scenes or what Holly ended up having to do versus was expected to do preseason, etc.

Having said that, I don't think she's the best HC available (i.e., who would make him/herself available for LV job), and although this direction may make the most immediate sense, it's not a five-year plan by any means. If I'm Tennessee, I have a strategy that includes a national coaching search if and at such time it becomes clear that Holly is not the best long-term fit.
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Ms Warlick may, in fact, turn out to be a poor choice to succeed Coach Summitt. But, when an assistant has been on your sideline 27 years, it would be insulting to go out looking for another coach; The only way such an assistant is not hired is if she flat out refuses the job.
 
sarals24 said:
Although this is not unexpected, I don't know why Tennessee wasn't planning for this all season. I can't believe Warlick is the best person for the job, I understand they want continuity, but it almost seems like they are going to try this approach for a year to see how it works...if I'm a recruit, no way am I getting near that.
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She might not be, but after 27 years as an assitant, she has earned the right to prove she is not the best person for the job.
 
doggydaddy said:
804–129.

That is 294 short. 8-9 more years. Geno can do it if he wants.
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I had a similar reaction to this quote"

It's unlikely anyone will ever come close to matching Summitt's accomplishments in women's basketball, which has seen more parity in the past decade.​
Summitt's career ends with a 1,098-208 record, 16 regular season Southeastern Conference championships and 16 SEC tournament titles. She also led the 1984 Olympic team to a gold medal.​
During her time, Tennessee never failed to reach the NCAA tournament, never received a seed lower than No. 5 and reached 18 Final Fours.​
To quote another great Connecticut coach "It's Doable"
 
Here to just give a hat tip to Pat. She helped make for a great rivalry that fueled passion for chick hoops. Sounds like she's landing on here feet, tho.

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VAUConnFan said:
Tennessee was a Top 10 team. Hardly any cause for concern.
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WAS is the key word. They won't be a top ten team again for a while, and for a lot of LV fans, etc., that is a huge cause for concern.
 
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VAUConnFan said:
She might not be, but after 27 years as an assitant, she has earned the right to prove she is not the best person for the job.
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Although that's an admissable perspective, the opposing viewpoint is that if she hasn't had head coaching opportunities elsewhere, what would make her the best candidate for one of the very top coaching opportunities anywhere? And yes, I'd have the exact same question for Chris Dailey in an analogous scenario. Either something didn't qualify her or she was happier being an assistant. Neither of those possibilities would give me a warm fuzzy.
 
alexrgct said:
They were a top 10 team because they were loaded with talented upperclassmen, many of whom will have graduated. They lost several winnable games to mediocre teams and were rarely competitive with good ones. Oftentimes, they looked out of sync, poorly conditioned, and unsure of what to do if their talent level and/or the Tennessee jersey didn't blow the other team off the floor. Moreover, they haven't had a committment in what seems like forever and have lost a prized committment during that same period. Tennessee has gone from being a top two program for three consecutive decades to being at risk of slipping significantly. I'd say there's cause for concern, and I'm not sure how a career assistant is the best person to manage it.
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Tennesse is only four years removed from their last national championship and their last Final Four appearance. The Vols are not where they once were, but they have not fallen so far as to precipitate a housecleaning. If there were a number of up and coming women's programs knocking on the door, then I would be more inclinded to agree with you. Such is not the case. The only recent party crasher to continue partying has been Baylor.
 
I was going post on the checkerboard something along the lines that it was right decision, better for her to remembered in her prime, etc. but then I read the mean spirited thread there on Diana and figured- the heck with it.

So much for southern graciousness.
 
CL82 said:
I was going post on the checkerboard something along the lines that it was right decision, better for her to remembered in her prime, etc. but then I read the mean spirited thread there on Diana and figured- the heck with it.

So much for southern graciousness.
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Gracious thought on your part, but good call. Pearls before swine.
 
alexrgct said:
Although that's an admissable perspective, the opposing viewpoint is that if she hasn't had head coaching opportunities elsewhere, what would make her the best candidate for one of the very top coaching opportunities anywhere? And yes, I'd have the exact same question for Chris Dailey in an analogous scenario. Either something didn't qualify her or she was happier being an assistant. Neither of those possibilities would give me a warm fuzzy.
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You caught the drift.
 
VAUConnFan said:
Tennesse is only four years removed from their last national championship and their last Final Four appearance. The Vols are not where they once were, but they have not fallen so far as to precipitate a housecleaning. If there were a number of up and coming women's programs knocking on the door, then I would be more inclinded to agree with you. Such is not the case. The only recent party crasher to continue partying has been Baylor.
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I'm not sure what they did 4 years ago has to do with the state of the program today.

Do you know who their returning players and their incoming recruits are? What they bring to the table?

I'd be glad to discuss it, but I don't think this thread is the right place for it.
 
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