Pairwise

[huskymedic]

 

[businesslawyer]

Could someone with more experience than I with Pairwise and NCAA placement confirm that, as I read this, if we win the tournament today and tomorrow we'd be the highest seed in Allentown, a drivable location for those who want to go?

 

[Patman]

Could someone with more experience than I with Pairwise and NCAA placement confirm that, as I read this, if we win the tournament today and tomorrow we'd be the highest seed in Allentown, a drivable location for those who want to go?

I would read that, yes. I'd still wait until Sunday to buy tickets.

I'd say if that happened 99% it would be Allentown. I might do that regional coming from dc but I'm still a lowell main (yeah I know we are out) and want to spend hotels and stuff on a wisconsin trip to coincide with broomball nationals. I'd have to look at the dates that one.

 

[Patman]

Full breaks apology. I would not assume those regionals on the basis that you don't know how the other schools will flop the rpi/pairwise

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

If we win tonight, there is an actual possibility of this being our Regional:

1. UConn
2. Minnesota
3. Denver
4. Penn St

Could you imagine if that actually happens? Being in a Regional against all three of our elite Transfer Portal deserters? Matthew Wood (Minnesota), Samu Salminen (Denver), and Arsenii Sergeev (Penn St). Not that our guys need it, but I think there would be a little extra motivation after how last year went down inside the team. I would think a first round matchup against Sergeev would make for a very interesting clash--I'd think that would be an advantage for our guys being very familiar with Arsenii's vulnerabilities.

 

[Patman]

I'll sketch through the possibilities after these games and I'm going to pray the AHA title game doesn't matter because I don't want to work out 16 scenarios

 

[Vowelguy]

my current prediction:

Manchr: BC || Prov || Denv || HCross/Bentley
Toledo: MichSt || BU || OhioSt || Cornell/Clrksn/Dart
Allen: Maine || UConn || PennSt || Quinn
Fargo: Minn || WMU || UMass || MinnSt

 

[Patman]

I'm running through most of the possibilities...

the first 5 are UConn versus Penn State in Allentown... though I'm more convinced the committee will send Maine out to Fargo and WMU to Allentown but that's my bias

the real issue is straight seeding is almost always UConn versus UMass and that needs to be swapped out

 

[Patman]

This is my not so worked out scenarios... yes I'm sending Maine to Fargo a lot, that doesn't affect UConn's seeding... UMass does.

Scenario #1 CRN/HC/MSU/WMU

Initial
Manch  1BC -8PC-9DU-23HC
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-12QU-13PSU
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK

Swap
Manch  1BC -8PC-9DU-23HC
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12QU-13PSU
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Reason: 3 HEA teams in Fargo, moves MN to Fargo (attendance)

Scenario #2 CLK/HC/MSU/WMU

Initial
Manch  1BC -8PC-9DU-23HC
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-13PSU-12QU
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK

Swap
Manch  1BC -8PC-9DU-23HC
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12QU-13PSU
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Reason: 3 HEA teams in Fargo, moves MN to Fargo (attendance)
        H2H Big10 Match

Scenario #3 CRN/HC/OSU/WMU

Manch   1BC-8PC-9OSU-22HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10DU-19CKN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-12QU-13PSU


Swap
Manch  1BC -8PC-9OSU-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10DU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12QU-13PSU

Reason: 3 HEA teams in Fargo, moves MN to Fargo (attendance)

Scenario #4 CKN/HC/OSU/WMU

Manch   1BC-8PC-9OSU-22HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10DU-19CKN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-12PSU-13QU


Swap
Manch  1BC -8PC-9OSU-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10DU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12PSU-13QU

Reason: 3 HEA teams in Fargo, moves MN to Fargo (attendance)
        H2H Big10 Match


Scenario #5 CRN/HC/MSU/DU

Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4UMN-5WMU-12PSU-13QU

Swap
Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  4UMN-5WMU-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  3UME-6UCN-12PSU-13QU

Scenario #6 CKN/HC/MSU/DU

Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-19CKN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4UMN-5WMU-12PSU-13QU

Swap
Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-19CKN
Fargo  4UMN-5WMU-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  3UME-6UCN-12PSU-13QU

Scenario #7 CRN/HC/OSU/DU

Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-12QU-13PSU

Swap
Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12QU-13PSU

Scenario #8 CKN/HC/OSU/DU

Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-18CKN
Fargo  3UME-6UCN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-5UMN-12PSU-13QU

Swap
Manch   1BC-8DU-9PC-23HC
Toledo 2MSU-7BU-10OSU-17CRN
Fargo  3UME-5UMN-11UMA-14MNK
Allen  4WMU-6UCN-12PSU-13QU

Most of the scenarios are UConn versus Penn State OR UConn versus Quinnipiac in Allentown. The RPI between QU and PSU is down to a hair. EVERY natural scenario has UConn versus UMass as the 6 vs 11 but since they're HEA opponents and since this can be resolved it will be.

 

[mac2351]

The NCAA field is set (seeding is tbd):

BC
Michigan State
Maine
Western Michigan
Minnesota
UConn
BU
Providence
Denver
Ohio State
UMass
Penn State
Quinnipiac
Minnesota State
ECAC tournament winner (Cornell or Clarkson)
Atlantic tournament winner (Holy Cross or Bentley)

 

[mac2351]

From what I can come up with the Clarkson-Cornell game will determine which program UConn plays

Cornell win: UConn v Quinnipiac

Clarkson win: UConn v Penn State

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Under no circumstance will Maine get sent to Fargo. The procedure they follow is first placing 1 seeds in the closest regions, before filling in the next 12 spots. BC to Manchester, MSU to Toledo, Maine to PA, WMU/MN to Fargo. They won't flip Maine anywhere since there's no intraconference matchup risk and ticket sales in Fargo and Allentown will be fine regardless.

Both them and UConn are locked into playing in Allentown absent the committee doing something completely unprecedented.

 

[Patman]

Under no circumstance will Maine get sent to Fargo. The procedure they follow is first placing 1 seeds in the closest regions, before filling in the next 12 spots. BC to Manchester, MSU to Toledo, Maine to PA, WMU/MN to Fargo. They won't flip Maine anywhere since there's no intraconference matchup risk and ticket sales in Fargo and Allentown will be fine regardless.

Both them and UConn are locked into playing in Allentown absent the committee doing something completely unprecedented.

I figured at that point flight rules might apply and WMU is still closeish. That was my figuring... so it goes.

 

[Vowelguy]

This is dumb. OF COURSE Ohiost is gonna end up in Toledo. And why would they not swap MinnSt to Fargo and Q to Allentown?

I stand by my post above.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Right or wrong, the committee has moved away from moving teams for flights and/or attendance. It's bracket integrity that rules the roost.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

This is dumb. OF COURSE Ohiost is gonna end up in Toledo. And why would they not swap MinnSt to Fargo and Q to Allentown?

I stand by my post above.

Bracket integrity.

The real problem this year is there's really three "western" regionals and only one in New England/NY.

Also not sure what the anger from UConn's side is on this, they'll get placed relatively close to home. Yeah PSU is the host but that's a rule thing. I'd rather get PSU in Allentown than Denver and BC in Manchester.

My guys are the ones who'll have to go through OSU and MSU in Toledo to get out of there. It is what it is, regionals need to go to home sites.

 

[huskymedic]

From what I can come up with the Clarkson-Cornell game will determine which program UConn plays

Cornell win: UConn v Quinnipiac

Clarkson win: UConn v Penn State

 

[huskymedic]

 

[huskymedic]

No real change to pairings but another piece of the puzzle.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Not that it matters all that much but if the current Pairwise has Penn St at 12 and Quinnipiac at 13, why are they flipped on that projection?

 

[huskymedic]

Not that it matters all that much but if the current Pairwise has Penn St at 12 and Quinnipiac at 13, why are they flipped on that projection?

Timing?

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Fair enough. Maybe the website I was lookimg at (and refreshed right before the screenshot) wasn't fully updated.