PAC dysfunction

[FfldCntyFan]

This should not have happened until 12:00 AM on August 2nd.

Why is that? Just because a school postpones when it joins a new conference doesn't mean it's former conference needs to extend it's departure date.

 

[Kolumbo]

 

[Ldandy]

What happened with The PAC 12 will be a great case study for how greed, hubris, and incompetent management can destroy something longstanding and prominent. Its amazing how the Franken 12 will potentially outlive both the PAC 12 and ACC, when both appeared poised to outlive them.

 

[pick6s]

What happened with The PAC 12 will be a great case study for how greed, hubris, and incompetent management can destroy something longstanding and prominent. Its amazing how the Franken 12 will potentially outlive both the PAC 12 and ACC, when both appeared poised to outlive them.

The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.

 

[Rufus]

Why is that? Just because a school postpones when it joins a new conference doesn't mean it's former conference needs to extend it's departure date.

The schools didn't postpone anything. The current PAC-12 media rights contract/grant of rights runs until midnight August 2nd. That is the termination of the contract/termination of the conference as we know it.

 

[CTFAN4LIFE]

The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.

The meek shall inherit the earth?

 

[Ldandy]

The Big 12’s ironic advantage over the ACC and PAC-12 is that once Texas and OU announced they were leaving, the Big 12 had no members attractive enough for the Big 2 to poach, which provided stability. Everyone knew the PAC-12 and ACC would get raided in a major way, sooner or later. Now, the Pac-12 is dead and the ACC may or may not be dead soon too, depending on how the next round of realignment plays out.

You're not wrong. This is part of the hubris that I was writing about in my previous post. The leadership in both The Pac 12 and ACC saw/see themselves as too big to fail. They falsely believed/believe that they're the ones calling shots, not the little old Big 12. Meanwhile The Big 12 was shoring up its own membership issues, making themselves more attractive to TV, and offering a landing spot for wayward programs who had/will have the rug pulled out from under them.

JMO but the PAC could have survived the last round of realignment by making a move on the Big 12 when the tectonic plates start shifting around Texlhoma's move to The SEC. The PAC could have gone hard after Kansas, OK State, Iowa State, and TT. If USC and UCLA still moved on to The Big 10, they could have grabbed a SDSU and Houston from The AAC. This would have mortally wounded the Big 12, making The PAC's Overall Product a 2-time zone offering instead of one. It would have siphoned available money away from the Big 12's Deal and likely pulled more in for them. Even without USC and UCLA, the conference could have commanded ACC level money or more if the appearance of holding strong was in place. I'm not sure the B1G was sold on taking UO and UW in the first place, but they just said, "might as well since they're there for the taking." If it was more complicated than that, they probably would have passed.

 

[huskymedic]

 

[Hoophound]

That’s sad. Two more screwed fan bases.

 

[Ldandy]

This is a pretty accurate depiction of the state of things. Two teams consoling each other because they know that they're facing a very uncertain future. Four teams resigned to their fate. Not necessarily happy about it but understanding that things could be much worse. Four teams celebrating their good fortune. Finally, two teams mostly indifferent to the events transpiring. They are demonstrating that for them academics will remain first in conference realignment.

 

[Kolumbo]

This is a pretty accurate depiction of the state of things. Two teams consoling each other because they know that they're facing a very uncertain future. Four teams resigned to their fate. Not necessarily happy about it but understanding that things could be much worse. Four teams celebrating their good fortune. Finally, two teams mostly indifferent to the events transpiring. They are demonstrating that for them academics will remain first in conference realignment.

Colorado and ASU don't even have a brewski in their paws/hooves. It would seem to me they'd be doing keg stands or something even if they are not thrilled with the Big 12. Oregon State might be partaking of a marijuana device.

 

[Exit 4]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1807864673360138432

 

[Rufus]

https://twitter.com/RedditCFB/status/1807864673360138432

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a Merry Christmas!

 

[Rufus]

Pac-12 Network signs off for final time

After nearly 12 years, the Pac-12 Network signed off Sunday night for the final time as the conference prepares for big changes.

awfulannouncing.com

 

[Rufus]

Last 2 Pac-12 teams determined to fight on, promise a bright future

The Pac-12 may be down to the Pac-2, but that doesn't mean the league or its remaining members — Oregon State and Washington State — aren't gearing up for football.

www.newsday.com

 

[Zissou]

I still think the PAC survives. They have to wait on exit fee deadlines expiring, then they expand in the west. They have a scheduling deal already to bridge the gap.

And… I still think they would benefit from an east coast division of affiliate football members.

Faced with extinction, the PAC-2 are now playing a long game.

 

[KryHavok]

Bit of positive news for the PAC2, they get to keep their bowl affiliations for a bit longer:
Oregon St., Wazzu keep Pac-12 bowl agreements

 

[WestCoastHusky]

Canzano: Overheard at the Pac-12's Las Vegas cocktail party...

Thoughts on the Pac-12 Football Media Day

www.johncanzano.com

 

[Rufus]

MSN

How does the money work? I asked. The conference that participates in the game retains the revenue. For example, the Big 12 will get the money for participation by Arizona, ASU, Utah, and Colorado. The ACC will get the bowl revenue if Stanford and Cal make the games. The Big Ten gets paid if USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington participate. The Pac-12 keeps the bowl revenue for the Beavers and Cougars.

Pac-12 bowl tie-in, Big Ten and ACC revenue. It's weird, but then again, that's what college football normally is.

 

[Rufus]

Will the Mountain West and Pac-12 leftovers join forces?

Will the Mountain West and Pac-12 leftovers join forces?

www.sltrib.com