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I've said from the beginning this was an inside job. Really sent Kliavkoff back to ask for 50 million? Pffft. Buying time till the implosion came.

Every Pac 12 school but Oregon State and Washington State ended up in decent shape.
 
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Every Pac 12 school but Oregon State and Washington State ended up in decent shape.
So what does that mean? That they just didn't want to stay together and would rather go make the same money playing other schools? Only USC and UCLA are making more money now. Cal and Stanford are making significantly less.

Would they have not ALL been in decent shape if they took the 30 million ESPN offered?
 
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So what does that mean? That they just didn't want to stay together and would rather go make the same money playing other schools? Only USC and UCLA are making more money now. Cal and Stanford are making significantly less.

Would they have not ALL been in decent shape if they took the 30 million ESPN offered?


Yes, but someone torpedoed the ESPN offer, whether out of naivety or malice. Colorado took the money and Texas recruiting, and the house of cards came tumbling down. I don’t think ASU or Cal would have left if others hadn’t left first.
 

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So what does that mean? That they just didn't want to stay together and would rather go make the same money playing other schools? Only USC and UCLA are making more money now. Cal and Stanford are making significantly less.

Would they have not ALL been in decent shape if they took the 30 million ESPN offered?

ESPN is desperate, and is acting crazy. We may look back on this period and realize in hindsight that ESPN was inducing schools to sign on in a desperate attempt to boost its value before Disney sells it. The cable companies are not backing down to ESPN anymore, and ESPN's revenue model is about to collapse. ESPN is going to have a hard time honoring all these long-term deals when the cable bundles go a la carte.
 
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Yes, but someone torpedoed the ESPN offer, whether out of naivety or malice. Colorado took the money and Texas recruiting, and the house of cards came tumbling down. I don’t think ASU or Cal would have left if others hadn’t left first.
The whole thing collapsed because UO and UW set the precedent of taking less over a long period to join a conference. SMU has now agreed to take nothing. The next teams may have to agree to pay, lol.
 
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ESPN is desperate, and is acting crazy. We may look back on this period and realize in hindsight that ESPN was inducing schools to sign on in a desperate attempt to boost its value before Disney sells it. The cable companies are not backing down to ESPN anymore, and ESPN's revenue model is about to collapse. ESPN is going to have a hard time honoring all these long-term deals when the cable bundles go a la carte.

Don't know what this has to do with the fact that if the 10 PAC schools wanted to stay together, they had a worthwhile offer to stay together.

Sure ESPN may be dying, but until they do they are paying those schools in the ACC and Big12 that were in the PAC and they offered to pay them the same to stay together.
 
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ESPN is desperate, and is acting crazy. We may look back on this period and realize in hindsight that ESPN was inducing schools to sign on in a desperate attempt to boost its value before Disney sells it. The cable companies are not backing down to ESPN anymore, and ESPN's revenue model is about to collapse. ESPN is going to have a hard time honoring all these long-term deals when the cable bundles go a la carte.
Spectrum and Disney are in a fight. Apparently in NY state, there is no more ESPN on Spectrum cable. Things are really coming together for ESPN, but not in a good way.
 
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The whole thing collapsed because UO and UW set the precedent of taking less over a long period to join a conference. SMU has now agreed to take nothing. The next teams may have to agree to pay, lol.
But that's not a precedent. Many teams have done that throughout the years. Penn St, Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska. Im pretty sure Missouri did the same with the ACC
 

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Spectrum and Disney are in a fight. Apparently in NY state, there is no more ESPN on Spectrum cable. Things are really coming together for ESPN, but not in a good way.

These didn’t used to be fights. ESPN used to just kick their asses. It looks like those days are over.
 
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But that's not a precedent. Many teams have done that throughout the years. Penn St, Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska. Im pretty sure Missouri did the same with the ACC
But they did so for the lifetime of the contract. Not a phasing in like in the past.
 
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But they did so for the lifetime of the contract. Not a phasing in like in the past.
Just to be clear though. For schools like Penn State and Rutgers it was 7 years. So... this is 9 years, apparently
 

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