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Rico444 said:
I'm not so big on calorie counting, because it doesn't tell you how you got there. If you eat 3500 calories but it's all food that's high in saturated fats and sugar/refined carbs, then your body is going to process that much differently than if you're eating whole grains, lowfat dairy, nuts, and lean meats. Since I'm trying to put on some muscle, I obviously want to focus on the latter group there.
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Completely 100% agree. There are also behavioral benefits from eating healthier while foods (mainly satieting appetite and reducing chances of over-eating) but don’t tell @JMick that he will try to get you on a Pop-Tart diet

Edit lol looks like he already started.

Calorie counting has a purpose, which is to make sure you're not overeating or even undereating, but I figure as long as I stick to the healthy types of foods and limit my portions, I'm not going to have to worry much about calorie counting.
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Yeah I don’t really count closely anymore. I know a can of beans is about 400. I know some oatmeal and protein powder is about 300. I know the lentils/quinoa I make is about 450 per serving. I know my cereal and milk is about 400. Just read the labels a couple times and round up, have meals memorized
 
Rico444 said:
What are you eating at McDonald's? How often are you eating during the day? Are you starving yourself to stay under a calorie count?

I'm tracking what I eat and have a general idea of how many calories everything I eat is; I just don't write down every meal I eat and add up all the calories. As long as each meal I eat isn't a ton of calories, is made up of high protein/fiber/whole grains, and is low in saturated fats and processed carbs, I know I'm going to lose weight and put on muscle.
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I haven't been hungry yet. 25lbs in 60 days. No working out.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Completely 100% agree. There are also behavioral benefits from eating healthier while foods (mainly satieting appetite and reducing chances of over-eating) but don’t tell @JMick that he will try to get you on a Pop-Tart diet

Edit lol looks like he already started.


Yeah I don’t really count closely anymore. I know a can of beans is about 400. I know some oatmeal and protein powder is about 300. I know the lentils/quinoa I make is about 450 per serving. I know my cereal and milk is about 400. Just read the labels a couple times and round up, have meals memorized
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I'll PM you my .CSV file later with weight lost, food consumed and calories
 
JMick said:
I haven't been hungry yet. 25lbs in 60 days. No working out.
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I'm glad that's working for you, but you didn't answer my questions.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
Congrats, you'll be skinny fat in no time.
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Im not working out until I've lost another 15lbs. Then I'll be working out again. My joints are a mess. I want to get the weight off first to reduce stress
 
Rico444 said:
I would think that you would want to rest the muscle group you just worked, so not work your chest two workouts in a row. I always mixed up my workouts to avoid this, was I doing it wrong?
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I thought the exercises you listed are done each workout for your entire body.
And you do this workout 3 days a week. Like Mon- Wed - Fri.
Or am I mistaken?
What is your high intensity interval training? Do that on Tue - Thurs?
 
JMick said:
Im not working out until I've lost another 15lbs. Then I'll be working out again. My joints are a mess. I want to get the weight off first to reduce stress
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Bruh come on you’re like 25, you’d need to be chronically morbidly obese for your joints to be suffering from your own body weight. If your joints are bothering you, it’s probably all the inflammation caused by your awful diet.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Bruh come on you’re like 25, you’d need to be chronically morbidly obese for your joints to be suffering from your own body weight. If your joints are bothering you, it’s probably all the inflammation caused by your awful diet.
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No they're sports injuries
 
JMick said:
IMF from 9PM to 12PM every day. Then I eat basically whatever I want staying under 1900 calories.
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Not sure what imf means. But I know that I could easily put back 1900 calories in one sitting at McDonald's lol
 
JMick said:
No they're sports injuries
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Regardless, again, your body weight likely has a negligible effect on your joints. Unless you’re like 100+ lbs overweight.

And I imagine you won’t even be doing super explosive or high-impact movements within your workouts
 
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HuskyBandDad said:
I thought the exercises you listed are done each workout for your entire body.
And you do this workout 3 days a week. Like Mon- Wed - Fri.
Or am I mistaken?
What is your high intensity interval training? Do that on Tue - Thurs?
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Correct. I lift Monday - Wednesday - Saturday and do HIIT on Tuesdays and either Thursday or Sunday depending on how the week is looking.

EDIT: And yes, I do that same workout each time I lift, whole body.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
Congrats, you'll be skinny fat in no time.
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You should see me right now.

Ive dropped 31 lbs in 38 days but its always the gut that is the last to go (much to my chagrin) so now I look like one of those African Child starvation posters with a distended belly. I half expect Sally Struthers to start narrating my walk to the car in the morning.

My wife has me doing some Core stuff but man..... this sucks.
 
August_West said:
You should see me right now.

Ive dropped 31 lbs in 38 days but its always the gut that is the last to go (much to my chagrin) so now I look like one of those African Child starvation posters with a distended belly. I half expect Sally Struthers to start narrating my walk to the car in the morning.

My wife has me doing some Core stuff but man..... this sucks.
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You're doing it. That's the important thing.
 
Rocktheworld said:
And I imagine you won’t even be doing super explosive movements within your workouts
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The only explosive thing on Jmick is diarrhea of the mouth .


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Rico444 said:
Not sure what imf means. But I know that I could easily put back 1900 calories in one sitting at McDonald's lol
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IMF is intermittent fasting.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Regardless, again, your body weight likely has a negligible effect on your joints. Unless you’re like 100+ lbs overweight.

And I imagine you won’t even be doing super explosive or high-impact movements within your workouts
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I've had multiple shoulder reconstructions, wrist surgery, tennis elbow, pulled hip flexors, bad hamstrings, etc. My rotator cuff in my pitching arm is shot too. My body is beat up. It's part of the reason I got fat in the first place. I was used to consuming 3000-4000 calories/day and when I wasn't playing sports anymore my appetite didn't really change.
 
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Rico444 said:
Correct. I lift Monday - Wednesday - Saturday and do HIIT on Tuesdays and either Thursday or Sunday depending on how the week is looking.

EDIT: And yes, I do that same workout each time I lift, whole body.
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That is a good schedule.
I would do the exercises as I listed previously.
I would do chest first then shoulders, back, arms, legs, abs. In that order. Keeping the exercises together for each muscle group.
 
JMick said:
I've had multiple shoulder reconstructions, wrist surgery, tennis elbow, pulled hip flexors, bad hamstrings, etc. My rotator cuff in my pitching arm is shot too. My body is beat up. It's part of the reason I got fat in the first place. I was used to consuming 3000-4000 calories/day and when I wasn't playing sports anymore my appetite didn't really change.
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Okay that’s fine but again your weight shouldn’t be any limiter on your return to exercise. There are other things you should be doing to specifically improve your joint discomfort.

I really want to see you lift while eating nothing but McDonalds and see what happens.
 
JMick said:
IMF is intermittent fasting.
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Interesting. That wouldn't work for me since I would be absolutely starving if I had to wait until 12 to eat. If it's working for you though that's all that really matters.
 
Rico444 said:
Interesting. That wouldn't work for me since I would be absolutely starving if I had to wait until 12 to eat. If it's working for you though that's all that really matters.
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You can break through that. Your enteral nervous system works like other nervous system networks and learns just like they do as well. Your stomach “learns” to expect food at specific times, sends specific hormones up to the brain, the brain interprets them, and you subjectively feel a sensation of hunger.

But you can break that learning. I first tried IMF years ago and it is very powerful. It can actually be dangerous because there are some days where I end up not feeling hungry at all until like 5pm. There was a point where my body never expected food and I would almost never feel hungry.
 
HuskyBandDad said:
That is a good schedule.
I would do the exercises as I listed previously.
I would do chest first then shoulders, back, arms, legs, abs. In that order. Keeping the exercises together for each muscle group.
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That might affect how much weight I'm using, since I need at least a few minutes rest after working a specific muscle group before I'm able to work that same muscle again. Like at the end of my squats now I'm almost not able to finish due to the muscles being tired. If I do leg extensions and curls right before the squats, I don't think I'll be able to complete 3 sets.
 
Rocktheworld said:
Okay that’s fine but again your weight shouldn’t be any limiter on your return to exercise. There are other things you should be doing to specifically improve your joint discomfort.

I really want to see you lift while eating nothing but McDonalds and see what happens.
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I'd probably just cut out the buns and be fine. A lot of athletes eat tons of fast food during training
 
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Rico444 said:
That might affect how much weight I'm using, since I need at least a few minutes rest after working a specific muscle group before I'm able to work that same muscle again. Like at the end of my squats now I'm almost not able to finish due to the muscles being tired. If I do leg extensions and curls right before the squats, I don't think I'll be able to complete 3 sets.
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Try to keep 60-90 second rest between sets.
Drop a little weight if needed or keep same weight doing less reps.
Try pyramid with your bench press, shoulder press.
Do 10 reps. Add weight do 8 reps. Add more weight do 6 reps.
Do 4th set with same weight for 8-10 reps.
Reps can be more effective then weight.
Change up routine every week.
 
Rico444 said:
That might affect how much weight I'm using, since I need at least a few minutes rest after working a specific muscle group before I'm able to work that same muscle again. Like at the end of my squats now I'm almost not able to finish due to the muscles being tired. If I do leg extensions and curls right before the squats, I don't think I'll be able to complete 3 sets.
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Does the gym you go to have personal trainers?
Sign up for one or two sessions with trainer. They can be very helpful
 
HuskyBandDad said:
Does the gym you go to have personal trainers?
Sign up for one or two sessions with trainer. They can be very helpful
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I just go to Planet Fitness. They have trainers but I'm not sure how good they are.
 
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