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Think I've only seen himplay once. Know he's very young but didn't strike me as someone who will be a legitimate threat.

What do you see in his game that you like?

I think the serve is going to get even stronger over the next couple of years if he trains the way someone his age should. It's already quite fast for someone his size.
 
I just don't see it with him or really for anyone who is on the scene now. As long as Djokovic, Nadal, and De Potro are healthy and Fed is still playing I don't see anyone winning anything for several years. Dominic Thiem seems like the only one really capable of challenging.

In general, I think sometime around 2020 we'll start to see a transitional period. Thiem will definitely have his chance to win a few majors at that point, Anderson would too if he were several years younger. Longer term my sights are set on Tsitsipas (if he can keep his cool) and perhaps Shapovalov.
 
Someone mentioned McEnroe? Now that's tennis I'd watch. Sport has become boring for me since those days.

I'd love the see a tournament of champions with players having to play with a wood racquet.
 
Someone mentioned McEnroe? Now that's tennis I'd watch. Sport has become boring for me since those days.
I miss those days too, tennis was fun to watch then. McEnroe, Borg, Connors, Edberg, Llendl, Roscoe Tanner, Mats Wilander, Vitas Geruliatus were all fun to watch. Also miss Bud Collins, Donald Dell and Barry Mackay who teamed together on PBS to broadcast all the summer satellite tournaments, every week, in the US that led up to the Open.
 
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I did 3 courts for 2016 US Open. I was called to do a couple for this year's tournament but had to turn down because schedule was too packed
 
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Bracket for 1966 national indoor championships

Obviously Billie Jean king was the winner
 

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In an individual sport like Tennis or Golf, the effect is enhanced. I loved McEnroe screaming at the referees, challenging them to do better (and he was mostly right). Boris Becker was fun. Agassi was fun. Connors was obnoxious. Borg was perfectly cast as the stoic alternative to McEnroe.

McEnroe was rarely right when he challenged line calls.
 
Don't remember the match but how did Nishikori beat Djokovic a few years ago in the US Open semifinals? He doesn't even look like he belongs on the same court as him.
 
All 4 semifinals were incredibly disappointing and noncompetitive.
 
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All 4 semifinals were incredibly disappointing and noncompetitive.
Both finals should be really good. Djoker Del Potro has a chance to be epic, they are both on their games.
 


he's really struggled in the singles department which has been disappointing but good for Jack Sock. And Mike Bryan is an absolute animal on the doubles circuit.
 
Also miss Bud Collins, Donald Dell and Barry Mackay who teamed together on PBS to broadcast all the summer satellite tournaments, every week, in the US that led up to the Open.

Monday Night Tennis! There were a bunch of good doubles teams back then, too. I can't stand Chris Fowler on tennis.
 
he's really struggled in the singles department which has been disappointing but good for Jack Sock.

That guy needs to put on some big-boy shorts and quit being such a p---y.
 
Monday Night Tennis! There were a bunch of good doubles teams back then, too. I can't stand Chris Fowler on tennis.
wait really? I think him and McEnroe are incredible together. What is it you don't like about him?
 
Monday Night Tennis! There were a bunch of good doubles teams back then, too. I can't stand Chris Fowler on tennis.

Yes, there were. The doubles team that I remember best was Eddie Dibbs and Harold Solomon. Bud Collins used to refer to them as "The Bagel Twins". Most of those satellite tournaments were on Har Tru back then, except for Newport which was on grass and a couple high profile ones were on Deco Turf 2.
 
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Yes, there were. The doubles team that I remember best was Eddie Dibbs and Harold Solomon.

The team I remember winning a bunch of times was Raul Ramirez and Brian Gottfried. Those guys and Bob Hewitt and Frew McMillen. The guy that had a 2-handed backhand and forehand.
 
The team I remember winning a bunch of times was Raul Ramirez and Brian Gottfried. Those guys and Bob Hewitt and Frew McMillen. The guy that had a 2-handed backhand and forehand.
Lol. Yes, remember them well. Gottfried was a great singles player as well, and IIRC many of his matches against Bjorn Borg were not at all one sided. I will never forget watching Gottfried destroy Borg 6-1 6-1 on an outdoor hard court during the late 70's. Also remember them playing a titanic 5 setter at the Open where Gottfried won the first two sets and Borg came back and won the next three. Enjoyed watching those two play because their styles were so different.
 
I miss those days too, tennis was fun to watch then. McEnroe, Borg, Connors, Edberg, Llendl, Roscoe Tanner, Mats Wilander, Vitas Geruliatus were all fun to watch. Also miss Bud Collins, Donald Dell and Barry Mackay who teamed together on PBS to broadcast all the summer satellite tournaments, every week, in the US that led up to the Open.

Lendl, Edberg and Wilander were great players no doubt, but really not all that exciting to watch.

Now, throw in Ilie Nastase and you got something.

Osaka killing her interview, btw... very classy and smart how she's handling it.
 
I feel really bad for Osaka. She deserves the win without the controversy. Shame that an ump tainted the final.
The ump didn't taint the final, Serina Williams did. I thought her on court meltdowns in 2009 and 2011 were behind her, but I was wrong. In baseball if you argue with the ump and berate them, you're gone in 2 seconds. Shut up and play the game. A 36 year old grand champion of the game should have showed more class, especially toward her opponent who clearly out played her.
 
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The ump didn't taint the final, Serina Williams did. I thought her on court meltdowns in 2009 and 2011 were behind her, but I was wrong. In baseball if you argue with the ump and berate them, you're gone in 2 seconds. Shut up and play the game. A 36 year old grand champion of the game should have showed more class, especially toward her opponent who clearly out played her.

Whatever. The ump pulled some garbage out of his behind (that never gets called) at a
Crucial point in the match. I guess Serena was supposed to bite her tongue about it.
It was a stupid call. He deserved what he got. Some would’ve done far worse than what Serena did. Osaka will live.
 
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Whatever. The ump pulled some garbage out of his behind that never gets called at a
Crucial point in the match. I guess Serena was supposed to bite her tongue about it.
It was a stupid call. He deserved what he got. Some would’ve done far worse than what Serena did. Osaka will live.
It wasn't a crucial point in the match, she was losing badly, already had dropped the first set 6-2, and was struggling in the 2nd. So her coach starts giving her signals. What umpire is not going to give a first warning in that case? But Serina wouldn't quit, a smashed racket, a second warning and a one point penalty. Then 5 minutes of berating the ump for the docked point, abuse of the chair, a one game penalty.
Serina was an 18 wheeler out of control, even bumped Osaka as Osaka went to shake the Umps hand at the end of the match. But Whatever.
 
It wasn't a crucial point in the match, she was losing badly, already had dropped the first set 6-2, and was struggling in the 2nd. So her coach starts giving her signals. What umpire is not going to give a first warning in that case? But Serina wouldn't quit, a smashed racket, a second warning and a one point penalty. Then 5 minutes of berating the ump for the docked point, abuse of the chair, a one game penalty.
Serina was an 18 wheeler out of control, even bumped Osaka as Osaka went to shake the Umps hand at the end of the match. But Whatever.

It was crucial for Williams. Has that kinda call been called before and was Serena even looking at the coach? It was a horrible call. Osaka was better and deserved to win regardless but it was a bad call.
 
It was crucial for Williams. Has that kinda call been called before and was Serena even looking at the coach? It was a horrible call. Osaka was better and deserved to win regardless but it was a bad call.
I wouldn't call it a "horrible call" but will say he should have let it slide. He didn't though. Refs and Umps make bad calls all the time, but you can't argue with them, if you do you're gone. You suck it up and keep playing.
 
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