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OT: URI head coaching search

Storrs South said:
Yes, but also the AD has been put in a pretty bad spot.

You can bring in a coach with a history of success (Becker, Dooley), but no matter what happens we know the recruiting class and potentially current guys on the roster are leaving if Cox isn't hired.

That's going to make the job more difficult for the incoming coach and make for a long rebuild.

While losing Hurley hurts URI pretty bad, there is the possibility that Cox can keep the momentum akin to how Ollie kept the ship afloat for UConn during the ban year and winning a National Championship the year thereafter. I bet a lot of guys like Napier and Boatright stayed at UConn because Ollie (who helped recruit those players and was already on the bench) was hired as opposed to an outsider.

The Kevin Ollie saga actually says if anything URI should hire Cox, win a natty, then just fire him right after the parade (kidding on the last part).

The AD has a chance to keep building off of what Hurley created promoting Cox or by hiring a new coach means he wants a full teardown and/or means doesn't believe Cox has any long term sustainability for the program and would only be a 1-2 year flurry of whatever he could produce with what is a relatively talented lineup for the A-10.
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Tennessee football just hired like their 12th choice to be HC.

I think teams can figure it out if one guys doesn't work out.
 
Zionn said:
As a recruiter, this would be ass backward. Where is your contingency plan if there is a decline?
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"... and then you end up with squid pie,
which was a favorite of St Augustine, by the way.
So that's why I believe that I'd be as good
a basketball coach as I was a football coach."​

Ironically enough, I agree with him
 
TopDogs said:
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This is almost laughable. Who can believe this Kayata guy has any credible sources? If he's right, as my mother used to say, "this is unbelievable."

Who, in their right mind, would not lock up the preferred candidate before advising the others that another candidate has been chosen?

What if, after calling the ones not chosen, the preferred candidate says "sorry, changed my mind, want more money, want more improvements to the facilities, etc.?"

What does the AD then say when he goes back to the rejected candidates? "Only kidding, you're the guy we wanted all along, but we wanted to see how you handle adversity because as you can now see by the way we conducted this search there's lots more adversity on the way."
 
Zionn said:
As a recruiter, this would be ass backward. Where is your contingency plan if there is a decline? Makes me think Cox got the nod.
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I agree with you
Your duty is to replace the position the rest are curtesy calls.
They can be made within minutes.
 
Zionn said:
As a recruiter, this would be ass backward. Where is your contingency plan if there is a decline? Makes me think Cox got the nod.
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I think he’ll get the job, but I also think the TV goes doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

The first guy to know who got the job is the guy who got the job.

The others find out after the lawyers have shaken hands.
 
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Deadrody said:
Not that it really matters, but didn't UConn recently prove the foolishness of hiring someone that had never been a head coach for a major D1 job ? URI can't possibly be silly enough to do the same thing, can they ?
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They'd be dead Rhody!
 
Fishy said:
I think he’ll get the job, but I also think the TV goes doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

The first guy to know who got the job is the guy who got the job.

The others find out after the lawyers have shaken hands.
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Maybe. It is not uncommon practice if you 'know' the person you are hiring will accept to make the bad calls first, then you have the good call at the end. In this case you've discussed and/or buttoned down the economics and other major terms or are 99% confident that it can be done. If not then 1000% first call is to negotiate with first pick.

Regardless I doubt there's often a signed contract (lawyers) before informing the runners up - and sometimes the public. Its a handshake deal at that point and that's why stuff like Josh McDaniels and Billy Donovan (Magic) happen.
 
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Scrutiner said:
This is almost laughable. Who can believe this Kayata guy has any credible sources? If he's right, as my mother used to say, "this is unbelievable."

Who, in their right mind, would not lock up the preferred candidate before advising the others that another candidate has been chosen?

What if, after calling the ones not chosen, the preferred candidate says "sorry, changed my mind, want more money, want more improvements to the facilities, etc.?"

What does the AD then say when he goes back to the rejected candidates? "Only kidding, you're the guy we wanted all along, but we wanted to see how you handle adversity because as you can now see by the way we conducted this search there's lots more adversity on the way."
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The preferred candidate is already locked up whoever he is.
 
Deadrody said:
Not that it really matters, but didn't UConn recently prove the foolishness of hiring someone that had never been a head coach for a major D1 job ? URI can't possibly be silly enough to do the same thing, can they ?
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Yes. They absolutely could, and will probably go one better, by naming someone that doesn't even have NBA cred to fall back on either.
 
Yardigan said:
Yes. They absolutely could, and will probably go one better, by naming someone that doesn't even have NBA cred to fall back on either.
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I'm happy for Hurley that his assistant got the job because it gives him additional piece of mind that he left URI in a good place. I think this helps him be ready and IN at UConn. Even if Cox might have been a better assistant than anyone else he'd have come with a heavy heart and desire to be HC asap, so I think this is better for UConn.

URI is really none of our business given that. I think you are ready or you aren't, there is absolutely no Ollie shade to project onto URI - plus if they can get a national championship in Cox's first two years I'd bet they'll take it ;o
 
Dogdeacon said:
I'm happy for Hurley that his assistant got the job because it gives him additional piece of mind that he left URI in a good place. I think this helps him be ready and IN at UConn. Even if Cox might have been a better assistant than anyone else he'd have come with a heavy heart and desire to be HC asap, so I think this is better for UConn.

URI is really none of our business given that. I think you are ready or you aren't, there is absolutely no Ollie shade to project onto URI - plus if they can get a national championship in Cox's first two years I'd bet they'll take it ;o
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Silly. I think you VASTLY underestimate Hurley if you think he'd seriously lose sleep over who they hire next at URI. All things being equal, sure, I have no doubt he'd rather see them do well, rather than not. Even so, I'm sure it meant a lot to Calhoun that his protege was hired at UConn. And yet, I'll be he's lost far more sleep over Ollie's performance the last few years than Hurley would about one stop on his coaching journey.

Furthermore, the only actual comparison between UConn and URI is 1) they're both in New England, and 2) they now share a one time head coach. URI was not, is not, will not, could not win a national championship in the next 2 years. The very idea is laughably ridiculous.

Like I said earlier, it doesn't really matter. I just find it interesting that they're basically doing the exact same thing as UConn that ended horribly. Fact is, if Kevin Ollie had been a head coach at a small school first, either he would have already demonstrated some of his coaching / recruiting weaknesses, or he would have been forced to correct them. Remains to be seen if Cox has what it takes or not. I don't really care because it's not UConn, and if Cox is such a great assistant, doesn't that demonstrate that Dan Hurley knows talent when he sees it ? As such, I'm pretty confident that same guy can hire comparable assistants at UConn.
 
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Deadrody said:
Silly. I think you VASTLY underestimate Hurley if you think he'd seriously lose sleep over who they hire next at URI...
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He only cared to the extent that if Cox wasn't hired at URI, Hurley would have brought him to UConn and gone after some of the recruits loyal to Cox who have already verballed to URI.
 
Deadrody said:
Silly. I think you VASTLY underestimate Hurley if you think he'd seriously lose sleep over who they hire next at URI. All things being equal, sure, I have no doubt he'd rather see them do well, rather than not. Even so, I'm sure it meant a lot to Calhoun that his protege was hired at UConn. And yet, I'll be he's lost far more sleep over Ollie's performance the last few years than Hurley would about one stop on his coaching journey.

Furthermore, the only actual comparison between UConn and URI is 1) they're both in New England, and 2) they now share a one time head coach. URI was not, is not, will not, could not win a national championship in the next 2 years. The very idea is laughably ridiculous.

Like I said earlier, it doesn't really matter. I just find it interesting that they're basically doing the exact same thing as UConn that ended horribly. Fact is, if Kevin Ollie had been a head coach at a small school first, either he would have already demonstrated some of his coaching / recruiting weaknesses, or he would have been forced to correct them. Remains to be seen if Cox has what it takes or not. I don't really care because it's not UConn, and if Cox is such a great assistant, doesn't that demonstrate that Dan Hurley knows talent when he sees it ? As such, I'm pretty confident that same guy can hire comparable assistants at UConn.
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Dearest D-rody:
Methinks you doth protest too much. Why is Rhody in your name? Do you work for them, Are you a rodybot?
For frogs sake, the national championship was a joke, hence the ;o. The losing sleep analogy is rich, Hurley said on his way out the door at URI that he really hoped they hired his assistant, so that's the one & only reason I think he cares (to be crystal fin clear, b/c the man himself said so). Every head coach has a first head coaching job, just cuz it happened to 'us' doesn't mean it'll happen to them. Every hire involves some risk and obviously the continuity benefit out-weighed the HC experience in the only 'rody' analysis that matters.
 
Deadrody said:
Silly. I think you VASTLY underestimate Hurley if you think he'd seriously lose sleep over who they hire next at URI. All things being equal, sure, I have no doubt he'd rather see them do well, rather than not. Even so, I'm sure it meant a lot to Calhoun that his protege was hired at UConn. And yet, I'll be he's lost far more sleep over Ollie's performance the last few years than Hurley would about one stop on his coaching journey.

Furthermore, the only actual comparison between UConn and URI is 1) they're both in New England, and 2) they now share a one time head coach. URI was not, is not, will not, could not win a national championship in the next 2 years. The very idea is laughably ridiculous.

Like I said earlier, it doesn't really matter. I just find it interesting that they're basically doing the exact same thing as UConn that ended horribly. Fact is, if Kevin Ollie had been a head coach at a small school first, either he would have already demonstrated some of his coaching / recruiting weaknesses, or he would have been forced to correct them. Remains to be seen if Cox has what it takes or not. I don't really care because it's not UConn, and if Cox is such a great assistant, doesn't that demonstrate that Dan Hurley knows talent when he sees it ? As such, I'm pretty confident that same guy can hire comparable assistants at UConn.
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Dogdeacon said:
Dearest D-rody:
Methinks you doth protest too much. Why is Rhody in your name? Do you work for them, Are you a rodybot?
For frogs sake, the national championship was a joke, hence the ;o. The losing sleep analogy is rich, Hurley said on his way out the door at URI that he really hoped they hired his assistant, so that's the one & only reason I think he cares (to be crystal fin clear, b/c the man himself said so). Every head coach has a first head coaching job, just cuz it happened to 'us' doesn't mean it'll happen to them. Every hire involves some risk and obviously the continuity benefit out-weighed the HC experience in the only 'rody' analysis that matters.
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Everything I've read about and heard from Hurley indicates that his legacy is important to him. He's proud of the job he did building up URI and doesn't want to see it fade. He also cares about the kids he left behind. And he cares about his friend and 'protege' Cox.

I'm quite certain he cared about the hire and wants them to be successful. Them making the 'the right hire' is probably like some form of closure for him.
 
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intlzncster said:
Everything I've read about and heard from Hurley indicates that his legacy is important to him. He's proud of the job he did building up URI and doesn't want to see it fade. He also cares about the kids he left behind. And he cares about his friend and 'protege' Cox.

I'm quite certain he cared about the hire and wants them to be successful. Them making the 'the right hire' is probably like some form of closure for him.
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Dan's an awesome coach and "does" great stuff...but, as the Rhodesters would probably say...wouldn't put a lot of stock in what he "says"...:D
He's NOT losing sleep over who they hire at Rhode Island University....
 
Yardigan said:
Dan's an awesome coach and "does" great stuff...but, as the Rhodesters would probably say...wouldn't put a lot of stock in what he "says"...:D
He's NOT losing sleep over who they hire at Rhode Island University....
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No one has expressed any worry that for the past x days Dan Hurley hasn't been sleeping soundly. Are you DRody's alterego? This is a moot post for two people to make:
A. No one ever said he's losing sleep and they hired a coach.
B. Put the Ambien down gently by the side of your workstation.
C. They hired the guy Hurley said he wanted hired so you are literally posting to reassure us for the 2nd time that Dan Hurley, due to his nature, is not worried about something that he cannot possibly be worried about. Capice? ;)
 
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Dogdeacon said:
No one has expressed any worry that for the past x days Dan Hurley hasn't been sleeping soundly. Are you DRody's alterego? This is a moot post for two people to make:
A. No one ever said he's losing sleep and they hired a coach.
B. Put the Ambien down gently by the side of your workstation.
C. They hired the guy Hurley said he wanted hired so you are literally posting to reassure us for the 2nd time that Dan Hurley, due to his nature, is not worried about something that he cannot possibly be worried about. Capice? ;)
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Yes sir.
 
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