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Chin Diesel said:
Yeah, except SMU is a private school with a multi billion endowment and boosters who will stroke a check for anything.
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I don't know how generous their boosters are but there are about 12,000 undergraduate and graduate students at SMU and their endowment is about $2 billion. Not huge by endowment standards these days. Tulane is also a private school which has about the same number of undergraduate and graduate students with a similar approximately $2 billion endowment. Hasn't done much for them.

Just for a reference point on endowments, my son is at a small school with less than 2000 students and their endowment is $1.3 billion. And that's a D3 school.
 
zls44 said:
I would pay $10,000 for a recording of Aresco asking Air Force and Colorado State "would you guys like to join us THIS TIME, now that we're worse?"
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He was brought in for his expertise in television deals. He’s just biding his time waiting to win the big one.

Rocky And Bullwinkle Internet GIF
 
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Thank god we bailed when we did.

But if we didn't, would we have received an invite in the latest rounds of expansion? Probably not because football was so bad, but Mora changes that

Having said that, we're a basketball school and I'm a basketball man, so I love the Big East
 
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Fishy said:
My guy. Things have happened while you we’re sleeping…



Completely baffled and yet not baffled. It’s an inventory move - San Diego State makes sense and then they just need one more for inventory. SMU was the prettiest corpse in the morgue, so they’re gonna get in.

I am not sure Arizona, Oregon and Washington have anywhere to go other than to the Big 12….and they’d be signing up for trips to Houston, Cincy and Orlando, so they’re probably better off just enduring the every other year trip to Dallas.
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Wild isn't it? If the Big XII knew UCLA and UCS were going B1G, they wouldn't have expanded with those schools, and the Arizona Schools, Utah and Colorado would be going to the Big XII, or they do a full merger.

As for SMU it's academics are good, the student body is wealthy, and it has won a NC in football. Dallas isn't that far away.
 
Beachview said:
7 million dollars
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The $7M won’t be there with the next contract. But your point is valid — the time to move is when they are not getting the $7M.

When that time comes, we will be playing Temple every year in football, just like UMass.
 
EROCK CONN said:
Is anyone else completely baffled by this move? Pls don’t say Dallas metro….. I get it, but SMU screams our league is on the path to being the next Big 12……Have to think this pushes the remaining cream of the crop (zona, oregon, washington) faster out the door as soon as they can find a lifeboat…. if they can.
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Why would they invite a team that makes it more likely that they would want out?
 
shizzle787 said:
I think Army is the first school the AAC reaches out to. I think Army declines. I then think they will try for Air Force and Colorado State again. I think that will also fail. Buffalo and UMass would both like to join, but I don't see it. I assume the #14 team will be Texas State, Georgia State, or a C-USA school.
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No one is leaving Mountain West for the AAC. Mountain West makes much more sense as a conference, and when the next TV contract comes will make similar money (if it doesn’t now).
 
Huskyforlife said:
How in the world does SMU get into a power conference before us. That’s just so sad, watch USF be next.
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Much stronger base of alumni support ($1.5B vs $450 M) in a premium market (Dallas) and a major air hub. And yes, USF and Memphis will be next. If it was based on “old fashion” metrics where academic reputation, flagship, and HHI mattered, we would be among the cream of the crop.
 
businesslawyer said:
No one is leaving Mountain West for the AAC. Mountain West makes much more sense as a conference, and when the next TV contract comes will make similar money (if it doesn’t now).
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at this point the MWC might be able to steal Memphis if they were so inclined.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Wild isn't it? If the Big XII knew UCLA and UCS were going B1G, they wouldn't have expanded with those schools, and the Arizona Schools, Utah and Colorado would be going to the Big XII, or they do a full merger.

As for SMU it's academics are good, the student body is wealthy, and it has won a NC in football. Dallas isn't that far away.
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No, they still had to expand with those four.

But they are absolutely going to make another full court press now to raid the Pac12.
 
Kolumbo said:
I've been intrigued by the Temple situation for a while now but they seem content. I don't know why.

Still, nothing stupefies me more than the L-ville move. SMU - don't forget Rhett Lashlee, and this guy. Anyway, if you ain't P2, you're last.

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You should read their board. They (fans) aren't happy at all. In fact, they're waiting for an ACC/B1G invite to get them out of what I think is a hopeless situation.
 
Fishy said:
It looks like they’re actually going to lose SMU to the Pac12. (The rare realignment move that‘s bad for both conferences.)

I can’t even imagine where they’re going to backfill from, but my god, what is it going to take for Temple and Memphis to just run screaming from that conference?
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Where is Memphis and Temple going to go? I guess Temple could go Indy for football and A-10 for basketball. Not sure there is a landing spot for Memphis (although they would be an intriguing add to Big East basketball).
 
SoFla Steve said:
You should read their board. They (fans) aren't happy at all. In fact, they're waiting for an ACC/B1G invite to get them out of what I think is a hopeless situation.
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Problem with Temple is that their brand really doesn't get anyone excited, even in Philly. In football it's a Penn State town. They may eventually land in a watered down ACC once that league implodes. Once Florida State, Clemson, UNC, UVA, etc. find their way out of that league and its GOR deal, things will get very interesting in these parts.
 
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SoFla Steve said:
You should read their board. They (fans) aren't happy at all. In fact, they're waiting for an ACC/B1G invite to get them out of what I think is a hopeless situation.
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I know Temple isn't all that but it's a shame UConn, Rutgers, and Temple or Pitt aren't in the same conference. Perhaps Temple and UConn would be a package deal for an invite. As many speculate, we could both end up in the ACC lite, or should we say, Big East Football Conference. Hmm, that's not bad.
 
tcf15 said:
Wonder if hoops knows something…

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I would be surprised.

They’re not going to want their hoop team in that league.
 
Kolumbo said:
I know Temple isn't all that but it's a shame UConn, Rutgers, and Temple or Pitt aren't in the same conference. Perhaps Temple and UConn would be a package deal for an invite. As many speculate, we could both end up in the ACC lite, or should we say, Big East Football Conference. Hmm, that's not bad.
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UConn and Temple have basically no history and no real connection.

I hope we’re never in a conference with them ever again.
 
Fishy said:
UConn and Temple have basically no history and no real connection.

I hope we’re never in a conference with them ever again.
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UConn - Rutgers had no history and that was shaping up to be a pretty good football rivalry until rutgers won the lottery. Maybe Temple isn't it, but UConn needs a somewhat local rivalry.
 
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