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I think it's large hedge funds and others who "short" are kind of dumb. It's more like gambling than investing. It's the equivalent of going into a casino and finding a drunk guy playing $500 blackjack hands and back betting on him. If you're betting the market will go down, you're essentially betting against the house. That being said hedge funds have made a ton of $$ over the years off of this kind of stuff, but letting a bunch of kids living in their parent's basement manipulate stocks like this is insane. It will come to a stop one way or the other, but I hope something comes of this because there is literally nothing to keep these idiots from running a stock way up and then cashing it out and letting it crash. Not sure how they'll regulated it, but until these guys lose their shirts off doing this kind of stuff they aren't going to learn their lesson. I'm not saying I'm in favor of hedge funds, but I think this short term stock manipulation is a joke.
correct me if I'm wrong, but if a hedge fund is operating as their name suggests...shouldn't they be hedging against their short position? It's hard to feel bad for multi-billion dollar funds put all their eggs in one basket without taking normal risk measures. If I was one of their clients I would be livid and never invest with them again
 
correct me if I'm wrong, but if a hedge fund is operating as their name suggests...shouldn't they be hedging against their short position? It's hard to feel bad for multi-billion dollar funds put all their eggs in one basket without taking normal risk measures. If I was one of their clients I would be livid and never invest with them again
I never said anywhere the I felt bad for hedge funds. They know the game they're playing and actually most of them lose money shorting stocks. There are some that do well over short periods of time, like Bill Ackman, but those guys play dirty as well. They'll buy puts and bet huge against a company and then try to expose as much dirt as they possibly can to drive the stock price down. Some of the companies deserve it, but others don't. What happened to just buying companies with good fundamentals that had strong balance sheets and were well managed? Now it's turned into a video game of sorts where people can go on a message board and in real-time get 2 million people to go buy a stock to drive the price up....just doesn't seem right. I'm all for making $$ in the stock market, but these guys are just playing games. I apologize to any of you guys who made a killing off of GME...great job if you did, I just think the whole thing is out of control.
 
Vive la resistance! A resurgence or dead cat bounce?
I have no idea how this will play out. I could see this backfiring and reinvigorating WSB investors. At the back of all of this is that if these folks just maintain, the price will go up with some of these shorts expiring on Friday.
 
I think large hedge funds and others who "short" are kind of dumb. It's more like gambling than investing. It's the equivalent of going into a casino and finding a drunk guy playing $500 blackjack hands and back betting on him. If you're betting the market will go down, you're essentially betting against the house. That being said hedge funds have made a ton of $$ over the years off of this kind of stuff, but letting a bunch of kids living in their parent's basement manipulate stocks like this is insane. It will come to a stop one way or the other, but I hope something comes of this because there is literally nothing to keep these idiots from running a stock way up and then cashing it out and letting it crash. Not sure how they'll regulate it, but until these guys lose their shirts off doing this kind of stuff they aren't going to learn their lesson. I'm not saying I'm in favor of hedge funds, but I think this short term stock manipulation is a joke.
No idea how you regulate this (within the scope of the first amendment) without heavily regulating the ability of these hedge funds to enter into such staggering short positions on companies. And not for nothing, but how on earth do you prove market manipulation for a single anonymous poster on a message board full of a couple million anonymous posters?
 

I know you hate me but...
 
Resurgence. People are going to be euphoric they survived this and know they're only two days of trading away from taking down Melvin and Citron. Bet it goes up to 420.69 tomorrow.

I took a small position just so I could be part of the fun.

Allegedly there is a ridiculous amount of sells for 420.69.

So if anyone here has it, I’d put a sell in for at least 420.68 lol
 
I am pretty illiterate when it comes to the market. I have mastered the art of not looking at my account on days like today but all of this drama seems like it could lead to....disaster? My Roth is in VTSAX and I put some money in the S&P fund and VGT last spring. It's been the bright spot of the disastrous last year. Is it all about to go to hell? Was this Reddit-Gameplan story the only reason it dropped like a rock today or a combo of factors?
 
Resurgence. People are going to be euphoric they survived this and know they're only two days of trading away from taking down Melvin and Citron. Bet it goes up to 420.69 tomorrow.

I took a small position just so I could be part of the fun.
Its going to be armageddon tomorrow morning. The horde is mad they banned WSB and their discord.
 
Investors/banks get together all the time to squeeze shorts. You’re not allowed to do in on a message board, it needs to be done in private?

I haven't really posted in this thread... kind of like to think of work and money separate from my hobbies. But yeah,, I'm sure they'll regulate it somehow because guys with Robinhood accounts don't have the kind of political lobbying capital hedge funds do, but you're hitting the nail on the head here imo. Market manipulation is market manipulation. Just cause you wear a suit when you do it doesn't mean it should be legal.
 
I haven't really posted in this thread... kind of like to think of work and money separate from my hobbies. But yeah,, I'm sure they'll regulate it somehow because guys with Robinhood accounts don't have the kind of political lobbying capital hedge funds do, but you're hitting the nail on the head here imo. Market manipulation is market manipulation. Just cause you wear a suit when you do it doesn't mean it should be legal.
The single advantage the little guy has in this situation is the general unpopularity of Wall Street. Regulating retail investors in favor of the big institutional players will have a steep political cost. People already perceive the game to be rigged.
 
The single advantage the little guy has in this situation is the general unpopularity of Wall Street. Regulating retail investors in favor of the big institutional players will have a steep political cost. People already perceive the game to be rigged.

Certainly hope so!
 

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