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The coldest I've ever been in my life was Killington Peak. They closed that mountain when I made it to the bottom but it must have been -20 at the peak with ridiculous wind. The Killington nightlife is the best but I hate that place to ski. Killington is skied off by 11 AM most weekends and I know someone will say: "because you don't know where to ski, you have to ski Bear in the morning and the glades in the afternoon" To that I say bull . There are too many people there no matter where you ski.
Western skiers get intimidated by the least little bit of ice. It really is funny to watch a western skier try to ski in New England. They generally think we are nuts skiing on ice, cold damp winds and no sun.
Some good points about getting skied off. Killington's lift capacity is 37,535/hour. Mammoths is 50,000/hour. Based on the size of the mountains, that puts 49 people per acre on the mountain every hour at Killington while Mammoth puts 14 people per acre on the mountain every hour. More snow and less people in your space makes for a lot better skiing day. I remember waiting for up to an hour in line at Killington. 15 minutes is a really long time at Mammoth and if you go to certain spots, you can ski on the lift just about all day long.
 
I lived in Vail/beaver Creek for 4 years. That area is heaven on earth, to me. There is no comparison to the east coast. My dad had a place at Sugarbush for a decade, western skiing kicks it's butt. I saw a pic yesterday that you could see the lift lines at Vail/BC from space, that's really too bad. BC used to be the place the locals skied and Vail was for the tourists...
The biggest difference is the amount of terrain, amount of snow, lack of ice, difficulty of terrain, amenities on mountain, night life, temperature, lack of rain, all that good stuff.
 
I've skied in the east, west and mid-west. Western Colorado through Utah has the best of all worlds imo. Telluride is tremendous, as is Steamboat. Those would be my top two. Love Squaw, but the Sierra cement can make it tough to turn. Love the east, but ice, sketchy conditions and crowds are far more prevalent.

I think Mount Snow lives up to its reputation as the closest good, all-mountain skiing. I also love that the North Face has only black diamonds, so you really reduce a l0t of the crowds and the risks of less-experienced skiers. Because of its proximity, Mount Snow tends to be more of a New York crowd, fwiw. It seems Okemo is the mountain preferred by many Connecticut residents, and I think it's a great family mountain, although it can take a long time to get from one area to another if, e.g., you have kids in lessons in one spot and you want to ski in another.

Driving a little further begins to pay off imo, as Mt. Ellen (the old Sugarbush North) is still a pretty old school, less-crowded and very challenging and fun mountain that generally draws much smaller crowds. A little further still brings you to Mad River, which I love, but is probably too rustic and difficult for beginners to jump in, as they don't have much in the way of amenities.

Jay Peak is awesome--especially the glades. But it's wayyyyy too far most times.
 
Some good points about getting skied off. Killington's lift capacity is 37,535/hour. Mammoths is 50,000/hour. Based on the size of the mountains, that puts 49 people per acre on the mountain every hour at Killington while Mammoth puts 14 people per acre on the mountain every hour. More snow and less people in your space makes for a lot better skiing day. I remember waiting for up to an hour in line at Killington. 15 minutes is a really long time at Mammoth and if you go to certain spots, you can ski on the lift just about all day long.
Was at Killington last Saturday and you're definitely right about skiing off. I got to Bear around 10 and Outer Limits was a zoo. Not many people ski the Canyon though. Sometimes I was the only person on the trail. And of course some runs on Skye are always open later in the day when people are funneling down the greens.
 
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Generally...longer runs, more skiable acres, more vertical, more snow, warmer temps, better amenities.

Not this season....I think Vt has more snow..I have plans for a Tahoe trip in late Feb that might turn into a Jackson Hole trip
 
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Obviously Tahoe. But I'm a little biased.

Grew up skiing the east but my uncle lives in Tahoe, it's a totally different ball game, last time I was out there we went all over, started at Squaw and Alpine then headed south down to mammoth. Absolutely love the sierras. I haven't been to CO or Jackson hole Wyoming but I have a feeling CA has the best skiing and riding in the country
 
Grew up skiing the east but my uncle lives in Tahoe, it's a totally different ball game, last time I was out there we went all over, started at Squaw and Alpine then headed south down to mammoth. Absolutely love the sierras. I haven't been to CO or Jackson hole Wyoming but I have a feeling CA has the best skiing and riding in the country

Haven't been to Mammoth, but there is a reason they call the snow Sierra Cement...you need to experience Utah powder..or CO pow for that matter...BC also has great snow
 
Last time I went to Killington, Stratton and Mt Snow the greens were in great condition and the fairways were tight and green! Love those places, real nice tracks!:D
 
CTBasketball said:
Damn I'm missing out by only skiing the east. Have you ever skied Sugarloaf in March?

No, but Sugarloaf is all about the wind/fog. Either can stop summit lift from.running. Great mountain though. I prefer single large peak mtns vs. the multi-peak resorts. Ie. Sugarloaf over Sunday River.
 
No, but Sugarloaf is all about the wind/fog. Either can stop summit lift from.running. Great mountain though. I prefer single large peak mtns vs. the multi-peak resorts. Ie. Sugarloaf over Sunday River.
Same. Was thinking about taking a 2-day trip to Sugarloaf in late March.
 
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Grew up skiing the east but my uncle lives in Tahoe, it's a totally different ball game, last time I was out there we went all over, started at Squaw and Alpine then headed south down to mammoth. Absolutely love the sierras. I haven't been to CO or Jackson hole Wyoming but I have a feeling CA has the best skiing and riding in the country

I'm not going to agree that the best riding in the country is in CA, but the terrain at Kirkwood is definitely some of my favorite.

I learned to ride at Killington / Okemo / Snow / Stratton, but have been out west to Heavenly and Kirkwood in Tahoe, Aspen and Snowmass (and Aspen Highlands) in CO, Big Sky and Moonlight Basin in MT, and Jackson Hole and Grand Targhee in WY. Riding in the Northeast doesn't compare to the places I've been out west in size, space, and snow quality, but I think learning on the ice of VT made me better when I finally got on some good snow. I think it's easier to adapt from ice to pow than the other way around.
 
Not this season....I think Vt has more snow..I have plans for a Tahoe trip in late Feb that might turn into a Jackson Hole trip

Colorado just got 40+ inches in the last few days, my brother told me its been epic.
 
Not this season....I think Vt has more snow..I have plans for a Tahoe trip in late Feb that might turn into a Jackson Hole trip
True this year. Its been our worst year in decades and we still have had around 80 inches which isn't too far behind Vermont. I just looked and Killington has had 88 inches. For comparison, here is the last 5 years in Tahoe: 326, 355, 810, 561 & 480. We usually get a ton of snow. It looks like the storm door is finally open and were hoping to see the total snowfall climb quickly!
 
It's supposed to snow repeatedly in Stowe over the next two weeks. Hoping that the base gets built up good for spring. It's been a cold but not very snowy winter up there. Looks like that is about to change.

As an aside, for those that venture to Stowe or Sugarbush often. If you like a decent old school mountain for families and intermediate skiers, Bolton Valley is cheap and never crowded. They also have a ratty old bar with good beer, a big fireplace and all kinds of good bar food. It looks like nothing has changed since 1980 but the workers are friendly, the mountain is pretty decent, the price is fair and the beer is cold.
 
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Not this season....I think Vt has more snow..I have plans for a Tahoe trip in late Feb that might turn into a Jackson Hole trip
Were supposed to get 3 feet this weekend. Don't change your plans yet!!!
 
Were supposed to get 3 feet this weekend. Don't change your plans yet!!!

CA--are you in Lk Tahoe? The reports I'm reading are talking about rain below 8k on Sun...Any local knowledge would be greatly appreciated...I need to decide by next Thur

Thx for the heads up...
 
CA--are you in Lk Tahoe? The reports I'm reading are talking about rain below 8k on Sun...Any local knowledge would be greatly appreciated...I need to decide by next Thur

Thx for the heads up...
yeah, i saw that but no one at Squaw seems to be too concerned. Ill update you on Sunday. Im in Tahoe City & Reno.
 
yeah, i saw that but no one at Squaw seems to be too concerned. Ill update you on Sunday. Im in Tahoe City & Reno.

Great...thx....much appreciated...hope you get some good pow this w/e
 
Great...thx....much appreciated...hope you get some good pow this w/e
Well, we got a ton of snow at the upper elevations but its pretty heavy. I was at Squaw & Northstar today and, as much as i love Tahoe and make my living selling it, I think id probably head for Jackson Hole instead of Tahoe. They've had an epic snowfall in Jackson this year and the skiing is awesome. Save Tahoe for next year.
 
Well, we got a ton of snow at the upper elevations but its pretty heavy. I was at Squaw & Northstar today and, as much as i love Tahoe and make my living selling it, I think id probably head for Jackson Hole instead of Tahoe. They've had an epic snowfall in Jackson this year and the skiing is awesome. Save Tahoe for next year.

CA....thx for the inside info....much appreciated..have been to Tahoe 2x before...and will be back again...
 
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Skied Telluride, Vail and Steamboat. I've done a bunch of the Vermont mountains but they just don't compare to Colorado, I do like Stowe though.
 
I'm at squaw/alpine this week and its unfortunately not worth the trip. They got 3ft on the upper mountain on Saturday then it rained (hard) all day Sunday. Squaw was "Tahoe cement" on Monday and yesterday the snow was so hard on top you would have thought it was a bad day on the east coast.

I can see how this place could be awesome with a ton of snow, but warm weather (high of 50 tomorrow) is killing them. If you still have a chance to bail, I would say skip Tahoe this year, unfortunately.

I'll be boarding up at mt snow early march so hopefully I get some decent riding then...never thought I would say that
 
Alta just got a ton of new snow this past weekend, FWIW.
 
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