OT - Seattle Corner the NFL and Me over team

[BlueMAB]

but the word thug does not have any resemblance to the n-word. None, regardless of if people claim they think it does.

You frankly have no idea what you are talking about. Does the word "boy" have any semblance to the n-word?

Call a 50-60 year old black man "boy" to his face and see what sort of response you get.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Stupid people exist in the world, that is true, absolutely. I was just commenting on the fact that you made a comment that the word 'thug' has taken on a racial connotation, when in fact thug can be used to reference a person from any racial background. I don't think anyone who hears the word thug automatically pictures an African American, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just commenting on what I believe and how I react to that word.

Just because a word can be used in various contexts does not mean there can't be racial contexts. Yes, thug can be used in a lot of ways. When referring to former Syracuse players or Russian Prime Ministers.

But I think that "thug" is also being used very liberally towards young black men and there can be a racial connotation to it. When you start to notice social patterns where certain ethnic groups are treated differently. It doesn't make every person who uses the word thug a racist. But I think you'd be surprised at how common it is for there to be an underlying racial context.

In the case of the original post, the OP called Sherman a thug. What makes him a thug? Being outspoken and flamboyant? His Stanford education? The fact that he's rich?

If you changed nothing else about him but made him white, do you think the OP would still have used the word thug? Why or why not?

 

[UConn07]

Just because a word can be used in various contexts does not mean there can't be racial contexts. Yes, thug can be used in a lot of ways. When referring to former Syracuse players or Russian Prime Ministers.

But I think that "thug" is also being used very liberally towards young black men and there can be a racial connotation to it. When you start to notice social patterns where certain ethnic groups are treated differently. It doesn't make every person who uses the word thug a racist. But I think you'd be surprised at how common it is for there to be an underlying racial context.

In the case of the original post, the OP called Sherman a thug. What makes him a thug? Being outspoken and flamboyant? His Stanford education? The fact that he's rich?

If you changed nothing else about him but made him white, do you think the OP would still have used the word thug? Why or why not?

Forte - care to respond here, so we can end this discussion and move on to recruiting?

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Just because a word can be used in various contexts does not mean there can't be racial contexts. Yes, thug can be used in a lot of ways. When referring to former Syracuse players or Russian Prime Ministers.

But I think that "thug" is also being used very liberally towards young black men and there can be a racial connotation to it. When you start to notice social patterns where certain ethnic groups are treated differently. It doesn't make every person who uses the word thug a racist. But I think you'd be surprised at how common it is for there to be an underlying racial context.

In the case of the original post, the OP called Sherman a thug. What makes him a thug? Being outspoken and flamboyant? His Stanford education? The fact that he's rich?

If you changed nothing else about him but made him white, do you think the OP would still have used the word thug? Why or why not?

Jeez he said he acted like a thug. And he did. If a thug was interviewed after a game, I'd expect him to sound exactly like that.

If Sherman was white, you nor I have any idea how Forte or anyone else would've reacted. My thought, since I don't assume people are inherently racist, is that he would've said the same thing if it were Jeremy Shockey, Aaron Hernandez, Marshall Henderson, or Eric Devendorf.

 

[J187Money]

Jeez he said he acted like a thug. And he did. If a thug was interviewed after a game, I'd expect him to sound exactly like that.

If Sherman was white, you nor I have any idea how Forte or anyone else would've reacted. My thought, since I don't assume people are inherently racist, is that he would've said the same thing if it were Jeremy Shockey, Aaron Hernandez, Marshall Henderson, or Eric Devendorf.

In that case, I've seen hundreds of examples of thuggish behavior from UCONN fans, both home and at road games. Much worse than anything that came out of Sherman's mouth.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

In that case, I've seen hundreds of examples of thuggish behavior from UCONN fans, both home and at road games. Much worse than anything that came out of Sherman's mouth.

I have too. But not on national TV.

 

[huskypantz]

I see where the stereotype comes into play now. #blinded

 

[huskypantz]

Other thugs. #ShermanProtege

 

[babysheep]

I wonder how many people would call Gronk a "thug" if he made a similarly spectacular play to get his team to the Superbowl, after the guy against him talked a whole bunch of about him.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I wonder how many people would call Gronk a "thug" if he made a similarly spectacular play to get his team to the Superbowl, after the guy against him talked a whole bunch of about him.

Pretty sure Tupac just rolled in his grave.

This conversation deserves a firing squad.

I find the whole thing very funny, because when I hear the word 'thug' and 'race' and associate images, it's white neo-Nazi skinheads that I invariably end up picturing.