OT - Seattle Corner the NFL and Me over team

[Jax Husky]

Watching Showtime "Inside the NFL" and they summed up this whole "story" for me.

Phil Simms said to Collinsworth, "what if we had mic's on the field when we came off?...it's a fight out there". Collinsworht then said, "I'm glad they showed it...what you saw there was what it's like to be on an NFL playing field. If you're not at that level emotionally, if you're not borderline out of your mind when you're playing the game of football, you have no chance."

This is why I have no problem with it. We rarely get to see the inside look at the greats. We "value" this stoic attitude of keeping their greatness from the public eye. In that 2 minute moment after a flat out 4 hour fistfight, we got to see a great NFL player in his on-the-field element. It was glorious to see. I would have loved to see a Michael Jordan practice in about the 5th week of the season. I bet it would have made Richard Sherman look like Mr. Rogers.

 

[ZooCougar]

Watching Showtime "Inside the NFL" and they summed up this whole "story" for me.

Phil Simms said to Collinsworth, "what if we had mic's on the field when we came off?...it's a fight out there". Collinsworht then said, "I'm glad they showed it...what you saw there was what it's like to be on an NFL playing field. If you're not at that level emotionally, if you're not borderline out of your mind when you're playing the game of football, you have no chance."

This is why I have no problem with it. We rarely get to see the inside look at the greats. We "value" this stoic attitude of keeping their greatness from the public eye. In that 2 minute moment after a flat out 4 hour fistfight, we got to see a great NFL player in his on-the-field element. It was glorious to see. I would have loved to see a Michael Jordan practice in about the 5th week of the season. I bet it would have made Richard Sherman look like Mr. Rogers.

Bingo.


All of the fuddy duddies soiled their drawers once they saw how sausage was really made.

 

[whaler11]

Yeah cause arguing about something idiotic for a week is so beneath you...

I'll give you credit. When you are off the rails and missing points you go all in.

 

[whaler11]

Bingo.


All of the fuddy duddies soiled their drawers once they saw how sausage was really made.

I've always wished the older conservative faction of the UConn women's basketball fanbase could spend the time I have with the players and coaches I've known through the years.

Their reaction to some of what I've been exposed to would be downright hilarious.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I'll give you credit. When you are off the rails and missing points you go all in.

It was a joke. Not some of my better stuff admittedly.

 

[whaler11]

It was a joke. Not some of my better stuff admittedly.

As Homer tells Millhous? Its funny because it's true.

 

[babysheep]

Just look at this thug

 

[ZooCougar]

He's so well spoken.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

No class. And he sounded like a thug. That's right. He sounded like a THUG.

 

[whaler11]

Well when the concussion problem is solved by the games being played by the Fox robots, they can be programed to speak only in Jeterese.

 

[ZooCougar]

No class. And he sounded like a thug. That's right. He sounded like a THUG.

Really? Did you hit your head or something?

 

[Scoe]

No class. And he sounded like a thug. That's right. He sounded like a THUG.

You mad bro

 

[Scoe]

Just look at this thug

this makes me like him even more

 

[ZooCougar]

this makes me like him even more

I thought the same thing,

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Really? Did you hit your head or something?

Nope. I'm just wondering when someone is gonna make the list of words we're not supposed to say public anymore. Who's making the list? Sherman? He said thug is the new N-word. I'm sure the media will comply and we'll all be saying the T-word soon enough.

You know what really is the N-word equivalent? The name of the NFL franchise that plays in our nation's capital. I hope all of you guys never say the R-word.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

You mad bro

I don't like Sherman. I think he's a and there's a good reason Trent Williams from the R-word punched him in the face. I'm allowed to think this and not be racist.

I will give him credit for not having a glass jaw. Dude can take a punch.

 

[huskymedic]

Nope. I'm just wondering when someone is gonna make the list of words we're not supposed to say public anymore. Who's making the list?

Too bad George Carlin is dead...

 

[whaler11]

Nope. I'm just wondering when someone is gonna make the list of words we're not supposed to say public anymore. Who's making the list? Sherman? He said thug is the new N-word. I'm sure the media will comply and we'll all be saying the T-word soon enough.

You know what really is the N-word equivalent? The name of the NFL franchise that plays in our nation's capital. I hope all of you guys never say the R-word.

Is there really anyone who isn't a mouth breather who doesn't think the Washington NFL team needs to change their name?

 

[whaler11]

I don't like Sherman. I think he's a and there's a good reason Trent Williams from the R-word punched him in the face. I'm allowed to think this and not be racist.

I will give him credit for not having a glass jaw. Dude can take a punch.

Of course you can. But at the same time, the word thug has taken on a bit of a racist connotation.

Now not everyone who calls someone a thug is a racist. But some racists do use it in a similar fashion to make the same point.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Is there really anyone who isn't a mouth breather who doesn't think the Washington NFL team needs to change their name?

Apparently the NFL doesn't think so. It's not on the list yet. We're still allowed to say Redskins without fear of public scorn.

Can't say "thug" but Redskins is ok.

 

[whaler11]

Apparently the NFL doesn't think so. It's not on the list yet. We're still allowed to say Redskins without fear of public scorn.

Can't say "thug" but Redskins is ok.

Pretty much every single person who has an IQ over 40 thinks the Redskins should change their name. There is so much public scorn for the name I'm not sure how you could possibly write that.

It's not the NFL, it's one idiot. At some point in the medium term I imagine the NFL will force his hand
if he doesn't figure it out on it's own.

BTW - we all have it. You don't get Sherman's point on 'thug'.

 

[BlueMAB]

Maybe they should change the name to the Washington Oklahomans.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Nope. I'm just wondering when someone is gonna make the list of words we're not supposed to say public anymore. Who's making the list? Sherman? He said thug is the new N-word. I'm sure the media will comply and we'll all be saying the T-word soon enough.

You know what really is the N-word equivalent? The name of the NFL franchise that plays in our nation's capital. I hope all of you guys never say the R-word.

First of all, you're absolutely right about the Redskins. It's a wildly racist term and should definitely be changed. Sadly, "tradition" trumps a minority group with virtually no power in the United States. So. Yeah.

Second of all, you can say whatever you want. I know that many people like to pretend their rights are being trampled when someone points out an ignorant thing they've said, but sorry, they're not. You are totally protected by the first amendment. You can say the most racist thing in the world and it's totally fine.

But context matters. If you start to notice that certain terms are only applied to certain races, i.e., thug is used predominantly with black men (but not always obviously), then you might want to think about how that influences the way we view race and culture. You might wonder why it's okay to throw that word around and why you view black and white athletes differently.

Nobody is making you say anything. There is no Thought Police. But some self-reflection might be considered.

 

[UConn07]

Of course you can. But at the same time, the word thug has taken on a bit of a racist connotation.

Now not everyone who calls someone a thug is a racist. But some racists do use it in a similar fashion to make the same point.

So basically you are saying is:

1. Person A uses the word 'thug'
2. Person B uses the word 'thug' and is an admitted racist
3. Persons A & B are both racist

Idiocy at its best. You really continue to amaze.

'The word thug has taken on a bit of a racist connotation"

Says who? You? The media because they make stuff up? You're insane. Guess what, it's just a word. I used the word cracker the other day. Am I racist? Or was I having a snack? Who knows?

You sensitive people dumb down this country.

 

[whaler11]

So basically you are saying is:

1. Person A uses the word 'thug'
2. Person B uses the word 'thug' and is an admitted racist
3. Persons A & B are both racist

Idiocy at its best. You really continue to amaze.

'The word thug has taken on a bit of a racist connotation"

Says who? You? The media because they make stuff up? You're insane. Guess what, it's just a word. I used the word cracker the other day. Am I racist? Or was I having a snack? Who knows?

You sensitive people dumb down this country.

You are really making a strong run at biggest dope on this board. Congrats.

A handful of posts up I said that not everyone who uses the term is racist. That doesn't mean that Sherman doesn't have a point - that some racists use the word to convey a racist sentiment.

Are you so clueless to not look at the public reaction to Sherman's rant on social media and not see that a percentage of the backlash was blindingly obviously racist?

 

[UConn07]

You are really making a strong run at biggest dope on this board. Congrats.

A handful of posts up I said that not everyone who uses the term is racist. That doesn't mean that Sherman doesn't have a point - that some racists use the word to convey a racist sentiment.

Are you so clueless to not look at the public reaction to Sherman's rant on social media and not see that a percentage of the backlash was blindingly obviously racist?

Stupid people exist in the world, that is true, absolutely. I was just commenting on the fact that you made a comment that the word 'thug' has taken on a racial connotation, when in fact thug can be used to reference a person from any racial background. I don't think anyone who hears the word thug automatically pictures an African American, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just commenting on what I believe and how I react to that word.

 

[whaler11]

Stupid people exist in the world, that is true, absolutely. I was just commenting on the fact that you made a comment that the word 'thug' has taken on a racial connotation, when in fact thug can be used to reference a person from any racial background. I don't think anyone who hears the word thug automatically pictures an African American, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm just commenting on what I believe and how I react to that word.

Well why don't you go read the Browne article on Grantland the other day and the Sherman article on deadspin and see that the world is bigger than just how you personally react to a word.

 

[UConn07]

Well why don't you go read the Browne article on Grantland the other day and the Sherman article on deadspin and see that the world is bigger than just how you personally react to a word.

Let me first say that I have no issue with the Sherman interview, but just because Sherman says he feels a certain way, that's good. There's also people out there that believe 'God' should be taken out of the pledge of allegience. Do we need to listen to them as well, or can we just go on and live life the way we always live it. There comes a time where we need to stop glorifying words because a small group of people think they are evil. In my opinion, its ridiculous.

I pose a different scenario all together. I play in a flag football league that is uber-competitive and borderline out of control. Some of the guys in it think they are playing for more than just fun. On more than one occasion in a game I have been called the n-word after a play cause the receiver thought I held him on an outside route, and I'm white. It's a competitive game we all have fun, things are chippy and we all get along after the game fine. The team we played was all black. How am I to react. To me, no big deal because that's how I am, I just don't care about words, but to others they may react differently. I know that's a whole other discussion altogether, but the word thug does not have any resemblance to the n-word. None, regardless of if people claim they think it does.

 

[whaler11]

Let me first say that I have no issue with the Sherman interview, but just because Sherman says he feels a certain way, that's good. There's also people out there that believe 'God' should be taken out of the pledge of allegience. Do we need to listen to them as well, or can we just go on and live life the way we always live it. There comes a time where we need to stop glorifying words because a small group of people think they are evil. In my opinion, its ridiculous.

I pose a different scenario all together. I play in a flag football league that is uber-competitive and borderline out of control. Some of the guys in it think they are playing for more than just fun. On more than one occasion in a game I have been called the n-word after a play cause the receiver thought I held him on an outside route, and I'm white. It's a competitive game we all have fun, things are chippy and we all get along after the game fine. The team we played was all black. How am I to react. To me, no big deal because that's how I am, I just don't care about words, but to others they may react differently. I know that's a whole other discussion altogether, but the word thug does not have any resemblance to the n-word. None, regardless of if people claim they think it does.

Let me first say that I have no issue with the Sherman interview, but just because Sherman says he feels a certain way, that's good. There's also people out there that believe 'God' should be taken out of the pledge of allegience. Do we need to listen to them as well, or can we just go on and live life the way we always live it. There comes a time where we need to stop glorifying words because a small group of people think they are evil. In my opinion, its ridiculous.

I pose a different scenario all together. I play in a flag football league that is uber-competitive and borderline out of control. Some of the guys in it think they are playing for more than just fun. On more than one occasion in a game I have been called the n-word after a play cause the receiver thought I held him on an outside route, and I'm white. It's a competitive game we all have fun, things are chippy and we all get along after the game fine. The team we played was all black. How am I to react. To me, no big deal because that's how I am, I just don't care about words, but to others they may react differently. I know that's a whole other discussion altogether, but the word thug does not have any resemblance to the n-word. None, regardless of if people claim they think it does.

You may have noticed that throughout human history the meaning of words continually evolves.

You might note that in today' hyperconnected world, they can change even faster.

You don't get to be the lone judge and jury on how words are defined. I'm sure if the technology existed in the past we'd have a nice historical record of posts like yours raging against the machine.

 

[Carl Spackler]

The good news is that in 6 days, the super bowl will be played, and we can all watch for what Sherman says and does, so that we've got another couple weeks of 7 page threads of nonsense to carry us closer to the start of spring ball.