OT: Re-'Vol'-ting stories about Peyton. . .

[upstater]

I doubt UT would if this happened today either. Until the Duke case, everyone ran in fear of these complaints. Today, while still heavily biased to the complaintant, at least there is some investigation.

The Rolling Stone article really flipped my opinion on these cases. The public can have no idea on what really happens between two people. The possibilities run the full spectrum, so any claim serious enough to warrant a complaint needs to be handled by law enforcement.

The UT went case went to court with witnesses supporting her story.

 

[SubbaBub]

The UT went case went to court with witnesses supporting her story.

The Manning part? As the RS fiasco highlighted, there is machinery in place to push these cases forward including corroborating witnesses.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or that Manning wasn't guilty of boorish jock behavior or worse. The point is that the public needs to be less involved in these cases, especially those that were settled long ago. It's too easy to throw accusations that today go around the world and last forever.

 

[upstater]

The Manning part? As the RS fiasco highlighted, there is machinery in place to push these cases forward including corroborating witnesses.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or that Manning wasn't guilty of boorish jock behavior or worse. The point is that the public needs to be less involved in these cases, especially those that were settled long ago. It's too easy to throw accusations that today go around the world and last forever.

It was the Mannings themselves who brought this back up, repeatedly.

The woman kept quiet after they settled. She kept quiet for 7 years. They rehashed it not once, but twice. And we know why they did it. Did you actually read the transcripts?

The supporting witnesses were Manning's friends--who apparently couldn't tell a lie on his behalf.

 

[huskypantz]

The Manning part? As the RS fiasco highlighted, there is machinery in place to push these cases forward including corroborating witnesses.

I'm not saying it didn't happen or that Manning wasn't guilty of boorish jock behavior or worse. The point is that the public needs to be less involved in these cases, especially those that were settled long ago. It's too easy to throw accusations that today go around the world and last forever.

What is alarming to me is that someone who appeared to be a hard worker and generally good person had a personality conflict and possibly one or more incidents with a person in position of authority/celebrity. While the end results are not certain, there is reason to believe that the person's removal from employment on two separate occasions may have been related to outside influences. It takes a special kind of evil to enact that on a person and family. As a member of the public, I want to know that my rights would be protected if I was ever stonewalled.

 

[polycom]

The "Journalist" who wrote this piece is extremely bias.

 

[Palatine]

A college kid did something stupid. He showed up a female by putting a nut in her face.

Good grief. Let's hang the bastar&.

 

[huskiemaniac]

you assume a lot, you are obviously more than welcome to your own opinion as am I. we have no way of knowing why it is she was let go from her job at FS, I have a hard time believing that a world renowned medical professional was removed from her position based solely on the fact that she had nuts dragged across her face at the previous institution that she worked at. but as you said if she was released from her position based solely on that then yes, that is indeed disgusting.

Gee, if you find that so hard to believe why don't you look up what Lawrence Phillips did to his then-girlfriend and how her getting her ass kicked by that Neanderthal cost her a basketball scholarship...

 

[The X Man]

A college kid did something stupid. He showed up a female by putting a nut in her face.

Good grief. Let's hang the bastar&.

Why am I not surprised Mau & Palatine think sex assualt is no big thing

 

[mauconnfan]

A college kid did something stupid. He showed up a female by putting a nut in her face.

Good grief. Let's hang the bastar&.

Listen my buddy played for BC in the let 70's early 80's and to be honest with you the football team believed, I mean believed, they owned the campus. Not all of them mind you, but some of the guys ran around doing stuff 10X worst than this and it was accepted. Some of it was brutal when you think in today's standards which have changed no doubt, like it or not. Problem was the groupies all wanted to be in the with the highly ranked national football team/players sometimes probably received more than what they were looking for. Not in a violent or abusive manner, just a "be careful what you ask for" manner after all they are a team. Listen I am not condoning anything they are saying, it's wrong and distasteful. But it happens in locker rooms and it's a joke, a really bad one that can be harmful, but is not meant to be I am sure. Call it entitement or whatever, it's what the universities with high profile teams have been glorifying whether they know it or not, hell the NCAA has some blame here. Kids are kids, they do things to each other to get a laugh in the locker room. You put yourself in a position where 18-23 year olds are walking around with their johnson's hanging out and you think you can take it then you need to be able to take a joke. Now having anything touching your face when you don't want to exceeds the "joke" stage and should be penalized (or is it penilized) but again, it's the locker room, meant to be a joke not a good one at all in this case.

 

[ZOOCONN]

Gee, if you find that so hard to believe why don't you look up what Lawrence Phillips did to his then-girlfriend and how her getting her ass kicked by that Neanderthal cost her a basketball scholarship...

Just stop, these two things have nothing to do with each other. If he beat the piss out of the ATC then he should have been thrown off of the team but that didn't happen sooooo

 

[Palatine]

Why am I not surprised Mau & Palatine think sex assualt is no big thing

As sexual assault goes this is pretty mild stuff. It is mostly stupid and sophomoric. I'm mot defending, I'm calling it for what it is, bad judgement. There should have been a price to pay, at the time. A little sensitivity training. A sincere apology. If the school thinks it should suspend or even kick the kid out, that's their call.

But the idea this has anything to do with the character of the kid is a stretch. If it's a pattern that's a whole different animal. But this is said to be a one time incident. And if that's true, then it's just stupidity which is an epidemic in college.

I once got into it with SU fan because Ben Gordon slapped his girl friend. Shouldn't have done it. Bad judgement. But it in no way defined his personality. I'm not defending the slap, I'm trying to put it in context.

 

[Adios]

So how does Tom Brady look now?

 

[uconndogs]

I once got into it with SU fan because Ben Gordon slapped his girl friend. Shouldn't have done it. Bad judgement. But it in no way defined his personality. I'm not defending the slap, I'm trying to put it in context.

Well....I think when a guy strikes a woman it does define them. They have some very serious issues to address. Not sure if you are just trying to get a rise out of folks, but jeez man!

 

[mauconnfan]

So how does Tom Brady look now?

Why would he look any different? Makes no sense, he has nothing to do with this.

 

[J187Money]

I saw a LOT of questionable behavior when I was an RA in the jungle. Some of it I counseled kids about, some of it I had no choice but to get authorities or the school involved. But I never pretended that stuff didn't happen. And the worst guy on the floor (who was referred to as the "anti-christ" by some of the other RAs) is a productive member of society and hasn't had a drink in 15 years.

The point that Palatine is trying to make is that kids do a lot of dumb things, especially when they are around other kids. Then they grow up. Some people never change, but most do. Judging a 40 year old for something they did when they were 20 is a bit silly to me.

($^## - now I'm defending Palatine)

 

[DoctorWho85]

I saw a LOT of questionable behavior when I was an RA in the jungle. Some of it I counseled kids about, some of it I had no choice but to get authorities or the school involved. But I never pretended that stuff didn't happen. And the worst guy on the floor (who was referred to as the "anti-christ" by some of the other RAs) is a productive member of society and hasn't had a drink in 15 years.

The point that Palatine is trying to make is that kids do a lot of dumb things, especially when they are around other kids. Then they grow up. Some people never change, but most do. Judging a 40 year old for something they did when they were 20 is a bit silly to me.

($^## - now I'm defending Palatine)

Spring Weekend at the Jungle must have been a nightmare for RA's. I know my RA got into a lot of trouble because apparently a guest decided to spend the night in a friends dorm and took it about himself in a drunken rage to rip one of the sinks AND urinals from the wall. I get back Monday morning to a floor meeting, getting yelled at by school officials and authorities.

 

[J187Money]

Spring Weekend at the Jungle must have been a nightmare for RA's. I know my RA got into a lot of trouble because apparently a guest decided to spend the night in a friends dorm and took it about himself in a drunken rage to rip one of the sinks AND urinals from the wall. I get back Monday morning to a floor meeting, getting yelled at by school officials and authorities.

You sure I wasn't your RA?

 

[DoctorWho85]

You sure I wasn't your RA?

This was in 2003. I was in Hartford, 1st floor.

 

[J187Money]

This was in 2003. I was in Hartford, 1st floor.

They probably heard the tales of Fairfield 1st - circa 1991-1992 and wanted to outdo the legends...

But unless they got into hijinx including dead animal carcasses and stolen farm animals (just to name a couple of incidents)...I'm afraid that they missed the bar.

 

[FartMan69]

So how does Tom Brady look now?

Sexy

 

[huskiemaniac]

Just stop, these two things have nothing to do with each other. If he beat the piss out of the ATC then he should have been thrown off of the team but that didn't happen sooooo

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time following.,,my point was schools often look the other way when top athletes are involved...thus was just an example of that...and often it's the accuser that pays... Especially when Heisman trophy candidates are involved!

 

[ZOOCONN]

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time following.,,my point was schools often look the other way when top athletes are involved...thus was just an example of that...and often it's the accuser that pays... Especially when Heisman trophy candidates are involved!

thanks for the breaking news, I had never heard of such a thing before.....

 

[husky8273]

Please. Duke didn't hand a 6 figure settlement to the victim.

Duke settled twice with Coach Pressler - once for wrongful termination and then for violating a confidentiality agreement.

 

[huskypantz]

Duke settled twice with Coach Pressler - once for wrongful termination and then for violating a confidentiality agreement.

Wrong side of the equation - the comparison is between the two women claiming sexual assault and the subsequent settlements or lack of by the universities. The Duke settlement for the accused just proves the point. That would be like Tennessee writing a check to Manning for the incident.

 

[husky8273]

Wrong side of the equation - the comparison is between the two women claiming sexual assault and the subsequent settlements or lack of by the universities. The Duke settlement for the accused just proves the point. That would be like Tennessee writing a check to Manning for the incident.

No, you missed the point. Coach Pressler and the players were the victims in the Duke case.