OT: Notre Dame declines bowl bid

[Dove]

 

[uconnfan68]

Nothing is the same as 1970. Hate to break it to you.

Wait, wut?

 

[gsmooth]

no different than turning down an NIT invite.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Teams deciding not to play are doing it because the players don't want to play.

Revoke their scholarships. Maybe withhold NIL money. entitled premadonnas.

 

[Rondogg]

F ND

They go 10-2 and they decide to punish (who?) for not making the CFP.

Get over yourselves, ND.

 

[Rasputin]

They screwed themselves over by losing to the two playoff level teams they faced

Yes, losing two really close games to very good teams really screwed them. If only their losses were to two unranked opponents like Miami's were.

 

[GampelGladiator]

Don’t feel TOO bad for ND, they will still have more advantages than almost any program out there and still not able to win a national championship going on almost 40 years. Found this nugget today as college football doesn’t bend to a conference but to one program:

Starting next year...the MOU also guarantees CFP spot for each P4 conference champion. So if in effect this year...Duke would have bumped James Madison.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

they are independent contractors who get paid to do a job

Too bad. That they get paid. Playing football is suppose to be what they enjoy, not a job. College sports is a mess.

 

[slepers]

You are wrong. ND got hosed, passed over by a really suspect Alabama. And they did it, as others have stated, to appease the SEC.

That’s your opinion, others opinions are that you are wrong. Notre dame has received preferential treatment since I was a kid and that was a long time ago

 

[TouchdownHusky]

They literally do not meet the definition of an independent contractor lol...you cannot tell them where to be at what time to do a job.

Student athletes should be employees, but they are not. And the reason they are not is that once they become them, they break the entire economics of college athletics.

So do you want to continue to watch CFB? Then you best hope nothing changes where they are in this nebulous definition of student athlete who is "definitely not" an employee for legal purposes.

Student athletes should be students - period. Students who happen to enjoy playing a sport on Sat afternoons to get a little fresh air and exercise. It's gotten way out of control. It's disgraceful.

 

[Windham4th]

This is the answer: UMass!!!

knowing them, they probably suck at APR too

 

[EROCK CONN]

No conspiracy necessary. Yes, Notre Dame had “good” losses, but anyone could have lost those two games. Who did Notre Dame beat? USC? Who next? Bama had an additional loss, but much better best wins. Which is why it’s computer metrics were much higher.

And Bama had by far the worst extra loss of the bunch — FSU who went 4-8 this year and they looked horrible against Georgia and against a 7-5 Auburn team (ironically, they jumped ND after the Auburn game and the committee chair noted a “gutsy” 4th down call as a reason - yes, play calling….)

 

[Vuce]

 

[NHUConnfan]

The big NBC deal ND got is a distant memory. Everyone on this board can see the sport changing at light speed. ND is not must watch TV on Saturday afternoons like it used to be.

I think many CFB fans don't realize that this sport may not exist outside of a few dozen teams in a decade or so.

 

[BugsyCT]

App State takes the plunge

 

[JMick]

They got invited to the Pop-Tarts Bowl vs. BYU in Orlando and declined.

What a bunch of arrogant, entitled, whiny spoiled babies. Let them sit home then.

I was all for it until I learned it was the pop tarts bowl. That's like the best bowl

 

[ScottVib]

So the end result is a normal Sun Belt Eastern Division matchup. (Georgia Southern won this year's contest 25-23)

 

[JMick]

And Bama had by far the worst extra loss of the bunch — FSU who went 4-8 this year and they looked horrible against Georgia and against a 7-5 Auburn team (ironically, they jumped ND after the Auburn game and the committee chair noted a “gutsy” 4th down call as a reason - yes, play calling….)

If Alabama wasn't Alabama they wouldn't be in. They deserved it the least imo.

 

[gopher2]

Starting next year...the MOU also guarantees CFP spot for each P4 conference champion. So if in effect this year...Duke would have bumped James Madison.

So if you're ND, the best way to a nearly guanateed CFP berth is to win the ACC championship every year...unless of course we get into the ACC too. 😃

 

[BRS24]

Interesting that there may not be any repercussions for ND for refusing a bid. Iowa State and Kansas State have been fined $500k by the Big 12 for refusing a bowl bid, but as an independent, ND has no one to answer to, which is shameful.

 

[Chin Diesel]

If Alabama wasn't Alabama they wouldn't be in. They deserved it the least imo.

If ND weren't ND, no one would he carrying their water over being passed over.

 

[How Sway?!]

Student athletes should be students - period. Students who happen to enjoy playing a sport on Sat afternoons to get a little fresh air and exercise. It's gotten way out of control. It's disgraceful.

LMAO ok go watch club sports then

 

[How Sway?!]

Yes, losing two really close games to very good teams really screwed them. If only their losses were to two unranked opponents like Miami's were.

if only there was a data point that we could use to compare the teams. Something like head to head...

 

[gimber]

If ND weren't ND, no one would he carrying their water over being passed over.

what?

 

[pj]

No conspiracy necessary. Yes, Notre Dame had “good” losses, but anyone could have lost those two games. Who did Notre Dame beat? USC? Who next? Bama had an additional loss, but much better best wins. Which is why it’s computer metrics were much higher.

Curious why you think Bama has better computer metrics. On Massey's ratings (Massey Ratings - College Football Rankings), Notre Dame is #7 and Bama #11.

Notre Dame lost to two playoff teams by a total of 4 points, Bama lost to two playoff teams by a total of 23 points plus a non-playoff team by 14. Notre Dame's losses were early in the season, Bama's season finished with a loss.

I get that Bama's SEC schedule was better than Notre Dame's ACC schedule, so they had better wins. But as far as likelihood to win games in the playoff, Notre Dame's profile looks more promising.