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the Q said:
I thought Drummond did?
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the Q said:
Ah, it was the extension. I knew they didn’t do an extension at some point for cap reasons.
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Drummond didn't sign the extension, but then agreed to the identical contract instead of signing the qualifying offer or signing an offer sheet from another team. A lot of rookies now delay signing the extension so it doesn't clog up the team's cap (they can sign later to go over the cap after the team uses their cap space to sign someone from another team).

Lefty2one said:
Did this dude not see what happened to Nerlens Noel and Isaiah Thomas?
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Signing the QO (4.5 million) is legit bonkers. Sure you can hit UFA, but you're losing ~20 million in the year you're on the QO to then basically sign an identical contract, of course with the team of your choice.

It's basically trading $20 million and total lifetime financial stability for your choice of team and incredible risk. He could lose $120+ million if his injury re-occurs (which with ACLs is quite likely).
 
Lefty2one said:
Glad to finally get those details. All in all, this might not be a terrible trade for the Knicks. It could also massively blow up in Dallas's face.
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And a little more detail now. It'll be 2021 as long as Dallas doesn't end up top 5 this year.

In that case, Dallas keeps their 2019 pick, Atlanta gets the 2020 1st and the Knicks would get the 2022 1st (and push the next pick to 2024)
 
auror said:
Signing the QO (4.5 million) is legit bonkers. Sure you can hit UFA, but you're losing ~20 million in the year you're on the QO to then basically sign an identical contract, of course with the team of your choice.

It's basically trading $20 million and total lifetime financial stability for your choice of team and incredible risk. He could lose $120+ million if his injury re-occurs (which with ACLs is quite likely).
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It is absolutely mind-boggling. He can play for one of the most stable/professional franchises in the sport with his buddy Luka for the next five years. What on earth does he want? Is he gonna sign with GSW in summer '20?!
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Why? New York is home and Charlotte is a crummy franchise.

This could be a great move by the Knicks if they can lure in two All Stars. Love KP but the guy misses a ton of games.
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Tough to call Charlotte a crummy franchise in a thread about the Knicks.

He's been pretty vocal about wanting to stay down there. Whether it's BS who knows, but Jordan wants to re-sign him.
 
As much as I love Kemba for what he did for UConn, I want absolutely no part of giving a 29-year-old Kemba 5/$190m. Not to mention that gets ratcheted all the way up to $221m if he makes an All-NBA team this year. The Knicks really need to avoid that temptation.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Why? New York is home and Charlotte is a crummy franchise.

This could be a great move by the Knicks if they can lure in two All Stars. Love KP but the guy misses a ton of games.
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The Knicks most likely weren't luring any All Stars before this, and they certainly aren't now.
 
Lefty2one said:
As much as I love Kemba for what he did for UConn, I want absolutely no part of giving a 29-year-old Kemba 5/$190m. Not to mention that gets ratcheted all the way up to $221m if he makes an All-NBA team this year. The Knicks really need to avoid that temptation.
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Agreed but knowing the Knicks they'll go after him.
 
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superjohn said:
I'm still a fan too but I kind of stopped letting the idiocy bother me. The thing is they are gonna have a ton of cap space and a guaranteed top 3 pick (possibly Zion) and another first rounder from this deal. For any other team I would be talking about the possibility of Durant, Anthony Davis. Zion etc. Dolan has burned me so many times before that I no longer think they're even capable of doing anything that isn't disastrous. I'm with you, I love KP.
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Can they trade picks for a shit st drafting a new owner next year with a GM in 21’?
 
Stainmaster said:
The Knicks most likely weren't luring any All Stars before this, and they certainly aren't now.
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Not true, now an All Star player can bring a buddy with him.

Phil Jackson is long gone which ends the triangle scare, Dolan has stopped meddling and Perry has a good rep as does Fizdale. This move is the opposite of what the Knicks have done in the past, usually they are trading away draft picks for the injury prone, cap clogging "star".
 
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KP wanted out. The Knicks get to unload the last of the Jackson/Mills money in Lee & Hardaway. They get 2 future 1st round picks that they can use as trade chips, They get Dennis Smith to either start at PG or use in a trade. They will have a top 5 pick this year. They are perfectly positioned to go after Durant/Davis/Kyrie. If they land 2 of those 3 it's a great move. If they don't everyone gets fired. If KP stays healthy and signs an extension with the Mavericks it's a great deal for them. If not everyone in Dallas gets fired.

Stay tuned.
 
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UconnFanNVa said:
Meh, people said the same about Joel Embiid. I wasnt ready to throw in the towel. I highly doubt we land 2 max guys and if one of them is AD or Kyrie, you are still talking about dealing with frequently injured players. I'm not sold on dennis smith Jr but we shall see. With any luck he'll be good enough to make sure we end up with a pick outside of the top 3. Such great management we have in NY!
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Landing outside the top (bottom) three is what scares me the most. Petrifies me really.

Imo betting on KP staying healthy is a about the same as betting Knicks land 2 top max guys. Both are far from a sure thing. The guy wanted out. Goodbye.
 


It's going to be rough for Boston when they have no Kyrie or AD and they're paying Horford and Hayward $60m next season.
 
Ewekon said:
Landing outside the top (bottom) three is what scares me the most. Petrifies me really.

Imo betting on KP staying healthy is a about the same as betting Knicks land 2 top max guys. Both are far from a sure thing. The guy wanted out. Goodbye.
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IF KP really wanted out, I'm with you good riddance, but Im not sure so of that. Even if that is true based on this meeting that just happened yesterday, you take all of 1 or 2 hours to make a deal for someone who is as valuable as KP? If that is what really happened, its beyond stupid not to sit on any offer for a few days at least. More likely is that the Knicks had this deal in place for days and when they spoke with KP (perhaps provoking him) they just pulled the trigger... I think this was planned by the Knicks.

Either way what is done is done. At this point you just hope we dont max out 2 guys that arent worthy of the max because we strike out on AD, KD, or Kyrie. And lets continue to hope we dont squander our hopes for finishing with one of the worse 3 records in the league. The Knicks have botched tank seasons in the past, trying to win later in the year. Lets hope for once we can at least be proper losers. If you cant even lose properly, wow... This organization just cant get out of its own way.
 
Stinger92860 said:
Knicks may have assets for Anthony Davis now.
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Couple different places confirmed the Knicks offered KP in a package and the Pelicans turned it down. I'm guessing they wanted more picks and didn't want the risk of KP not signing his extension.

Does Knox, Robinson, 2019 1st, and Dallas's two future firsts get it done?

Trier definitely can't be traded and Dennis Smith Jr is limited to some weird trade/contractual stipulations. I don't believe he can be lumped in a package to make salaries work since he was just acquired. The Pelicans are also reportedly adamant about including Solomon Hill in a deal. His contract isn't terrible; one more year at $12m. Basically what the Knicks just shipped out in Courtney Lee.

The cupboard is pretty bare at that point. Even assuming AD's presence leads to Kyrie...

Kyrie/Frank
Trier/DS Jr
Hill (whoever gave this dude 4/$48m should be banned for life from NBA FOs)
AD
Kornet or someone else.

At least the Knicks would still own all their own future picks after 2019. That team isn't winning the East though. I can't believe I'm going to type this but the Knicks might be better off passing on AD.
 
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Im having dreams of Anthony Davis getting traded to LA (Lonzo included in deal.) Then in free agency Kemba and Klay form a superteam with them.
 


Yeah that doesn't sound good. I can understand the sentiment in a surface level but how can you blame Ainge for that amazing steal? Hayward making more this year than IT has in his career sounds terrible but truthfully IT has been extremely unlucky.
 
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Walker11 said:


Yeah that doesn't sound good. I can understand the sentiment in a surface level but how can you blame Ainge for that amazing steal? Hayward making more this year than IT has in his career sounds terrible but truthfully IT has been extremely unlucky.
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AD's dad should keep his mouth shut. The NBA is a business, and that IT deal was an absolute steal for the Celts. What does he think they would trade AD if they acquired him? There's gotta be something more underneath the surface on this
 
InKembaITrust said:
AD's dad should keep his mouth shut. The NBA is a business, and that IT deal was an absolute steal for the Celts. What does he think they would trade AD if they acquired him? There's gotta be something more underneath the surface on this
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What's going on underneath the surface seems obvious. Him and his camp are signaling that they want to be in LA asap.
 
Lefty2one said:
It's going to be rough for Boston when they have no Kyrie or AD and they're paying Horford and Hayward $60m next season.
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Eh, that was a cherry picked quote. Ironically, the entire interview was about how the media twists things. Here's a bit of context:

 
Walker11 said:
What's going on underneath the surface seems obvious. Him and his camp are signaling that they want to be in LA asap.
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Yep. Celts are in a bit of a dangerous position right now.
 
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