OT: Mayweather vs. McGregor

[NielsisGood]

Dude! He was fighting an amateur! He took 10 rounds to beat a guy fighting his 1st pro fight, and that guy won several rounds on the scorecards.
It's wonderful that you appear to think that the way the fight went last night corroborates your theories on boxing!
Took "the greatest fighter in our generation" 10 rounds to knock out an amateur who had about what? 90 days to learn how to box?
And this, you think, supports your point that FM punches hard?
Right - O.
The only chance CM ever had with 100 days to learn how to fight was the fact that FM is old. That's it. Wasn't enough. Mabye CM could beat FM if FM had another 3 or 4 years on him.
If anything, last night bolstered the MMA-fanboys' argument that the delta between boxers and mma for punching/boxing isn't as great as boxing-fanboys like you think it is.
But if you think this proves anything about FM other than his fighting days are probably over, then that's great. I'll help you celebrate our superiority when we beat Hartford during the first three weeks of the season.

All of this seemed irrelevant to you before the fight. Floyd still walked through and walked down a guy with a 20 lb weight advantage as a 40 year old with a 2 year layoff

 

[MadDogRevival]

All of this seemed irrelevant to you before the fight. Floyd still walked through and walked down a guy with a 20 lb weight advantage as a 40 year old with a 2 year layoff

20 lb weight advantage? Oh my, you are stretching!

 

[noeynox]

20 lb weight advantage? Oh my, you are stretching!

Easily. Floyd cut no weight to step into that scale. McGregor typically enters the cage at about 168lbs after weighing in at 155.

 

[noeynox]

Revealed: Just how much weight Conor McGregor put on between weigh-in and fight

 

[polycom]

ITT a lot of MMA fans who don't realize boxing is not a brawl but a points game. CM was happy the ref stopped it even if he says it was slightly early, there is no reason to take unnecessary brain trauma. Floyd went 10 rounds because Floyd isn't usually a knockout guy during the later part of his career. Floyd understand how the boxing points system works and used it to his advantage through his entire career. He choose to do something different this fight so it looked like CM was in control when really Floyd was letting Connor get tired. The fight really started in the 5th round.... Either way it was a great fight, very entertaining fight to watch, would absolutely watch a rematch. CM is a very rich man and FM can pay his taxes, everyone is happy.

 

[JSM1970]

A great fight? No way. It was entertaining enough, but the fight quality was awful. CM was a joke, he was able to hang around through a combination of Floyd being 40, a defensive fighter and the likelihood this was heavily scripted.

Zero chance I'd spend $100 again to watch CM attempt to box. And there's less chance I'd ever watch a MMA match.

ITT a lot of MMA fans who don't realize boxing is not a brawl but a points game. CM was happy the ref stopped it even if he says it was slightly early, there is no reason to take unnecessary brain trauma. Floyd went 10 rounds because Floyd isn't usually a knockout guy during the later part of his career. Floyd understand how the boxing points system works and used it to his advantage through his entire career. He choose to do something different this fight so it looked like CM was in control when really Floyd was letting Connor get tired. The fight really started in the 5th round.... Either way it was a great fight, very entertaining fight to watch, would absolutely watch a rematch. CM is a very rich man and FM can pay his taxes, everyone is happy.

 

[polycom]

A great fight? No way. It was entertaining enough, but the fight quality was awful. CM was a joke, he was able to hang around through a combination of Floyd being 40, a defensive fighter and the likelihood this was heavily scripted.

Zero chance I'd spend $100 again to watch CM attempt to box. And there's less chance I'd ever watch a MMA match.

That was your mistake that they took your cash. Go to a watch part AKA a casino that has it on every TV in the Casino. I watched the fight in front of a Bacarat table, it was wonderful. Secondly CM did well for the first few rounds but the fight was never in doubt.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

A great fight? No way. It was entertaining enough, but the fight quality was awful. CM was a joke, he was able to hang around through a combination of Floyd being 40, a defensive fighter and the likelihood this was heavily scripted.

Zero chance I'd spend $100 again to watch CM attempt to box. And there's less chance I'd ever watch a MMA match.

The fight was not scripted. Take your tin foil hat off.

 

[noeynox]

The fight was not scripted. Take your tin foil hat off.

Watched it a second time yesterday. Impressed with McGregor's ability to switch stances and fire off hand with his power/ left hand and switch back. Still can't believe how Floyd, the much smaller man, walked down the feared, devastating one punch knockout artist of the UFC. Floyd didn't worry one bit about Conor's power. McGregors footwork was pretty nifty though, till Floyd tired him out with the constant pressure. Connor used to being the hammer, had no idea how to be the nail.

 

[Waquoit]

...Floyd realized he could take a shot (the uppercut in the first round) without being hurt ..

Speaking of bad predictions, how many said that McGregor would never lay a glove on Floyd? An uppercut in the 1st round, no less.

 

[JSM1970]

Big deal honestly

McGregor could barely stand by round 8, he was exhausted. So much for the MMA being this intense sport.

This is part of the conspiracy where Floyd let CM stick around for a few rounds so this wouldn't be a complete joke

UFC farce could be over thankfully. Jones, CM, joke of the female category

Speaking of bad predictions, how many said that McGregor would never lay a glove on Floyd? An uppercut in the 1st round, no less.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

All the experts I saw felt Mayweather was a 100-1 or 50-1 shot to win at least, yet 90% of the betting was coming in on McGregor. I saw the line was at -375 on Mayweather around 10pm Saturday so I put 100 on him and won $26. Easiest return I've ever gotten. wish I could count on human stupidity more often.

 

[superjohn]

A great fight? No way. It was entertaining enough, but the fight quality was awful. CM was a joke, he was able to hang around through a combination of Floyd being 40, a defensive fighter and the likelihood this was heavily scripted.

Zero chance I'd spend $100 again to watch CM attempt to box. And there's less chance I'd ever watch a MMA match.

You paid $100 for that? You're a sucker.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

Watched it a second time yesterday. Impressed with McGregor's ability to switch stances and fire off hand with his power/ left hand and switch back. Still can't believe how Floyd, the much smaller man, walked down the feared, devastating one punch knockout artist of the UFC. Floyd didn't worry one bit about Conor's power. McGregors footwork was pretty nifty though, till Floyd tired him out with the constant pressure. Connor used to being the hammer, had no idea how to be the nail.

Connor's power was there in the beginning. There were a couple body shots early that had a noticeable effect on Floyd. That being said, his conditioning was not even remotely close to that of a pro boxer and very quickly that power completely disappeared. Might as well have been watching Paulie throwing punches by the 6th.

 

[superjohn]

All the experts I saw felt Mayweather was a 100-1 or 50-1 shot to win at least, yet 90% of the betting was coming in on McGregor. I saw the line was at -375 on Mayweather around 10pm Saturday so I put 100 on him and won $26. Easiest return I've ever gotten. wish I could count on human stupidity more often.

Little bets were coming in from McGregor MMA fanboys leading up to the fight, all the professional gamblers/million dollar bets came in for Mayweather the final day.

Yo should have bet a lot more than $100.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

Little bets were coming in from McGregor MMA fanboys leading up to the fight, all the professional gamblers/million dollar bets came in for Mayweather the final day.

Yo should have bet a lot more than $100.

I just bought a house, even the 100 was more than I realistically should have risked, even at such a low risk.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

The dumbest thing I heard leading up to the fight "CM will be the biggest puncher Floyd has ever faced." Totally idiot belief. The fight was never close.

A fighter in his prime has a 2 year layoff, it takes rounds (maybe an entire fight) to shake off the ring rust. A 40 year old who was rusty as hell easily beat a 29 year old MMA Superstar. MMA does not prepare you to be a great boxer, just as boxing doesn't make you an all-around great striker. CM was breathing through his mouth at the end of round 2. Round 2! You will never in your life see a man make $200 million dollars that easily (Bill Gates and other stock billionaires excluded).

 

[QDOG5]

The fight went pretty much as expected. The CM guys will point to the how many rounds the fight went and how many rounds CM won. They will be proud of how he "hung in there". The Floyd guys will point out the fact that he was never in trouble and patiently waited for CM to get tired. CM had a <5% chance of winning and there was a 90% chance that Floyd would win by TKO. It doesn't reveal anything about the two sports. If you preferred MMA or boxing going into the fight you still do today. They are radically different sports and that is why guys rarely try to do both. Floyd is a great fighter but his fights are rarely entertaining and this one wasn't either.

 

[polycom]

The fight went pretty much as expected. The CM guys will point to the how many rounds the fight went and how many rounds CM won. They will be proud of how he "hung in there". The Floyd guys will point out the fact that he was never in trouble and patiently waited for CM to get tired. CM had a <5% chance of winning and there was a 90% chance that Floyd would win by TKO. It doesn't reveal anything about the two sports. If you preferred MMA or boxing going into the fight you still do today. They are radically different sports and that is why guys rarely try to do both. Floyd is a great fighter but his fights are rarely entertaining and this one wasn't either.

I disagree I think it was entertaining if this you bought into the hype, if you came at this fight from a logical perspective then of course it wasn't entertaining... Floyd set it up, was patient then knocked his head around.

 

[JSM1970]

Agree, the loser MMA fan isn't exactly a big player

Not too much left after buying their 10 cases of Red Bull for the week

Little bets were coming in from McGregor MMA fanboys leading up to the fight, all the professional gamblers/million dollar bets came in for Mayweather the final day.

Yo should have bet a lot more than $100.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

Speaking of bad predictions, how many said that McGregor would never lay a glove on Floyd? An uppercut in the 1st round, no less.

That he walked through.

 

[champs99and04]

The fight was not scripted. Take your tin foil hat off.

I wouldn't use the word scripted but I get the sense that both guys had a feel for how they wanted the fight to go and I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd offered to play softball for a few rounds as part of the agreement. As somebody who is far from a boxing expert, my gut tells me that Floyd - even at 40 and even with two years off - could have gotten rid of McGregor faster than that or at the very least dominated him more thoroughly. It's conceivable that Floyd fighting a particular way was a condition of the terms - to meet in the middle a bit stylistically, insofar as that's possible in a cross sport bout. Not only is Floyd not known for fighting that way, but McGregor's best boxing attribute, if I understood the announcers correctly, was his ability to throw counter punches.

I don't think you have to be much of a conspiracy theorist to see some WWE writing on the wall here. Floyd needed the money and it was brilliant marketing by the UFC. I'm not going to pay for their next event, but I'm more interested in the sport and have more respect for McGregor than I did before.

 

[Jerry1714]

I wouldn't use the word scripted but I get the sense that both guys had a feel for how they wanted the fight to go and I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd offered to play softball for a few rounds as part of the agreement. As somebody who is far from a boxing expert, my gut tells me that Floyd - even at 40 and even with two years off - could have gotten rid of McGregor faster than that or at the very least dominated him more thoroughly. It's conceivable that Floyd fighting a particular way was a condition of the terms - to meet in the middle a bit stylistically, insofar as that's possible in a cross sport bout. Not only is Floyd not known for fighting that way, but McGregor's best boxing attribute, if I understood the announcers correctly, was his ability to throw counter punches.

I don't think you have to be much of a conspiracy theorist to see some WWE writing on the wall here. Floyd needed the money and it was brilliant marketing by the UFC. I'm not going to pay for their next event, but I'm more interested in the sport and have more respect for McGregor than I did before.

That is how Floyd fights.

Fight went exactly to plan for Floyd, let McGregor come out strong and tire himself out, and beat him easily once McGregor lost his initial burst. McGregor was never going to out box Floyd, Floyd knew that and McGregor knew that.

McGregor did better than I expected but he still was lightyears behind Floyd.

 

[MadDogRevival]

McGregor did better than I expected but he still was lightyears behind Floyd.

Yes but the gap between Floyd and CM was smaller than most assumed it would be. Father time and all that.

Regarding FM, if he came out and went balls to the wall, he probably could have knocked CM out in the first few rounds. But why do that and expose yourself when he knew he could wear him down? Puncher's chance and all that.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

I wouldn't use the word scripted but I get the sense that both guys had a feel for how they wanted the fight to go and I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd offered to play softball for a few rounds as part of the agreement. As somebody who is far from a boxing expert, my gut tells me that Floyd - even at 40 and even with two years off - could have gotten rid of McGregor faster than that or at the very least dominated him more thoroughly. It's conceivable that Floyd fighting a particular way was a condition of the terms - to meet in the middle a bit stylistically, insofar as that's possible in a cross sport bout. Not only is Floyd not known for fighting that way, but McGregor's best boxing attribute, if I understood the announcers correctly, was his ability to throw counter punches.

I don't think you have to be much of a conspiracy theorist to see some WWE writing on the wall here. Floyd needed the money and it was brilliant marketing by the UFC. I'm not going to pay for their next event, but I'm more interested in the sport and have more respect for McGregor than I did before.

It's exactly how each needed to play it. McGregor needed to go all out and hope he could somehow, with a lot of luck, land a knockout early because there was not a chance that he would outlast Floyd. Floyd knew he could outlast Mcgregor and just needed to avoid getting caught by a big shot early (doubly hard with his funky style). Could Floyd have finished it earlier? I'm sure but was it worth the risk? No.